posted November 24, 2006 03:07 AM            

she has Neptune square her Aries Moon, and that indicates that she is a psychic,emotional sponge, but can have feelings uncertainty,confusion. She can be sensitive to feelings of others,and she can be taken advantage of if she ignores the faults of others. Moon square Neptune can also indicate possibility of being spiritual.

I think that your interpretation has been a bit harsh,Neptune5. Salisa might be insecure with her Chiron square Ascendant which can indicate a wounded person whether physically or emotionally who can feel inadequate about herself as well as her physical appearance. Her Sun quincunx Saturn can indicate insecurity..especially limited,restricted in self depression. This can be a depressed,limited ego. Her t-square of Moon in Aries,Mars in Cancer,Neptune in Capricorn can indicate emotional insecurity ....her feelings,emotional nature in stress,conflict with the polarization issues between her emotional,nurturing assertions/energy and her inspiration/imagination. There is a possibility of having passive-aggressive tendencies.

posted November 24, 2006 06:19 AM              

Personally I really wouldn't want to get to know you, due to you having barely nothing in your 5th, 1st, & 11th houses, those are the houses of expression and character, thats where true value lies in a person, and you clearly don't have that.

Neptune.... not cool. Why would you be so cruel to someone you don't know? Do you have such a depth of astrological knowledge you can make an assumption like this?

And according to your posted chart on another thread, you aren't a Virgo rising, either.

posted November 24, 2006 06:25 AM            

you can tell someone what you think about them without being negative and overcritical. you have to remember that lots of people don't have things in their 1st, 5th, 11th houses. thousands upon thousands of people may have similar placements but yet, we're all different. Don't be so harsh.

I have a feeling you didn't mean to be so harsh though, I think you're just blunt and honest which is good. But remember that yes, the cold, metallic, computer screen doesn't have feelings but the person on the other side does.

posted November 24, 2006 08:36 AM            

Unbelievably harsh. Sorry, but aren't u 15 or something??? She was asking about her chart, not about whether u wanted to be friends w her.

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with your Moon in Aries your probably arrogant, and speak about yourself alot, which is not attractive to say the least,

No offense but you're kinda guilty of that too! You stated in another thread how physically attractive u are and in many more threads have hammered home how intellectually superior u are to most (?) people here and have gotten very indignant when your opinions were challenged in a logical manner.

posted November 24, 2006 10:28 AM              

Vivien Leigh hey? Now she was one hell of an amazingly charismatic, strong, vibrant Scorpio woman...!!

I would be interested to see how the charts of other strong actors like Bette Davies and Joan Crawford, (both Aries), look?

As for the "foot in the mouth" approach, lets hope for some improvement in the way others are treated...

There is always a way of helping others without the "kick ass' approach. On a forum, you never know whose ass you might be kicking....that peson could be feeling very lost and down....a kind word or two could change things for them.....

Lets be honest, but kind to each other hey guys. Of course it can be difficult when we havent yet reached maturity, but maybe just to keep it in mind...

posted November 24, 2006 12:07 PM              

With Taurus (physical, also personal values) modifying North node (future goals) focused in the 9th house (expansion, also wisdom), it is very important for you to learn for yourself what your own values are.

Valuing you,

posted November 24, 2006 12:25 PM            

Salisa, I would love to help you out but I'm afraid I know nothing about the current transits - I'm still a bit of an amature. But Happy Dragon is probably the one to ask - he's brilliant with that sort of thing!!!

However, you have have quite a few nice aspects in your chart (including a nicely filled 10th house - FAME BABY!) Hope these make some sense:

Sun conjunct Mercury

*Much mental energy. Can apply logic an definition to your will.
*Good intelligence and communication skills.
*Opinionated, independent thinkers - need to listen more though!

Sun trine Jupiter

*Vey generous & friendly - well liked.
*Good hearted with strong morals.
*Great sense of humour - often laughing and jolly.
*Generally optimistic.

Venus sexile Mars

*Charming.
*Honest and straightforward - ability to admit mistakes only adds to the charm.
*Creative talent?
*Romantic soul.

Venus trine Ascendant

*Warm, charming and sociable - will win friends easily.
*Congenial and gracious.
*Sensitive to criticsm so avoids criticising others.

Hope this helps. You may well have a few rough transits going on at the moment but I'm sure that you won't feel sad for long. Good and bad transits will always happen throughout life and their influences can sometimes make us feel strange but you have a lot going for you, so stay strong and it will get less challenging shortly. Good luck!

posted November 24, 2006 12:31 PM              

thr u go !! Uranus is at 10 deg Gemini right now, so it is conjunct your chiron. and soon will be moving towards your sun.
Neptune is at 17 degree Aquarius, trining your sun, conjunct your jupiter
pluto is at 24 degree sag, opposing your merc. saturn is at 23 degree leo, sextile merc in your chart.
i'm no expert, but u hv a lot of aspects from the outer planets, as well as transits from them to your personal planets. no wonder u r feeling this way.

posted November 24, 2006 12:42 PM              

Everyone, especially Salisa, I deeply apologize, I'm usually such a soft person, and warm and caring, and I regret that Salisa has not seen that usual side of me. To tell the truth, t'is my fault because I misread the thread thinking that she wanted us to say something negative about it,

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I think that your interpretation has been a bit harsh,Neptune5. Salisa might be insecure with her Chiron square Ascendant which can indicate a wounded person whether physically or emotionally who can feel inadequate about herself as well as her physical appearance. Her Sun quincunx Saturn can indicate insecurity..especially limited,restricted in self depression. This can be a depressed,limited ego. Her t-square of Moon in Aries,Mars in Cancer,Neptune in Capricorn can indicate emotional insecurity ....her feelings,emotional nature in stress,conflict with the polarization issues between her emotional,nurturing assertions/energy and her inspiration/imagination. There is a possibility of having passive-aggressive tendencies

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Thanks for the heads up Raymond, I clearly let my own insecurities (7 Squared moon & 6 squared AC) take pre-dominance over me and squander my personality at that moment. Which I would like to admit that my foolish reply (which I had not pre-calculated) shows that in the heat of the moment, I was the person at all fault, Salisa is completely innocent and will remain that way

Alanabelle, you were right, i am naturally blunt & honest,

But I believe that all of you, through all of your replies, only meant to say one thing.
Neptune5 should use her innate tact & diplomacy, because without it one is seen as a person of unlikeable traits.

I'm going to pray right now, i'm going to pray not just for the spirit of Salisa that she may not listen to my previous words which meant absolutely nothing, but for persons who are persistantly challenged by the everpresent force of malicious words, jealousy, unkindness, anger, thoughts and acts of terrorism, domestic & spousal abuse, and for those same persons who are indignantly facing the challenge of controling feelings that could mean harm to someone of other.

posted November 26, 2006 05:25 PM              

And karmafx, you haven't been here long so I excuse you not knowing how exceedingly kind I am. And i'm sure if you continue to assume, for example the circumstances at my reply were weary and unclear, then you could be sewing misunderstandings with a lot of persons.

posted November 26, 2006 08:23 PM              

I had better keep my mouth shut, or I am going
to be just as critical and b!tchy as neptune was.

posted November 27, 2006 12:31 AM            

What do you, Neptune, know about CHARACTER?

When someone crawls up to you un-armed and begging for some kindness and help and you spit on her and attack her?
And then when someone has the GALL to suggest that your apology wasn't sincere, you puff up and start lording over them too? Oh, yes, your "exceedingly kind" self is just spraying all over the place.
We all try to be kind here, but kicking someone when they are down should not be ignored. Using someone's astrological info to bash them by only mentioning and attributing the negative energies to them is also NOT TOLERATED HERE, and if you have been here that long, then you know that.
I can't believe you looked at her chart which she openly and honestly shared, and said she was probably arrogant and clearly didn't have character or true value.
If you just HAVE to get tough with someone, you can try me on for size, but you better have been eating your mental Wheaties. My first house Aries and my Mercury in Virgo make me just as arrogant and intelligent as you.
I keep re-reading your comments because frankly, I'm astounded. Your apology seems to be growing on me. At least you claim that you will say a prayer for Salisa, but I think you should be giving her a more personal apology instead of just a group apology and then a ramble about yourself in your defense.

And getting all bad with Karmafx... "I EXCUSE you..." and "if you continue to ASSUME" and then the little Mob comment at the end where you warn about upsetting your connections here at LL. Sheesh. I just can't get over this.

I hear you, MK, it's time for me to shut up too.