posted September 20, 2006 06:25 PM              

Hence I ask....

posted September 20, 2006 06:41 PM              

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"WHATEVER the soul longs for, WILL be attained by the spirit"

"Love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation"

posted September 21, 2006 01:05 AM            

Who are the Masons? They're that lovely lodge of people who paid for this city girl's summers at sleepaway camp and have really yummy BBQs.

posted September 21, 2006 04:19 PM              

Wasnt Mozart one?

posted September 22, 2006 04:03 PM              

Masonic lodges, as they are referred, which are infact their meeting places, same as a group of children would attend a youth or community club on a pre-arranged night, exist in virtually every major city and town throughout the western and european world.

The masonic realms contain various degrees of ordainment - similar to the church. a new or junior member would be classed as an 5th or 6th degree member, with the 11th, 12th degree being some of the highest ranks - often the most senior members of a government or head of a multi billion dollar/pound corporation would be the types of individuals who would reach such a height as a 10th degree member, or above.

Just to make you think, every police force in the western world is run, managed and based on a masonic principle! - their motto is Ord Ab Chao - which translates to 'Order out of Chaos' - in simple terms, they create the chaos, wait for the populous to cry out for something to be done, then they themselves develop the methods and style of order with which they will implement the controlling of this so caled chaos.

Very clever - as they control both the chaos and the order, and we all go along with it under the mistaken belief that it is in our best intrest because we ourselves called for it.......!

Of course they do charitable things - like pay for school outings and providing sponsorship for the underprivaliged etc......hence people in general accept them as nothing more than a charitable group of like minded businesmen who hold regular meetings for the benefit of everyone......!

The higher degrees of ordainment within the masonic sects are proficient astrologers, mathemeticians and geometricians, as well as numerous other esoteric specialists.

They are proficiently aclimned to the countless dieties and use the powers of each of these for the benefit of their goals, irrelevant of what they may profess to the uninitiated.......!

Without going on and on - think about this. Every floor in every masonic temple is covered in chequered tiles. Black and white to be precise, just like a large scale chess board. The more modern temples may not use the hand cut marble as the earlier temples did, they now use carpet - but it is still black and whit cheques - think about it - next time you look at the cap of a police officer, with the cheqered band around it's rim, next time you walk into a bank, with it's cheqered floor etc... etc... you'll know they are representing the power which controls it - The masons..........

posted September 22, 2006 04:08 PM              

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Arent they a bit dodgy, a bit weird... weird handshakes and stuff?
Wasnt Mozart one?

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you're my hero sue

posted September 22, 2006 04:32 PM              

mystical.....oooeeerr.....very strange hey?

posted September 22, 2006 06:42 PM            

the newbies start of at 3rd degrees...
I've met many high leveled masons that would not touch astrology with a ten foot pole...because..

every mason has their own religion and like the world outside of the lodge, the larger percentage of the members are Christian.

Also, Masonry does not required that you have a high powered job. My father, for instance, worked for the sanitation department. What are you trying to say? They only require that you have a stable income.

posted September 27, 2006 06:04 PM              

I was giving examples of - not exact specifics, - as, if as you say your father is one - he would not be discussing it in any sort of elaborate depth with you - unless you too happen to be one!!!!

Oh, and I think you'll find that I wasn't saying you had to have a high powered job in order to be one - moreso that the majority of big cheeses in the top echelones of the corporate/political world simply happen to be one - for your info most of my family are high ranking members -from the original orders funnily enough and my immediate fammily answer only to the dukes of the order............and they are methodist, christian and catholic - so the point is?

posted September 27, 2006 06:10 PM              

He was a client of my hubbies...he used to bring him work...(my husband is a graphic designer)..

posted September 27, 2006 06:11 PM              

I was giving examples of - not exact specifics, - as, if as you say your father is one - he would not be discussing it in any sort of elaborate depth with you - unless you too happen to be one!!!!

Oh, and I think you'll find that I wasn't saying you had to have a high powered job in order to be one - moreso that the majority of big cheeses in the top echelones of the corporate/political world simply happen to be one - for your info most of my family are high ranking members -from the original orders funnily enough and my immediate fammily answer only to the dukes of the order............and they are methodist, christian and catholic - so the point is?

posted September 27, 2006 06:19 PM              

Who Can Qualify To Join?

Applicants must be men of good character who believe in a Supreme Being. To become a Mason one must petition a particular Lodge. The Master of the Lodge appoints a committee to visit the applicant prior to the Lodge balloting upon his petition.

So Who Are The Masons?

Masons are men of good character who strive to improve themselves and make the world a better place. They belong to the oldest and most honorable fraternity known to man. If you think you may be interested in becoming a member, you can begin by contacting a Lodge in your area or speaking to a Mason.

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"Men of good character"

damn that rules me out then....