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CrankyCap
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posted July 24, 2006 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone give me a little more info about the midheaven? Everything I've read is very vague, and I can't quite figure out what its signifigance is. How does it effect us? Does it have to do with something WE project or something we look for in others? My MC is in Aries, and it's really the only Aries influence in my entire chart. For years I've attracted many close Aries friends and they've been some of the deepest bonds I've had. I'm wondering if my MC has something to do with it?

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AcousticGod
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posted July 24, 2006 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MC is your Midheaven. It dictates things concerning your career choices, so you're likely to take an Arien profession.

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CrankyCap
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posted July 24, 2006 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, that's just one of the things I've heard about it. I've also read that it can influence the person as far as an Aries MC making you more adventurous, a Gemini MC making you more fickle, a Scorp MC making you more dark/brooing etc. I've also heard that it doesn't really influence the person at all, but the qualities of the MC sign are found to be admirable in other people. Which would mean that although I myself have no Aries characteristics, I look for and admire the Aries characteristics in others. Needless to say, all of these differing interpretations have confused me.

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Peri
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posted July 24, 2006 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Rev. Alice
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posted July 24, 2006 08:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The midheaven, itself, is the goal of your chart, and by sign, says something about how you define success.

It is also your "public image" opposite the "private image" at the IC. In public you give an Aries-type impression--perhaps assertive, independant, a survivor, energetic, etc.

As a goal, think survivor first, pioneer second and, if you are spiritually inclined your ultimate goal may be to seed new ideas into the general consciousness (Seed Being).

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GeminiLover75
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posted July 25, 2006 05:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a question about the MC... in a few people's charts I have, when I change the house system from placidus to equal houses, the midheaven shifts so that it is no longer on the cusp on the 10th house but in another house instead. But it doesn't do this for everyone. What's going on here, is it something bad??

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wilsontc
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posted July 25, 2006 07:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini,

The equal house system does not necessarily associate the edge of the 10th house with the Midheaven so the position of the Midheaven "floats" in the chart, similar to the way the positions of the Nodes float in the chart.

Midling,

Tim

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GeminiLover75
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posted July 25, 2006 07:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see... so then, if it isn't associated with the 10th house anymore when using equal houses, is it still associated with career or is it then associated with the house that it now falls in? And if it is in two different places in the different systems, then which one takes precedence?

Just as a side note, I and others whose midheaven shifts in the equal house chart, are located at extreme south latitudes. But not everyone at this latitude has a shift in midheaven... ???

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wilsontc
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posted July 26, 2006 11:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini,

The Midheaven still means the same, all that is different is where it is placed. So career interpretations of the Midheaven can still be used, it's just that the house the Midheaven is in will also have to be considered in any Midheaven interpretation.

As to which house system to use, that is up to you! Try the Placidus system, Koch system, Equal house system, Regiomantus, Topocentric and any other system you want and see how well these charting systems describe others.

The placement of the Midheaven in an equal house chart depends on the location of the person whose chart it is.

And, by the way, to make things more confusing, there are at least three kinds of equal house charting systems:
1. all house cusps equal the degrees of the Ascendant
2. all house cusps equal zero degrees (called a "whole sign" chart)
3. All house cusps equal the degree of the Midheaven

As for me, I am sticking to Placidus because it seems to work (although there are questions about its usefulness at the extreme northern or southern latitudes)...and I am too lazy to try all those other astrological systems!

Taking it and making it easy,

Tim

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cristiname
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posted July 27, 2006 06:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cristiname     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
regardless of house system, the Asc and the MC are fixed because they reflect the place (Asc) and the time (MC) of birth. The other houses move/change according to the different mathematical &astrological theories behind.

The MC usually represents 'the father' and the profession (because for thousands of years one person would always follow in the footsteps of father in terms of profession). It also signifies social status (again, it was the father's family and name that defined someone's place and value within a specific society).

some people say it is the point of max awareness - probably in view of the fact that your social stautus represent one's 'visibility'.

Along with the Asc, the MC is a very imp point in a chart. It is very sensitive to transits and Solar arcs, and any planets there become very important.

of course, you can elaborate from these.
In contemporary terms, it is no longer the father, but the parent who represented authority for the child. (the IC being the protective, nurturing parent). thus you can elaborate in terms of parental influence and ambition.

noel tyl elaborated an 'extension process' to establish professional vocation following the MC in its sin-> ruler, aspects, and rulerships. Tyl pointed out that the alst century brought forward the ideea of going beyond one's origin - moving up in the world. centuries ago, your father and is profession defined strictly your univers (how far you could dare to reach).

now - the american dream - everyone can aspire to become anything. Tyl proposed Pluto (a modern planet/concept as 'self-empowerment') in its aspects/rulership/etc to MC as being a sign of one's ability / ambition to extricate oneself form the original social situation and rise up in the world. (more precisely, Pluto in rel to MC, Sun and Moon, and Saturn; plz notice that Pluto-Saturn also means destruction, death; so guess it implys the great risks one takes to achieve greatly).

that's about all i can think of for now.

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