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Bucketrider
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posted August 21, 2006 06:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ive been reading stuff by the magi society and they have some odd ideas on soulmates and romantic longevity. They view parallel/contra-parallel as largely positive aspects. Anyone here experienced these aspects? Any synastry interpretations on it anywhere?

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posted August 21, 2006 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes they are. They are hidden aspects

Declinations are the latitude coordinates involving the celestial equator.

Parallel is when points are on the same side of the celestial equator and they are in orb.
Parallels are like conjunctions

Contraparallel is when points are on opposite of each other they are in orb
Contraparallals are like oppositions

I always look at declinations. This was before I even knew about Magi Astrology.

the zodiac sign placements are actually the longitude coordinations involving the ecliptic.

I find that parallels and contraparalls are way underrated and overlooked in Astrology.


Declination midpoints are useful too. They have been used in Cosmobiology and Uranian Astrology


There are no cookbook interps on parallels,contraparallels.

All you have to do is check out interps on conjunctions,oppositions

In a declination longitude equivalent chart, parallels in a regular chart often appear as conjunctions and contraparallels often appear as oppositions.

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posted August 22, 2006 02:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have opinion on Magi astrology but yes, parallel/contra-parallel seem to be working.

For me they are like hiddn fusion of energies that are not obvious part of persoality but play big part in a person's motivations. (If that makes any sense )

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Bucketrider
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posted August 23, 2006 03:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the responses.

Ive analyzed a couple of dozen charts of people I know with the declinations and there does seem to be something to it but I dont think a parallel is as strong as a conjunction and contra-parallel an opposition. Its def more subtle than that but there is some energy linkage. For instance, this woman I know has a strong sun conjunct venus quality to her. She is beautiful and has a venusian charm but her sun is in virgo and venus is in leo. However, I discovered that her sun and venus are exactly parallel. In other instances parallels had less bearing. I guess as always, the tighter the orb the stronger the aspect. Still Im not convinced parallel=conjunction.

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posted August 23, 2006 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have studied Magi Astrology, and I am not too impressed with the parallel/contra-parallel system. These aspects are somewhat meaningful, but I would never evaluate a relationship based on these aspects alone, whereas I feel pretty confident using more conventional aspects such as conjunction/trine/opposition/squares etc.

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posted August 24, 2006 03:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting take Belage, thank you. I've gone through Magi, but it always leaves you feeling like you want to know more. I'm open to its possibilities.

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posted August 25, 2006 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

It really depends on the orb of the aspects.
an almost exact parallel or contraparallel can be a lot stronger than a wide orbed conjunction/opposition. I feel that they can be important in synastry. I feel that if you don't look at the declinations in synastry and composite,you can be missing out on important info. There could be a Venus contraparallel Saturn with 10 minutes of arc that could actually indicate the relationship is more challenging. You might overlook a person's Venus parallel your Mars which could be a strong sexual attraction. Also...natal is important. If you want a secure,stable long term relationship with somebody, a person with Venus contraparallel Uranus with 15 minutes of arc might not be good for you.

Also you should check the declination longitude equivalent chart to see if they are actually in conjunction and opposition.

I have Mercury,Venus,and Neptune parallel each other and Saturn contraparallels them.


In my declination longitude equivalent chart, I have Mercury,Venus,and Neptune conjunct each other and Saturn opposes them.

I feel that the declinations should be looked at. They sky isn't one dimensional,and so I don't believe the chart should be look at that way either. I feel that you take in consideration the other coordinates and not just the longitude ecliptic coordinates. I guess being Dyslexic,I am multidimensional thinker any way. Therefore,I view the chart as multidimensional.

http://www.declination.org/history.htm
http://karma.astrology.com/declinations.html
http://www.jornal-astrologia.com/article_denlinger.htm
http://www.solsticepoint.com/decline.html
http://www.solsticepoint.com/1declination.htm
http://www.lunarliving.org/calendars/declinations.php
http://www.cafeastrology.com/declinations.html
http://groups.msn.com/HOROSCOPESCHAT/aspects3.msnw

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posted June 25, 2011 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for joyrjw     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you find the parallels/Contra parallels in synastry? Do you just compare declinations from birth chart to birth chart?

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posted June 26, 2011 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alma Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Clairvision can find 'em for you. http://astrology.clairvision.org/astro/switchboard

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posted March 24, 2015 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry for bringing up a old topic.

But can someone explain this to me like i'm a 6 year old?

What exactly is a parallel or a contraparallel? Can someone give me an example?

Thank you! I'm just having difficulty understanding these aspects

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posted March 25, 2015 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You might want to start a new thread and ask in Astrology 2.0 instead.

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posted March 29, 2015 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wish I could help.

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posted March 29, 2015 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReadingTheStars95     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Definitely significant.. At least, they are in my chart.

I have Saturn parallel my ascendant. Supposedly an aspect showing a tiny frame or someone that grows at slower rates than most people do. Or well.. Just Saturn based influences on the body.. I think the influence isn't too hard to understand

Even as a male.. At 5 foot 8, I only weigh around 110-115 lbs.. I've always been extremely light.. Which is odd, because even while I am skinny, I don't look THAT skinny.

Some of my other parallels seem to have quite a significance too..

They seem to be overlooked.. Even I feel like I don't give them as much significance as I should at times.

I was never sure how to look at contra parallels so I never really looked at there influence in my chart..

To me, it seems parallels and contra parallels, while having similarities to conjunctions and oppositions, seem to resonate in a slightly different way. But, I can't quite tell.

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posted March 30, 2015 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!

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posted April 02, 2015 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReadingTheStars95     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also.. Just found.. I have sun and moon contra-parallel..

My parents, I could say, at times, have definitely played some somewhat opposing influences in my life.

Of course, the sun and moon represent more than the Mother and Father..

But, with my parents relationship being the way it is (not the greatest) I was always surprised to find that me and my sister didn't have any sun-moon aspects in our charts..

Well, if I count Contra-Parallel.. Then, that definitely shows up in my chart, a bit.

Just realized.. not sure if declinations are ever used with stars or not.. And well.. This would be something I would be better off putting in to asteroid astrology, but it resonates.. So..

I have the asteroid Nostalgia Contra-Parallel Sirius in my natal.. Conjunct Sirius in my Draconic.

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posted April 13, 2015 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the link, GeminiKarat.

To put it simply, planets must be located like we would locate any other point -- by a two axis set of coordinates. The zodiac position of a planet is only its east-west axis, generally laid out relative to the sun's path (ecliptic). The declinations are the north and south positions of the planets -- north or south of the celestial equator.

Planets/points in the same degree/same distance north would be parallel in north declination. Same if they were both south.

Two planets/points the same distance from the celestial equator, but one north and the other south, makes a contra-parallel aspect.

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posted April 14, 2015 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great topic.

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posted March 21, 2017 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have these declinations:

Moon (11˚44’ N)
Saturn (10˚46' S)
Venus (12˚01' S)

Mars (14˚05' N)
MC (14˚08' N)

ASC (15˚50' N)
NN (16˚ 09’ S)

Sun (23˚07’ S)
Mercury (24˚13’ S)
Uranus (21˚43' S)
Neptune (21˚ 06’ S)

Do they ASC / NN ones and Mars / MC count? Is the Sun/Uranus & Neptune too wide? (I think mercury is) . This is interesting to me and the Moon-Saturn-Venus one makes sense..

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posted April 07, 2017 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Selenite:

Moon (11˚44’ N) is contra-parallel Venus, Saturn.
Saturn (10˚46' S)
Venus (12˚01' S) - maybe a bit too far for parallel with Saturn <orb 1°15'>.

Mars (14˚05' N)
MC (14˚08' N) if this figure is correct, it is parallel with Mars and yes, this is a legitimate aspect.

ASC (15˚50' N) is parallel S.Node
NN (16˚ 09’ S)

Sun (23˚07’ S) is parallel Mercury <orb=1°06'>, but too wide for Uranus, Neptune.
Mercury (24˚13’ S)
Uranus (21˚43' S)
Neptune (21˚ 06’ S)

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posted April 07, 2017 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kannon, thanks Haha.. Yeah the Mars one is correct. So they are really like conjunctions and oppositions?

And lmao, that's good about Sun/Neptune/Uranus being too wide, I already have moon square neptune and uranus..

ASC parallel SN is like a conjunction then, that makes sense.. my nodes are square the ASC too.
Moon-saturn, well I already have Mars opposite Saturn, they both make sense.. I guess self-mastery is the key
Thanks for clearing those up ^_^

Oh and what about the Vertex? It is 23'23 S

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Originally posted by Selenite:
[B]Kannon, thanks Haha.. Yeah the Mars one is correct. So they are really like conjunctions and oppositions?

Absolutely. Parallels are conjunctions of declination, contra-parallels oppositions of declination.

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posted April 08, 2017 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 08, 2017 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hallowseve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think they are legit. I've read statistical studies regarding career research and some of the aspects they use are parallels and contra-parallels. Example: one study concluded that there was a 99.9% probability that teachers will have Mercury parallel Pluto. And, for another career, there was a 99.9% probability that scientists will have Jupiter contra-parallel Neptune.

I think that's too great of a probability to not be of consequence.

Just my thoughts.

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