posted August 01, 2006 03:25 AM            

If you want the intensity of Pluto with somebody. Then look at 8th house placements. Those can be intense,sexual,psychological,deep,regenerating
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also 8th house placements and Pluto aspects in the composite. I am not the crazy about the hard aspects involving Pluto.

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for the one that said that she had sun conjunct moon with a guy, and she felt down when he was down. I wouldn't attribute that to sun conjunct moon.

That seems like a boundary issue. You should check Neptune aspects in natal,synastry,and composite. Any strong water stuff in natal chart.

posted August 01, 2006 05:09 AM              

I don't think Mars/Venus negatives do much harm if there are positive Sun/Moon and Moon/Moon connections.. and likewise Mars/Venus positives don't always work long term if links at a Sun/Moon level are not present.

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How is sexual tension good?

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posted August 01, 2006 08:36 AM              

Venus and or Moon in aspect to Pluto
Venus conjucnt Neptune
Mars conjunt Venus

From what I've seen the conjuntion in general implies an a more instant attraction whereas the the sextile and trine are a bit tamer.

Mars and Venus in the 8th house seem to make lust at first sight which I think many people confuse for love at first sight. I think Pluto might do the same thing as well... if not becoming even more powerful.

And about the whole Pluto generational thing... I'm a bit confused about what your trying to say. As I understand it there is no way a whole generation of people can have Pluto/Venus connection, venus would only hit Pluto once a year, just like venus would only hit some one's sun once a year. And if you are going to denounce the validity of slow moving outer planets in synastry you must do so in natal charts as well.
(a pluto ,personal planet connection has more effect on the person with sun,moon,venus in conjuction with the pluto person; the pluto person does not necessarily have those same feelings.)
.....um one last thought the pluto venus connection by it self does not give love at first sight there must be supporting indicators that provide a basis for love or at least attraction. I mean your not going to have love at first sight from two charts that have minimal compatibility but have venus/pluto

I can't really convey tone in writing so if the post sounds a bit pissish I'm not, just speaking my mind totally with out Pi$$ .

posted August 01, 2006 10:38 AM            

My Sun,Mercury,and Venus in Scorpio are in my gal's 8th house. Her Sun,Mercury,and Mars in Aries are in my 8th house.
There is definitely strong,deep,intense,transformational connection. She helped me see things that I didn't want to see inside myself like my anger towards psychiatry for my psychiatric misdiagnoses and not understanding my learning disabilities,my anger towards my mom,and my post traumatic symptoms from when I was with my mom when I was shot. She helped me realize my wanting to be an activist for learning disabled people was more out of an anger and revenge. She helped me realize that I have been totally angry,resentful,and that prevent me in from having a good relationship. She inspired me to let go of the past,forgive my mother for her physical/verbal abuse,and the psychiatrists for misdiagnosing my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia as psychotic,bipolar disorders. She helped me realize that I don't have to be so open to prove how honest I am and that I just be myself. She inspired me to make some changes in my life like my taking cod liver oil that has helped my brain function better and greatly improve my emotional nature that I don't feel easily stressed,depressed,nor anxious. I definitely have powerful,strong,intense feelings for her that are spiritual and sexual. That's how her planets in 8th house has influenced me. I helped by giving her astrology readings and sent her useful Astrology info. She told me that I helped her a lot. It was mainly psychological Astrology stuff because I am mainly a psychological type Astrologer. She definitely has powerful,strong,intense feelings for me that are spiritual and sexual too. She has a bachelor's degree in Psychology,and she has interest in learning Astrology. She is also into tarot. Of course, I am an amateur astrologer that has done readings for others since 1999,and I like Tarot and Numerology. I also read a lot about Psychology/Psychiatry...especially when it comes to learning disabilities,special educational stuff, but I never went to college myself. It's just not my thing because I don't have the attention span and just don't care for traditional educational institutions. With my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia, I have an alternative learning/thinking style. Any ways..she and I do share interest in psychology and occult in common.

Our feelings for each other very intense,powerful,passionate but we care about each other a great deal. She and I profoundly affect each other. That's definitely not lust. My Scorpio Sun conjuncts her Scorpio Moon-Saturn conjunction,and my Pisces Moon trines that. In our composite chart, we have Sun,Mercury, and Venus in 8th which is trine Pluto in 5th which sextiles Neptune-Descendant conjunction and trine Ascendant. Another thing to is that her Sun conjuncts my Chiron in 8th and she did help bring my 8th wounds to light and helped me.
Her 8th house ruler Mars in Aries sextiles my 8th house ruler Mars in Aquarius. My Sun oppose her Venus/Mars,her Sun square my Venus/Mars,my Mars conjunct her Venus/Uranus,and my Mars oppose her Venus/Pluto are midpoint configurations that indicate sexual attraction too. Her Pisces Ascendant oppose my Virgo Ascendant with only 16 minutes of arc and her Venus in Taurus trine my Ascendant with 3 minutes of arc are indicators of strong attraction.

She and I have very strong psychic house synastry overall, and that indicate very profound,intense,emotional emotional tie. My Moon and Mars are in her 12th house, and her stationary Jupiter is in my 3rd 19 minutes conjunct my IC and my IC ruler,Jupiter and her stationary Neptune is in my 4th house.

This is from Stephen Arroyo's book, RELATIONSHIP AND LIFE CYCLES

8TH HOUSE:

Planets fallin my eighth house stimulate deep,often sexual and erotic,powerful feelings in me. If the planets are stressfully aspected, there may be a power struggle; and I may find my efforts to exert power and control over the other person disrupted or thwarted. This house in part represents my emotional search for values,which effort on my part can be helped or hindered by the other person. The eighth house also represent a test of my responsibility in the use of my power. Planets falling in this house can also have the effect of producing some type of spiritual awakening in me, as well as a powerful yearning for emotional peace and healing at a deep level.

PSYCHIC HOUSES

posted August 01, 2006 11:35 AM            

Venus in 8th

Frequently found in business partnerships and corporate relationships,this comparative combination often indicates financial gain through marriage or business associations for one or both parties. Legacies and inheritances can often influence the relationship and can mean financial gain for one or both natives. In marriage, financial considerations are sometimes a significant motivation. If Venus is afflicted, this can stand in the way of genuine love relationship. This combination can produce a strong sexual attraction and resultant passionate emotions. There can be strong emotional ties based on a psychic,intuitive, link between the natives.

The Venus individual can help the Eighth House individual exercise diplomacy in business affairs, and the Eighth house individual can help the Venus individual gain the financial support necessary for artistic and social expressions.

If Venus is afflicted, jealousy and possesssiveness can become a serious problem in the relationship. If Venus is well-aspected, this can be a favorable influence for businesses related to art,music, entertainment,luxury items,banking,taxes,insurance,and financial investments.

Mars in 8th

This comparative combination often produces dynamic business,corporate,scientific,or occult relationships.

The natives are apt to be mutually involved in corporate affairs related to insurance,tax accounting,engineering,construction,or scientific research. In many cases, such dealings involve secrecy. The natives may be involved in military strategy,secret investigation,police work,or occult investigation. If Mars is afflicted, plotting and intrigue can be part of the relationship. The natives can expose each other to danger; in extreme cases, this could result in death for one or both. This is a dynamic combination because of the natural Scorpio connotation of the Eighth house. The natives will encourage each other in efforts at self-regeneration and improvement. They will tend to to strengthen each other's determination and resolve to "do and dare" and to follow through on projects and purposes.

posted August 01, 2006 11:47 AM            

I don't see how you leap to the conclusion that we should get rid of generational aspects in natal if we get rid of them in synastry.

Natal aspects are personal aspects. This has nothing to do with the other person.

That's a totally different situation.

Many astrologers use tight orbs for synastry aspects involving Pluto like no more than 1 degree. When it comes to natal aspects,they use up to 8 degrees.

Just like natal generational planets in houses are personal placements unlike natal generational planets in signs.

posted August 01, 2006 12:29 PM            

my former roommate/landlord's Neptune conjunct my Venus, and there was no love between him and me. He's homosexual and I am heterosexual. He and I both have Virgo Ascendant and Pisces Moon aspecting Neptune in 3rd.

posted August 01, 2006 07:45 PM            

My moon trines my gal's moon.

posted August 01, 2006 07:48 PM              

I see a lot of sun opposite his or her moon, or moon opposite his or her ascendant.

one couple I know who are very happy
His moon is opposite her ascendant and square her venus. His sun and venus opposite her moon.

posted August 02, 2006 03:48 AM              

MY Sun trine HIS Moon
HIS Moon biquintile MY Moon
MY Sun sextile HIS Venus
HIS Sun square MY Mars
MY Sun conjunct HIS Uranus
HIS Sun conjunct MY Neptune
HIS Sun sextile MY Pluto
HIS Sun trine MY Sappho
HIS Sun square MY Sun/Moon MP
MY Moon opposite HIS Venus
HIS Moon biquintile MY Pluto
HIS Moon conjunct MY Ascendant
MY Moon opposite HIS Sun/Moon MP
HIS Moon opposite MY Sun/Moon MP
MY Venus trine HIS Venus by sign
HIS Venus trine MY Mars
HIS Venus sextile MY Uranus
MY Venus sextile HIS Neptune
HIS Venus square MY Pluto
MY Venus conjunct HIS Pluto
HIS Venus trine MY Chiron
HIS Venus trine MY Eros
MY Venus trine HIS Sappho
HIS Venus conjunct MY Cupido
MY Venus trine HIS Ascendant
HIS Mars square MY Uranus
HIS Jupiter conjunct MY Valentine
HIS Ascendant conjunct MY N. Node

posted August 02, 2006 09:34 AM              

Our moons are also trined, and our venuses are trined. My moon and venus both conjunct his ascendant, my sun sextiles his moon, his moon sextiles my mercury, my venus conjuncts his pluto, my moon conjuncts his pluto, etc... so there was definitely an emotional connection from the start.