posted May 15, 2006 08:39 AM              

Besides, she turns 24 next week so the immaturity that irked me before isn't there anymore (I hope).

Also, I can become impatient with lack of communication, excessive games (irony being my question here itself I suppose, but sod it). Can someone describe the typical behaviour of a Gemini who may want you and have wanted you for years but other things have got in the way? I want to be patient and understanding with her and play a long game if nessecary.

I have gone from crush to infatuation to obsession to frienship with this girl and she's still around and aware of all of it. We are very honest with each other and she is showing a kind of "loyalty" to me which is the biggest way to win a Scorpio-driven Piscean heart like mine. She does seem a bit scared of me in a way as well, and in a way that can only be good if you know what I mean. She has also told me that I am her favourite bloke when drunk and proceeded to hang all over me for the rest of the evening. I simply looked after her and let her rest her head on my shoulder in the car when she passed out (which I loved of course).

I suppose I should put our details:

Me:
Sun Pisces 02°32'48 03 direct
Moon Scorpio 28°51'41 01 direct
Mercury Aquarius 06°51'57 02 direct
Venus Aquarius 02°53'51 02 direct
Mars Gemini 20°17'23 07 direct
Jupiter Aries 22°50'42 05 direct
Saturn Cancer 27°05'42 08 retrograde
Uranus Scorpio 07°05'13 11 retrograde
Neptune Sagittarius 13°49'30 01 direct
Pluto Libra 11°18'03 10 retrograde
True Node Scorpio 15°36'41 12 direct

House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Scorpio 26°41'25
2nd House Sagittarius 28°47'39
3rd House Aquarius 10°25'56
Imum Coeli Pisces 19°55'41
5th House Aries 19°03'05
6th House Taurus 10°08'30
Descendant Taurus 26°41'25
8th House Gemini 28°47'39
9th House Leo 10°25'56
Medium Coeli Virgo 19°55'41
11th House Libra 19°03'05
12th House Scorpio 10°08'30

Major aspects
Sun Square Moon 3°41
Sun Trine Uranus 4°32
Sun Square Ascendant 5°51
Moon Sextile Venus 4°02
Moon Trine Saturn 1°46
Moon Conjunction Ascendant 2°10
Mercury Conjunction Venus 3°58
Mercury Square Uranus 0°13
Mercury Trine Pluto 4°26
Venus Opposition Saturn 5°48
Venus Square Uranus 4°11
Mars Sextile Jupiter 2°33
Jupiter Square Saturn 4°15
Saturn Trine Ascendant 0°24
Neptune Sextile Pluto 2°31

Her: (don't have her birth-time, but think its around mid-day so only put this info)
Sun Gemini 01°01'37 10 direct
Moon Taurus 20°40'28 10 direct
Mercury Gemini 15°06'15 10 retrograde
Venus Aries 20°18'07 09 direct
Mars Libra 01°04'19 02 direct
Jupiter Scorpio 02°20'14 03 retrograde
Saturn Libra 16°05'22 03 retrograde
Uranus Sagittarius 02°41'28 04 retrograde
Neptune Sagittarius 26°20'04 05 retrograde
Pluto Libra 24°36'13 03 retrograde
True Node Cancer 14°03'33 11 retrograde

Advice please. From the head to the bed.

Thanks,

posted May 15, 2006 12:56 PM              

What you say rings true. Its all about timing though and it isn't right for me to make that move. I'm just getting prepared for when it is, or take it slowly...

Thats very good advice though. Thanks!

posted May 15, 2006 01:03 PM            

Just one thing that I wanted to pass on without even looking at her stats.....
A good friend of mine is a Gemini lady, and for the evolved ones, mental/intellectual intercourse is AS IMPORTANT AS physical contact -- for us Airy signs (and Ms Gem has 5 planets in Air as do I), mental rapport is SOOOOOOOOOO exciting!!!!!

.....but I don't think you'll have any issues in either area

Kinda wish Secret Garden was still around with her incomparable advice

posted May 15, 2006 01:10 PM              

Things to avoid – I pushed too hard, for making the relationship work by overcoming the hurdles that we had, however it didn’t work. So when angry/frustrated of her/situation, always think what you speak with her, as that might be used against you for rationalizing the break up.
(For me, in the end it turned in big hurt as I couldn’t rationalize the situation .. thoughts like “I shouldn’t have said such n such things which caused her to go in her shell and change her decision” though it might be more of her fault of committing first and then backing off at the end … Again my Gem might have different difficult circumstances so can’t generalize to all, however always be on lookout as we are an emotional sign and our hurt goes deep down, Gems are not … Water signs should never expect something very high/dreamy in relationships with Air/fire signs as if expectations don’t come true it hurts and if they come true without expecting that is much better)
Know the catch points and avoid them, or deal with them after giving lot of thought in a cool manner.

Key things which I think could be useful –
Never know when Gem might turn around their mind, so look for something which bonds you two forever (if you don’t want to loose her) – sex (one of the factors), marriage (next step).
Even if she says no, her other mind might be for Yes. So understand what she wants/says and what she doesn’t. Probably reading her mind is more important than her words.
Give space when ever she requires (We might be possessive ones and always forget Gem is air sign and require free space)
Communication another key (verbal face-to-face, phone or mail) .. intimate (Pisces) ones would do, intellectual (Gemini) ones are better … Get her a personal cell if she doesn’t have one and be in touch (I couldn’t do that )
Be creative wherever you can .. Give small gifts, give something made by your hand (though one may not be creative, if she likes you she would surely love whatever it is), try imitating her or someone else in a funny manner.. Have loads of fun…understand her jokes and pranks (probably intellectual ones)

Wow .. so cute “I simply looked after her and let her rest her head on my shoulder in the car when she passed out (which I loved of course).” Good luck, keep your Gem shining bright with glee.

posted May 15, 2006 03:05 PM              

Ask her straight out. Write her a note if you feel to shy. Tell her you like her and want to be more than friends. Ask her to be your girlfriend.

Screw it. Just get to the point. I turn 24 next month also

I love to talk alot. It's unstoppable.
Has she shown romantic interest in you though?

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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

-I took a walk around the world to ease my troubled mind. I left my body lying somewhere in the sands of time. But I watched the world float to the dark side of the moon. I feel there's nothing I can do.

posted May 15, 2006 03:22 PM              

Sci-Fi topics and politics turn me on.

Has she ever shown jealousy?

posted May 15, 2006 06:34 PM              

Communication is key, lots and lots. Emails, letters written in your own script, movie going, book-talking, and well a brief whisper in the ear about something unique, odd, erudite, interesting....while trailing your hand gently up her back....

Oh well; it's official, Swerve. I just seduced myself.

posted May 16, 2006 04:34 AM              

Sorry I took so long to reply, I'm on GMT!

The mental rapport is definitely there. We seem to calm each other down from my intensity and her exuberance when we talk. Its like we are the only 2 on that particular wavelength (though I have this with pretty much all Geminis in truth).

We are so coy with each other though in terms of flirting. Unless one of us is drunk and bumps into the other one and then said inebraited one suddenly opens up in a dramatic fashion.

Its almost embarrasing the way we have danced around each other for the last 4 years.

Mystic - yes, she got jealous when she knew I had a g/f a couple of years ago and another time when I was chatting to her friend all night. I like it when she seems a bit possesive. Call me curious.

Also guys, can you tell me what NOT to do, probably more important in the long run.

posted May 16, 2006 10:05 AM              

-Flirt with other s%$#s.

-Hang around females all the time.

-Put her down or hurt her feelings.

-Interrupt her when she's talking.

-Be boring.

-Be afraid to show your intensity and express your feelings.

Although a little jealousy is kind of exciting

-If you see her talking with a male friend do not think she is flirting. Gems love to talk to different people. Sometimes people will think we are flirting when we aren't.

-Ignore her when she needs attention.

-Do not lie and cheat. (BIG NO NO)

-Go out and party all the time.

A woman with a Gemini sun and Taurus moon is very concerned with security.

They want love.

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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

-I took a walk around the world to ease my troubled mind. I left my body lying somewhere in the sands of time. But I watched the world float to the dark side of the moon. I feel there's nothing I can do.

posted May 16, 2006 10:47 AM              

Well, she is, but I'm not letting that cat out of the bag! Made that mistake a thousand times before.

I think we are scared of each other. Its the way a lot of my relationships start. Never sure why. Might be the intensity.

She's a funny one though sometimes. She'll not respond to an e-mail or text for days and then POW out of nowhere. I used to think she was playing games but now I know better.

Also, she knows my moods. I got the hump with her last Summer and said balls to it I won't bother with you again. Then of course a month later I did. She just said "I was expecting you to get in touch in about a week". She knows me too well it seems. We've fallen out and fallen in more times than I can remember, but it always goes back to normal very quickly. We seem to find it VERY easy to forgive each other, which is nice, and TOTALLY different to the ex-Crab who I reckon has written me off for life! Her loss....

Swerve

posted May 17, 2006 09:15 AM              

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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

-I took a walk around the world to ease my troubled mind. I left my body lying somewhere in the sands of time. But I watched the world float to the dark side of the moon. I feel there's nothing I can do.

posted May 17, 2006 06:00 PM              

If you are to scared to say it in person then say it on the phone. If you are to scared to say it on the phone then write her a letter or note.

Tell her.

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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

-I took a walk around the world to ease my troubled mind. I left my body lying somewhere in the sands of time. But I watched the world float to the dark side of the moon. I feel there's nothing I can do.

posted May 17, 2006 06:04 PM              

This is my chart

posted May 18, 2006 04:18 AM              

Both of our birthdays add up to no.11.

I don't think she's my Twin, by the definitions I see here. But she is definitely a soul mate. I just wonder if that lesson has already been learned.

I have a terrible habit of holding on to things way past their sell-by date.

Has she shown romantic interest lately? No. I haven't physically seen her since last year. But the texts always come out of the blue if I don't contact her for a while. She is doing that much more often these days as well.

Also, I sent her an e-mail telling her exactly how I felt about her a few months back, for probably the first time out on the table. She went quiet like she does. So I asked her if that had upset her and she said no it was cool and she liked it but that she was seeing someone and she really liked him. I said that I hoped they were having a great time and it lasted for a long time because if she's happy I'm happy. I meant that too.

But, she got in touch a lot more often after that so that can only be good.

I have this way of making girls wary of me and I'm not sure why. So, I'm taking this slow, I just want to bone up on how to get to her.

The one thing I have to say is that she isn't intellectual at all.
She is excitable, very easily bored and somewhat flakey in that absent-minded short attention-span way. But intellectual...no.

posted May 18, 2006 06:08 AM              

Just something small. I know this can sometimes be inappropriate or would a girl always like to receive these things without judging the guy as a sap. It is a harsh world out there for boys and girls at the moment and romance can be misconstrued with so many conflicting messages.

Any pointers?