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VirgoManBrokenHeart
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posted January 07, 2007 04:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am glad that you are happy & enjoying with your Virgo man. All he wants is to stick with him and never leave him, even if at times you feel it is hard for you to stick with him! Can you do that?
I guess if there were no one else around, A Virgo would pray & ask God to have some one around and also to find some work or activity which can turn into like some service to helpless and weak.
Well about Sagittarius woman I want to know—Let me first tell you something, it was her, who contacted me and initiated the relationship, she always used to tell me “If I love you, You don’t have to reciprocate” Although I never understood this sentence to this day, it sounds so stupid to me because if somebody loves you, how can you possibly not lover her back, but I was always honest with her for 2 reasons; 1- I did not wanted her to get crazy and deeply involved with me before marriage, so I choose not to say something very sentimental to her until she said goodbye finally. But before she left me I told her everything in the most sentimental way possible but I guess she already made her mind….
Question: Once at this stage when a Sagittarius makes her mind nothing even tears can make her change her mind?
2- I knew she wanted so much to marry me, but I wanted to marry a very pretty and tall girl and I told her about this other girl in our college, I never ever lied to her, what was in my heart was in my words, but finally when she said good bye, If given a choice between that tall pretty girl and my Sagittarius tigress. I would choose my tigress without thinking for a moment and she knew this fact.
Question: She used to say “I am not worth your love” what is that supposed to mean?
Question 3: Sagittarius women can tell lie under some circumstances? And if she lied about something can she get out of such a strong relationship because she feels that she has not been honest in the relationship?
Question 4: Can she leave a man because she thinks that she is not worth him or she thinks that he might be happy with a better girl?
Question 5: Or simply when she finds a better man, she can walk out of a strong relationship?
Sorry for asking so many questions!
I guess this would be enough for now
Thank you and best regards.

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future_uncertain
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posted January 08, 2007 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ask away!

It's late now, so I will wait to answer your questions when my brain is not so fried. I want to give them my full attention. Good questions, though. Insightful, for sure!

I recognized a lot of myself in your post, if that tells you anything.

Will get back with you soon!

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VirgoManBrokenHeart
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posted January 08, 2007 03:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks please take your time but try to find answers in detail in as much detail as you can.
Sorry for bothering you!

(Only)Virgo Man (not broken heart)

Thanks again & best regards.

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VirgoManBrokenHeart
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posted January 13, 2007 05:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear future_uncertain
Thanks for deep thinking for my notes and to get me some answers.
Take your time! I hope to get very good notes ! waiting !
(Just)VirgoMan (not BH)
Best regards.

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VirgoManBrokenHeart
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posted January 16, 2007 03:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Waiting!

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VirgoManBrokenHeart
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posted January 28, 2007 07:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that is it No more swaping of notes ?

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moggym
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posted January 28, 2007 08:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi VirgoMan,
I have Venus in Virgo and we are very dedicated to our loved ones. Often we live but to make their lves easier. I am sorry for your Heartbreak. Perhaps if you posted your birthdates we could all have a look at the charts, and offer further feedback.

Love is letting go of Fear.
G. Jampolsky

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Battle of Evermore
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posted January 28, 2007 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Battle of Evermore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"It lingers for quite a while with me cause I don't fancy people often and when I do it's really really deeply."


THAT all the way. I agree, because that's just the way I am. It will eventually go away. Just try to focus on things you can do for yourself, and try not to get too caught up in your feelings.

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GeminiLover75
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posted January 28, 2007 09:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ex who I was with for five years, is a Virgo. The description is so true... I always felt like he wasn't just holding back, but rather he kinda just didn't care EVEN THOUGH I actually knew that he did in his own way. But that was the thing, "in his own way". I didn't completely understand his way... when he did all the dishes and cleaned the kitchen and bathroom, I didn't realise that was his way of showing me that he cared - by DOING things for me. Now I know what he meant, but it wasn't something I could fully appreciate feeling-wise. He would get introverted and depressed and not talk about it. He would always back away from the idea of getting married, having children... so I gave up on it. Eventually he asked me to marry him as a last resort on the day I was breaking up with him... but for me, it was too little too late. And yes... he crumbled...

btw, I'm a Sag rising. I had felt for so long like nothing in the relationship or my life was changing or growing (getting married, buying a house etc was the kind of change/growth I was looking for - Taurus/Scorpio), and the stagnancy of it all was driving me insane and so instead, I left because I needed to feel like I was going somewhere... breaking free...

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VirgoManBrokenHeart
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posted February 02, 2007 10:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moggym, Battle of Evermore, GeminiLover75 … Thanks to all of you for the input.
Moggym
I love her so dearly; I can’t disclose her date of birth even though I know there will be no harm to her if I give her date of birth, but even then I don’t feel comfortable. Each year I celebrate her birth day without her, bring a cake…... and..
Only I can tell it is first week of December, and she is few years younger to me!
My birthday is 10 September 1963 around 12 noon.

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pidaua
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posted February 02, 2007 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I dont know a thing about charts, moons and astrology
me Virgo 10 Sep. 1963
She Sagittarius in the mid of Sagittarius days- pure Sagittarius I dont feel comfortable giving her date of birth or year becuase I care about her so much
She broke my heart but I still love her from each and every peice of my broken heart."


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I am very sorry for your heartbreak and I don't normally post on certain topics but your user name spoke to me in a way.

I am a Sagittarius female, born in the middle of December. I divorced my Virgo-ex husband in 2002- it was final in 2003 after only 2 years of marriage. We were together for 6 years but we had many problems.

Intellectually we meshed incredibly well and my Virgo rising/ Pluto in Virgo conjuncting my rising loved his Virgo ways. The problem was his inability to "show" love in a physical way or for a fire sign that is physical and NEEDS that physical connection or merge, it was too hard. I was also 16 years younger than him, which never mattered to me, but as he got older he felt more and more self conscious about looking like a parental figure rather than my husband.

We made a great team in all other aspects. We loved doing things for each other, reading the newspaper, going for walks in the neighborhood and at the park. He had a wonderful sense of humor and we could entertain each other just by talking about the news, jokes etc...

But again, I never felt "Loved" in the way that I needed. I have a close family, he didn't like to talk to his family and could never understand my connection. I love kids, he couldn't stand the thought of little ones running around the house. I wanted land and animals, he wanted to be the DC power couple- BUT, he was still down to earth, if that makes sense.

When I finally made the decision to leave he was devastated. He knew I was unhappy, but I could no longer take the rejection of being married to a man that could not even touch me on my wedding night or honeymoon. That is too hard for a red blooded woman (Archer)in her late 20's.

It broke my heart to know I shattered his, and even though mine was beat up badly by the rejection I was more worried about him. We went to counseling and he realized that he loved the qualities in me, but he always knew he wasn't the one for me. Fate brought us together and we learned from each other.

In the end though, we stayed friends. We saw each other once a week for dinner, BBQ's and going to the movies. We enjoyed talking and neither of us felt slighted because the pressure was off and we knew we were just friends...


At least that is how I perceived it. When I moved to Arizona we both cried. I got into a horrible relationship with an abusive Taurus and the ex-Virgo was there to give me advice and help me with the struggle. When he had issues with his job, I did the same for him.

Then he moved to another part of MD. I remember his e-mail telling me he had to close a chapter in his life (which was no small feat considering he HATED change- Taurus rising- and had even lived in the same home for 20 years). When he moved into his new home, I never heard from him again.


Still, I will never forget him. He taught me so much about life, career and letting go of the past (since he never could). He told me I taught him how to LIVE and enjoy what we have now because we never know when it will disappear.

I have a soft spot in my heart for Virgo men or men with signifant Virgo in their charts. It has been a recurring theme in my relationships.

I am now married to a wonderful Leo (he has a Virgo rising and Venus in Virgo). He has all the qualities of my ex-husband PLUS he is warm, responsive and we SHOW our love in the same way, therefore there is no rejection.

My ex-Virgo gave me so many gifts of knowledge. I will never forget him for that and my heart will always carry a special place for him and will hold love, sadness and happiness for him.


~Pidaua
Sun - Sag
Moon - Aries
Mercury -Capricorn
Venus - Sag
Virgo Rising

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future_uncertain
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posted February 03, 2007 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
VirgoMan, I didn't mean to leave you waiting for so long. I have no excuses, only my apology.

Where are you now, heartwise? Pidaua was right on the mark about a Sag girl's needs. (She and I share a birthday!) This is what is so difficult for us. We do feel rejected by the interior love that Virgo seems to experience. We are very outwardly demonstrative, and we play buddies well, so it may come as a shock when you find that we are actually unhappy. My Virgo and I get along so well that he doesn't always realize that I'm feeling cold in other ways until it blindsides him by a fit of what I can only call a passionate Sagittarius rage.

And then he is only confused. He draws into himself and wonders what he did wrong when everything seemed to be going so well.

It's like this: the "friend" thing gets us going and the next natural transition is into something deeper, something more emotional, raw and complex. It is here that Virgo seems to become disoriented.

As for myself, what I seek is submission into that emotional/core oblivion. This seems a difficult step for Virgo to take. It seems that to see that edge is enough... Virgo knows it is there, knows that he is on the safe side of the cliff, and there he remains standing.

It's infuriating for a Sag (or any passionate) gal to experience this... we can fall and rise at will. There is no fear, only surrender, and the surrender is sweet indeed.

We want you to take the fall with us... dip into the oblivion... we are there and you are safe and it is exhilarating.

Nothing breaks our hearts more than this decision to stand on the side of security when everything we crave is on the other side of that line.

Does this make any sense to you?

I can see the other side of this story. For Virgo it seems to be enough to know... why take the risk when "here" is a sure thing? Because relationships are dynamic, not static. They must move... forward or backward... it is up to you, but stagnancy is a state we cannot tolerate. If it doesn't go as planned... that's okay. We can pick up pieces and try agan. And again and again and again. We do not fear failure. We are more loyal than we are sometimes given credit for, even if we do espouse rather lenient philosophies.

In our hearts we are looking for the one true thing. We won't keep a promise for promise's sake, but because we are dedicated to the cause. And love is a cause we will fight for relentlessly.

I'll be waiting to hear from you when you have time.

Tell me what you think of this.

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artgirl
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posted February 04, 2007 04:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Virgo man
I am a virgo woman and my ex was a sag. we were together for 10 years. but it ended. there were times when i thought i would not live through another day. sometimes i used to take sleeping pills and sleep a whole day away just to make time pass to have the pain go away. i thought i could never live with out him, but at the end of it all we virgos are strong remember that. nothing will bring us down. you have to give yourself a chance with another person. as soon as i decided i had had enough and there he was a new guy. there are things you should not do. don't compare her to anyone else. remember all the good times and know this that everyone comes into our life for a reason and we learn and grow from each experince. i remember i sometimes had actual chest pains for days from the heartache. but i lived through it and i'm ok now i can actually talk to him and not go all crazy inside now. give yourself the chance with another person. its all in your head when you decide it will happen. and remember love, pain, hearache are all part of life making us feel alive.

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VirgoManBrokenHeart
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posted February 04, 2007 04:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am very sorry for your heartbreak and I don't normally post on certain topics but your user name spoke to me in a way.
Thank you very much pidaua especially because you don’t normally post on cetain topics yet you posted a kind & long post. I highly appreciate it.

I am more than happy because “I am now married to a wonderful Leo (he has a Virgo rising and Venus in Virgo). He has all the qualities of my ex-husband PLUS he is warm, responsive and we SHOW our love in the same way, therefore there is no rejection.”
Everything is well that ends well!

future_uncertain Thank you for this post . I like it and I think I understood something, yet I want to read it at least 10 times before I can say something about it. It is not because you took time that is why I want to reply late, but it is because I really want to understand the deep meaning. Let me try and hey thanks so much for such deep thinking for me and such a wonderful post!

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VirgoManBrokenHeart
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posted February 04, 2007 05:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Artgirl
Really your post gives me an inspiration. Thanks so much.

Following lines of yours are simply amazing:

“remember all the good times and know this that everyone comes into our life for a reason and we learn and grow from each experince.”

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VirgoManBrokenHeart
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posted February 04, 2007 06:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lady : Why Do you like me .. ? Why Do you Love me..?

Man : I can't tell the reason. But I really like you...

Lady : You can't even tell me the reason... how can you say you like me? How can you say you love me?

Man : I really don't know the reason, but I can prove that I love you.

Lady : Proof? No! I want you to tell me the reason. My friend's boyfriend can tell her why he loves her but not you!

Man : Ok..ok!!! Erm... because you are beautiful,
because your voice is sweet,
because you are caring,
because you are loving,
because you are thoughtful,
because of your smile,
because of your every movements.

The lady felt very satisfied with the man's answer. Unfortunately, a few days later, the Lady met with an accident and went into the coma stage.

The Guy then placed a letter by her side, and here is the content:

Darling,
Because of your sweet voice that I love you...Now can you talk? No! Therefore I cannot love you?
Because of your care and concern that I like you...Now that you cannot show them, therefore I cannot love you?
Because of your smile, because of your every movement that I love you...Now can you smile? Now can you move?
No, therefore, I cannot love you?
If love needs a reason, like now, there is no reason for me to love you anymore.
Does love need a reason? NO!
Therefore, I still love you...And love doesn't need a reason

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artgirl
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posted February 04, 2007 06:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgo man
I am glad if i were able to help a bit.
but the important thing is to dare to live, to take what life has to offer with both hands and to plunge into it and to deal with whatever life has instore and whatever it delivers to you. all the experinces and feelings are what make us feel alive. i am like that i am dare to take risks, unfortunately the cancer guy i am with now is not like that, so its frustrating but its a new experience i am trying to learn from it.

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future_uncertain
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posted February 04, 2007 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Take your time, VirgoMan. I loved your story by the way!

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susie3g
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posted February 05, 2007 10:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a Virgo lady. I just wanted to tell you, Virgo man, that I understand what you are going through. Try to remember that everything happens for a reason. That's what I do. I have a friend who asks me what I want to do when we go out. I always say, "Whatever you want is fine with me." I just always want the other person to be happy. I am 32 and I'm just now learning what kinds of food I really like, the places I really enjoy going to, etc. because I've spent all my life trying to please everyone else. I can sympathize with the one who said, "Ask a Virgo what they want, and they can't really answer." It's hard to get over a broken heart, I'm still trying to myself. But if you get the feeling that nothing lasts forever, then really remember that and realize that your pain won't last forever, either.

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VirgoManBrokenHeart
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posted February 06, 2007 05:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
susie3g
“then really remember that and realize that your pain won't last forever, either.”

I wish and hope so but it seems that it will last till my heart beats.
Thanks so much for your kind concern and input.

future_uncertain

"Nothing breaks our hearts more than this decision to stand on the side of security when everything we crave is on the other side of that line."
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15 years back on her parents advise and pressure she chooses the side of security (much richer person than me) while what she craved for (me) was on the other side of the line.
When it was the time to discuss & plan, yes it was me who kept her telling that we must stay on the safe side of the cliff, but when the time came to jump, I asked her to jump with me and told her we would be safe, as I am with you, and there she remains standing on the safe side of the cliff.
I never blame her for anything; neither am I blaming her now, just telling you the facts, answering your post. I never wanted her to hurt her parents in any way whatsoever, yet I asked her to take a jump with me, because I realized that there is nothing more important than to be together.
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"In our hearts we are looking for the one true thing. We won't keep a promise for promise's sake, but because we are dedicated to the cause. And love is a cause we will fight for relentlessly."
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I know she still loves me (she is married & have kids). She is very much concerned about me and repeatedly asking me to stop peeping into the past, forget the past and move on. I guess she is right but may be she can’t understand Virgo Love.
I know her advise is just perfect in the given circumstances, and on the advise of my sweet tigress I am pushing my heart with all my might from an angle of 180 degrees but this heart of mine filled with Virgo Love seems to be ………
Anyways thanks so much for all your kind posts, your concern and your time.

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VirgoManBrokenHeart
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posted February 08, 2007 09:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know some people think of me as crazy and mad in love, but ever wondered, what words Linda Goodman choose to describe the Virgo love & why?

Why she has to go that far, sort of insulting the passions of other Sun signs, in order to explain Virgo Love.

“There's a white heat to Virgo love, once it's ignited, that can put the passions of other Sun signs to shame by its very intensity and singleness of purpose. Igniting it may take some time, however.”… Linda Goodman (Sun Signs)

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posted February 08, 2007 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your challenge, then, is to have faith in that feeling of love and move forward. What you have now, this love for a woman who has married and had children, is like seating yourself in a car and not driving it.

If I am understanding correctly, she has made no move toward rekindling your romance. I respect the torch you carry for her, but you are selling yourself short. (A common Virgo affliction, I'm afraid.)

You see, she didn't give you that feeling of love you carry for her... you created it within yourself... it is, in actuality, separate from her. Your love is a gift that she could choose to accept or deny and it seems to me that she is not in a place in her life to accept the gift of your love.

YOUR love. YOUR heart. Virgo can get so lost in serving and living for another that they forget to consider themselves as complete parts of the equation. Your love for her is not dependent on her. You are also not dependent on her.

The greatest gift you can give yourself is the chance to find a worthy recipient of your heart. This is not to say that she is unworthy of your love... love her if you must. But be aware of the necessary boundaries and do not taint your gift of the heart with delusions.

From what you say, I've gathered that she is a dear friend and that your friendship is currently functional. Let it be. Do not forget your heart, and do not give up on love. Just give it a proper place to live.

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VirgoManBrokenHeart
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posted February 09, 2007 03:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes it makes perfect sense and thank you so much. Well the truth is that my mind already told me a decade ago, what you write in your post, but my heart does not support me and my mind. Thanks so much. I am sorry for being so stupid. Thanks anyways
I am trying and I guess I have to try harder and keep on doing that constantly, that is how life is! And yes you explained it all, in best possible way.
Now I have to do practically what you have explained and advised so beautifully.
Do you want me to try to explain something for you? If yes it will be a real pleasure.
Best regards.

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posted February 15, 2007 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
VirgoMan, I'm glad that nothing I said caused ill will. I sometimes worry about how things may come across in writing without the benefit of facial expression and tone of voice to clarify.

How are you doing lately? Have you found any peace since this thread began?

Things have been running very smoothly with my Virgo for a few weeks now. We had a difficult spell before that, but we're working through things one day at a time. We don't have as much time together as we would like, but we try to make the most of the time we do have.

I will certainly keep you in mind the next time I have a Virgo question... your insights have been valuable to me. I hope things are getting better for you.

Best wishes, VirgoMan!

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VirgoManBrokenHeart
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posted February 19, 2007 03:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am glad to read your reply/post. I am also glad that you are happy with your relationship. I asked the Sun sign of her hubby and she told me that he is Sagittarius too but very different from her, what is that supposed to mean? Well she is very much concerned about me; I love her as ever before. It gives me great feeling to know that she care about me so much.

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