posted June 01, 2006 04:31 PM              

I will be having saturn square venus beginning in September and lasting until June 2007.

Their description wasn't anything to be desired. A little scary actually.

Can anyone who has been through this tell me anything about their experience?

Possibly give a different spin on it? (not so doomed view... if there is one)

Thanks in advance.

posted June 02, 2006 12:55 PM            

I found this article on Saturn/Venus... lots of threads on it in the natal, synastry and transits as of late.. I have the conjunction coming up myself ...

Thought it was a little more positive than most stuff I've read

"Saturn was called "the Greater Malefic" in traditional astrology. This name conjures up the darkness with which this planet has been associated. Doubts, fears, blockages, falls and failures were among its attributes. Time (a Saturn concept), however, has brought some new ideas on the subject. (Liz Greene's brilliant book Saturn, A New Look at an Old Devil [Samuel Weiser,1976] was a formidable step in the direction of modernizing our understanding of this planet.)

Saturn, we might say, is the planet that says "No" but means "Yes." It says no because its transits and natal chart position indicate where we encounter limits. The easy flow of energy is inhibited and functions are restricted. But, it means yes because it shows us where and how to build. For example, Saturn in the 2nd house can indicate difficulties with money or self-worth issues. However, with commitment, focus and patience (all Saturn keywords) someone with Saturn in the 2nd can construct a solid financial foundation. Saturn in Aries could indicate resistance to taking independent action. The instruction, though, is to develop methods that ensure one's ability to be a pioneer. Simply said, Saturn shows where the work is.

Saturn square Venus in a natal chart often indicates difficulties in relationships. This is because the flow of love and approval (Venus) was restricted during childhood. This may be due to a lack of recognition, discomfort with emotional expression by the parents or approval that was highly conditional. Saturn often implies that conditions or rules govern a particular activity. This may be challenging when a difficult aspect (conjunction, square, opposition, quincunx, semi or sesqui-square) in involved. But, Saturn square Venus doesn't mean a life without love. It means that love must be earned with accountability and careful attention to the relationship process. The no becomes a yes when we develop rules that work for us.

Saturn, also known as Chronos, is about time. Time provides a limiting framework, but such limitations are necessary to life. Without the boundaries of time, space and identity we can not exist as individuals. Saturn is about the separation process that makes life possible. It provides the necessary form for anything to come into manifestation, but also separates it from its source. Saturn, then, is the Fall, the separation of matter from spirit. Guilt can be a result of this "fall." This is about being born a sinner, one who is separate from God or Spirit. The game of life, though, is to infuse matter with Spirit, to replace guilt with responsible action.

Saturn challenges in the natal chart are often about learning to use time appropriately. It's not "never" but "at the right moment." The penalties imposed by Saturn are reminders to learn the rules, or to create a more appropriate set of rules. The key is attention. If you can clearly see the patterns you can change them, or change yourself to transform pain into productivity. Saturn transits are moments of crystallization. They are times when patterns are formed and fixed. Undergoing a difficult Saturn transit requires action appropriate to the symbols involved. If, as is often the case, the transit occurs three times, the first passage defines the problem. The last transit shows the outcome. What you do in between helps determine this outcome.

Saturn, like age, shows the effects of time. It measures our successes and failures. In fact, a useful practice during a Saturn transit is to acknowledge all of your accomplishments. Each of us has achieved innumerable successes in life. Learning to walk, to talk, to tie your shoes and drive a car may seem trivial now, but are part of Saturn's resume. Too often we are reminded of our failures, crystallizing them, ensuring their continuity, rather than taking note of what we have achieved.

Saturn, ruler of cardinal Capricorn and exalted in cardinal Libra, can be bold. It can be the architect's plan made manifest, just as it is Spirit incarnated. Just as commitment and patience are its tools, compassion and caring are its antidotes. If life becomes too hard and brittle, Saturn needs to be balanced by the Moon. Inner needs, even irrational ones, require response. Take comfort in those personal activities that warm you so that you've the nourishment to take on the world that Saturn presents.

Trust is another essential quality of Saturn. In synastry (comparing two charts to evaluate a relationship) difficult Saturn contacts respond well to trust. This is not blind faith (that's Neptune), but confidence earned over time. If your Saturn is on my Venus trust can allow me to open to you. It doesn't come easily, but when it does you can provide me with clarity and order to achieve love in my life. Without it there is likely to be only fear.

When you've done good Saturn work (the natal house showing where, the natal sign showing how) the results are palpable. Opportunity (Jupiter) takes root, inspiration flourishes and intimacy is made possible. Saturn is not the enemy, but rather a force, an archetype if you like. It is the skeleton that supports us, the skin that contains us and the time and place that make life possible. It is only when Saturn is separated from the rest of us that it becomes a deadening force. Bathed by the Moon, warmed by Sun, sweetened by Venus and energized by Mars, it becomes a precious ally for life."

posted June 02, 2006 02:40 PM              

I have Venus in Pisces. I had been through transiting Saturn in Gemini squaring this natal position in 2002-2003.

From what I remember, I became really, really introverted. Some things happened with the people I was close to and it hurt a lot. I was put into the driver's seat of being the responsible adult. But I got through it and I made a few really good friends. They are close bonds of quality. The effects from that period of time feel permanent, at least for now.

posted June 04, 2006 09:20 PM              

I've heard that, too -- that it could indicate a relationship where there is a significant age difference. I've also heard that it could mean a new or existing relationship will turn serious.

posted June 05, 2006 03:24 PM            

The Saturn transits are always difficult, but always beneficial if you learn how to deal with them properly.

posted June 09, 2006 02:03 PM            

Transiting Saturn is touching 4 of my personal planets at the moment actually and it SUCKS.

Saturn/Venus square has made me realllly grow up in relationships. And not just romantic relations, every relationship!

My romantic relationship has really been challenged. There's been times when we "almost" broke up, want to get married, almost broke up, want to get married....like every other day but Saturn challenges us to find some kind of stability. And it's helped us grow as a couple, significantly.

then again, Saturn contacting all my planets basically tells me to "wake the **** up" and stop acting like a kid an I have.

posted January 31, 2015 10:00 PM            

it will square my Venus a few days after valentines day. But I am already feeling it.

posted February 02, 2015 05:46 PM            

I'm going through Saturn transiting opposite natal Venus in the 4th/5th year of my marriage. My wife went through Saturn transiting square her natal Venus the first year or so of our relationship. Our relationship is still on great terms and we are moving forward.

Saturn has a cutting action (sickle, harvest) and can sometimes cut relationships, pleasure, etc, down to their minimum -- like a pruning. But pruning may be periodically necessary. Things will grow back.

posted February 24, 2015 09:36 PM            

I've made it through Saturn oppose my Sun with him, and Saturn oppose my Mercury. But not this.

posted June 18, 2015 04:12 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Seimei:
that sounds very fatalistic, you expected
and you got what you expected.

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