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missash
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posted August 24, 2006 05:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 24, 2006 10:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ash,

Astrology doesn't have the answers to what choices people decide to make (in my opinion), but it can help explain why they consider making certain choices.

In his chart, he has NO planets retrograde (there are no little "Rx"s next to his planets, indicating NONE of his energy is held back...his energy flows easily in him. He has most of his planets at the top right of his chart, indicating that he uses his relationships with others to do things for others. Hhe has very few challenging aspects so he may simply expect things to be easy...and get annoyed when things go wrong.

The "girl" has Jupiter (expansion, also opportunity) trine (energy goes very easily with) Venus (relationships), so she has easy opportunities in relationships. She has Scorpio (transformation, also power, control) modifying Venus, so she likes to be in control in her relationships and may use that control to get her the relationships she wants. However Venus is focused in the 11th house (friends) so she may want to be "friends" in a relationship...close but not TOO close. She also has Libra (relationships) modifying Sun (self-expression, also performing arts) conjunct (energy is combined with) her Midheaven (outer world), indicating she is always "on stage" somehow in the outer world with her relationships.

Their synastry chart indicates lots of connections in the "personal" planets (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, and Mars), indicating strong personal connections with each other...which you already know.

The only thing constant in life is change. Adapting to change is what makes us strong...and able to handle more changes.

Changeably,

Tim

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posted August 24, 2006 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a bizarre story.

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missash
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posted August 24, 2006 04:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim..

Thank you very much for taking the time to read my post and replying to it.

the girls chart-
your interpretation is so ACCURATE. i dont know her very well, but of what i know her, and what i have observed..your interpretation was very accurate...easy opportunities, control in relationship, on stage in the outerworl wiht relations ships. everything is so true.

nobody knew who she was, untill she was associated with the boy, and its the relationship thats *on stage*..so yes its so true.

the boys chart-
when i asked "are all his planets retrograde?"...i meant to ask "do you see FOOLISHNESS in his chart?"
its my fault..i shouldnt have used a astro/technical word..

i asked this because he has made such a foolish choice..
the girl can no way be compared to sarah or andrea....they are just too sophisticated.
iam not saying this because sarah and andrea are my friends...

He is lucky enough to have such a HUGE choice, there are so many girls interested in him, and each one, in my opinion is better than the girl, in terms of looks, attitude and every other aspect.

You answered this question too.."Astrology doesn't have the answers to what choices people decide to make". and you also explained his chart. Thank you.
can you please explain what do you mean by "he uses his relationships with others to do things for others"


and..Thank you for the advice..

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posted August 24, 2006 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In simple terms he means that the focus of the guy's chart is on others both in terms of working with others, and in working for others. He said that because all of the guy's planets are in the upper right section of the chart. The right side of a chart denotes a concentration on others, whereas the left side of the chart is focused on self.

Retrogrades don't necessarily equate to foolishness. Tim did point out that the guy has very few challenging aspects, so he may expect things to be easy for him. That could cause an overconfidence that could be foolish, but doesn't mean that he is necessarily or absolutely foolish. He is a Capricorn after all. (Like me)

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posted August 24, 2006 04:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you
i still didnt get it though..
what is he doing for others?????

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posted August 24, 2006 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In terms of your story, perhaps nothing ...except going with the flow. He likely enjoys bouncing his ideas off of other people.

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posted August 24, 2006 06:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ash,

You are welcome and I am glad it made some sense to you. However, in trying to read someone else's chart there comes a point where we can't fully understand it...only the person whose chart it is fully understands how they use their own energies.

About the limitations of astrology,

Tim

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missash
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Acoustic god..
Thanks again. it makes sense now.

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wilsontc
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posted August 25, 2006 01:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ash,

I said:

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The only thing constant in life is change. Adapting to change is what makes us strong...and able to handle more changes.

I think this is the most important thing to learn from this experience. Move on and continue to grow and develop more knowledge about the ups and downs in the world from your experiences.

I suggest he is a person who can easily be influenced by others and she VERY MUCH wants to influence others. So he is VERY influenced by her...simply because she wants him to be influenced by her.

There is something else I didn't mention before. He has Aquarus (friends) modifying Jupiter (expansion) focused in the 11th house (friends), indicating he likes to have LOTS of friends.

Also he has Scorpio (transformation, also control) modifying Pluto (transformation, also control) conjunct (energy is combined with) his Descendant (others), indicating he likes to be in control of others. This Pluto is conjunct Mars (being, also action, anger), all of which indicates he COULD become revengeful and may be VERY slow to "forgive and forget". People with strong Scorpio energy sometimes have a VERY hard time taking a joke. Once someone embarrasses them, they are THROUGH with that person...for the rest of their life. Scorpio people can hold grudges for a VERY long time.

Scorpio people can have a way of transforming those around them. Hopefully this transformation is about you discovering that even the simplest joke or clever comment can be taken TOTALLY wrong...and there is no way to ever get back the moment before the joke or comment was made. Hopefully also this experience convinces you ALL to be VERY careful how you treat people in the future...because you never know how they will take things.

Answering questions,

Tim

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posted August 25, 2006 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ahhh, college...

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mysticaldream
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posted August 25, 2006 08:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL, Tim,
I have Mars conjunct Pluto just like this young man and what you wrote is SO TRUE!!
I am just now forgiving people who made nasty comments to me over a decade ago......sad but true! Luckily I am learning to just let it go; however, your quote is so right on!

"This Pluto is conjunct Mars (being, also action, anger), all of which indicates he COULD become revengeful and may be VERY slow to "forgive and forget". People with strong Scorpio energy sometimes have a VERY hard time taking a joke. Once someone embarrasses them, they are THROUGH with that person...for the rest of their life. Scorpio people can hold grudges for a VERY long time."

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ash,

What I was trying to say was that he can easily be influenced by others...until he feels someone has let him down or hurt him. Then he makes it a point of NEVER allowing himself to be influenced by that person EVER again. AND anyone who agrees with him that the person who let him down is a "bad person" can become an "instant friend." My guess is that is what your "girl" is doing: putting down his "enemies" in order to look better in his eyes.

Andrea and this boy have something in common...a "floating" Jupiter (Jupiter is on one side of his chart "disconnected" from his other planets). But where in the boy's case his Jupiter (expansion) "floats" in terms of his friends (11th house), Andrea's Jupiter floats in terms of her dating (self-expression, also fifth house). So Andrea may date a LOT...but she does not "connect in" with the people she dates. So she may date MORE in an effort to "feel" connected dating-wise. Instead, she needs to accept that, although she may not feel it, she has LOTS of dating energy.

And Andrea is different from the boy. Where the boy has LOTS of energy near and/or in the 7th house (relationships), Andrea has NO energy in the 7th house. So where he relates for the sake of relating...she does NOT relate for the sake of relating. Instead, her energy is focused on "dating"...and this is not enough.

Also he has Capricorn (duty, also structure) modifying Venus (relationships), she has Gemini (thinking, also talking) modifying Venus...indicating his energy is about a structured "serious relationship" while hers is about a social "talking relationship".

All these things COULD be overcome by working together, but that is up to the boy...and, since the girl is unlikely to let him be friends with Andrea and the boy is VERY influenced by others...he will probably take the "easy way out" and do what she wants. The girl also has Scorpio strong in her chart, and he knows that going against her wishes could cause a LOT of stress he DOESN'T want to deal with! All of this makes looking at any possible interconnection between andrea and the boy unimportant...until the girl decides that she will let andrea be with the boy...it's NOT going to happen!

Relating,

Tim

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missash
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posted August 25, 2006 06:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you

You have really helped us a lot.


Thanks again.

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missash
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posted August 26, 2006 03:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Jan_A
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posted August 26, 2006 04:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really funny, but nothing new
"someone wants to use you, somebody wants to get used by you"
P.S. Sarah is the best in that story

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missash
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posted August 26, 2006 04:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah.
dont know what was your reason to call sarah the best...but people love her for her attitude.

well..although she is friends only with a select few..she does interact with everyone else very sweetly..

but i think after this experience...she will not interact with people untill she is sure.. where they come from(got what i mean)

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missash
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posted August 26, 2006 04:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well..it is new to me,

i havent seen such bad taste...anywhere.

In case you didnt know..she is ugly, and the extreme opposite of classy.(didnt want to write any strong word..just trying to be polite)

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moderator, in case you read my comment before i could edit...please excuse me.

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Jan_A
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posted August 26, 2006 04:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
missash
You know, it seems, Sarah is an independent person. The strength is not in being popular, the strength is in being yourself.
P.S. I don't think, you should "save" Andrea- she knows, what she wants.

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missash
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posted August 26, 2006 04:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
because she is my friend.. i know she is quite independant.

how could you say she is independant.


oh so you edited your post..just noticed that
thanks

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Jan_A
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posted August 26, 2006 04:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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