posted April 14, 2013 05:54 PM            

You're welcome I couldn't just ignore such a message. Hmm... did you feel that unsure about the relationship at the beginning? If you get the vibe from him he didn't even think it'd last this long. Yeah, when there's a child involved I can imagine it feeling like a major responsibility - this is just a natural thing for Capricorn and the moon is no different. In which house does he have it, by the way (if I haven't asked yet)? This could give you a clue where he needs the security and feels most insecure. Even if you reassure him he doesn't need to be a part of your daughter's life, he's going to think he may be later. It's a pretty traditional sign.

If you don't want him to meet your girl yet, don't. That should be your choice and when you're ready, unless she knows about it? Good of you to let him know right off the bat where he stands (with you having a child), I think he appreciated that! Honesty is very important to an earth sign. And oh my, someone who can stand their ground and keep themselves in check, that's definitely attractive to him. Maybe the idea of you as this super capable woman might scare him a little, as if he wouldn't be able to live up to your needs.

Maybe you would like him to just admit that? Even if you like him the way he is. I think he has to hear that. Venus in Scorp - he's probably trying to figure you out but doesn't want to appear weak (and this is actually what hurts him).

;__; I'm sorry about the abortion. You've made the right choice, but sometimes it doesn't feel that way, right? Ugh, I'm so jealous of Cancers, they know everything right away just by their intuition. All of my feelings come in so late. Anyway. Ouch... that must've hurt, not getting the support. He could've been really awkward with that or even afraid of it setting off his own emotions, but that's no excuse IMO. I see. You do get the support in other ways like in gestures, him being around, etc. No, it's not pathetic!! You're traditional too, you like being treated like a lady. That's totally cool. Maybe keep insisting he has to support you, even when you're upset - that he doesn't have to say anything but at least hold your hand or put an arm around you and just let you cry. If you spell it out for him, it may take some pressure off him for how he's supposed to deal. Capricorns hate not knowing what to do, it feels so helpless. If you can, do point out that you notice the things he does for you. He needs to hear that too. It's easy for us to feel like a failure and nobody would want that.

posted April 22, 2013 08:17 PM            

I do want someone who isn't afraid to make the first move (and if they are, more love to them for doing that for me <3). I'm naturally holding back a bit until I get to know them better. Then my fire sun comes out.

So yeah. Do you have a Cappy moon too or interested in one?

posted April 25, 2013 03:22 PM            

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Originally posted by meissieri:

So yeah. Do you have a Cappy moon too or interested in one?

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2d Interested in one. I'm Virgo Moon but my chart is totally full with water, so I think I could handle Cap Moon but I was afraid that Cap Mooners are really cold-hearted and with no emotions. I hope that there are feelings and emotions just they will come out some day when he will get to know me better.

posted April 25, 2013 03:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Cappy Moon here. Love hand-holding and cuddling.

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This is great.

posted April 26, 2013 01:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Surprised?

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posted April 27, 2013 06:01 AM            

It probably takes them a while to open up and get comfortable, possibly longer than other moon signs (Saturn and delay). I tend to push my problems to the back of my head, especially when I have work to do or other responsibilities. Don't worry, they still have feelings, they're just more hidden and they protect them well. Just give them plenty of time to get to know you. Maybe all of your water can help them get more in touch with their feelings.

posted April 30, 2013 07:44 PM            

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Originally posted by meissieri:
Hey. Sorry it took me so long, but here I am. For the past months, I've been going through depression and it's been hard to even get the basic obligations done. They take me out of it a lot. Thank you for your patience.

You're welcome I couldn't just ignore such a message. Hmm... did you feel that unsure about the relationship at the beginning? If you get the vibe from him he didn't even think it'd last this long. Yeah, when there's a child involved I can imagine it feeling like a major responsibility - this is just a natural thing for Capricorn and the moon is no different. In which house does he have it, by the way (if I haven't asked yet)? This could give you a clue where he needs the security and feels most insecure. Even if you reassure him he doesn't need to be a part of your daughter's life, he's going to think he may be later. It's a pretty traditional sign.

If you don't want him to meet your girl yet, don't. That should be your choice and when you're ready, unless she knows about it? Good of you to let him know right off the bat where he stands (with you having a child), I think he appreciated that! Honesty is very important to an earth sign. And oh my, someone who can stand their ground and keep themselves in check, that's definitely attractive to him. Maybe the idea of you as this super capable woman might scare him a little, as if he wouldn't be able to live up to your needs.

Maybe you would like him to just admit that? Even if you like him the way he is. I think he has to hear that. Venus in Scorp - he's probably trying to figure you out but doesn't want to appear weak (and this is actually what hurts him).

;__; I'm sorry about the abortion. You've made the right choice, but sometimes it doesn't feel that way, right? Ugh, I'm so jealous of Cancers, they know everything right away just by their intuition. All of my feelings come in so late. Anyway. Ouch... that must've hurt, not getting the support. He could've been really awkward with that or even afraid of it setting off his own emotions, but that's no excuse IMO. I see. You do get the support in other ways like in gestures, him being around, etc. No, it's not pathetic!! You're traditional too, you like being treated like a lady. That's totally cool. Maybe keep insisting he has to support you, even when you're upset - that he doesn't have to say anything but at least hold your hand or put an arm around you and just let you cry. If you spell it out for him, it may take some pressure off him for how he's supposed to deal. Capricorns hate not knowing what to do, it feels so helpless. If you can, do point out that you notice the things he does for you. He needs to hear that too. It's easy for us to feel like a failure and nobody would want that.

Good of you to take a break and give him time to come back. And to share all of this. I'm happy to listen, though I'm not the best at getting back at people quickly. *sigh* Saturn. Delay everywhere. Good luck again <3

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posted May 03, 2013 04:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Freesia:
I'm glad to hear these details, this explains a lot to me. Saturn really slows down evtg.
Unfortunately I don't know his birth time, so can not tell the house of his Moon. Mine is in 10th. My Venus is Scorpio 1st house, his Venus in Leo.
I like that he is structured and controlled in his emotions and that he still has deep feelings. He is also very Uranian (his mars opposites Uranus) and he often acts unexpectedly.

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Ahh, so you do have a touch of the driven, hard-working Cap moon in you. I think it'll help you understand him better. Does your career mean a lot to you? The self-control, oh yeah, I'm glad you say that. Makes me feel better about my moon sign and the reputation it has.

Hmm... I guess your Venuses are square? The surprises from his Uranus can be pretty exciting and bring some intensity, which you may like with your Venus. I don't have that Venus sign, so I'm only really commenting as an outsider. If I'm not prying here (I naturally take a step back with people who are private), do you feel like he has different values? Venus in Leo, nice! I think he'll want to give you a lot of attention, but the Capricorn influence holds back. I have a Leo sun, so I can relate. If anything, I bet he's impossible not to notice.

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I thank you for responding once again. he has this damn effect over me that no one else does, he makes all the time in the world for me and when we get together we laugh we talk about random things just never about each other. I personally will not ever initiate a conversation on an emotional level with him, and that I will say would probably be my virgo moon, and my cancer sun hates rejection. so I always avoid the things that mean the most too me, like my feelings. anyways I share my story with this forum because I believe that there are other individuals out there who are wiser and more knowledgeable on this subject. i'm just lost. I never felt this way towards a man I was casual with. Now I do wear my heart on my sleeve. I just do not understand him his feelings etc. I think he feels the same towards me in the aspect of him not understanding me as well. I feel his Sag sun makes him wanderlust and that is probably a good thing for him. I do not know what house his moon is in because I do not know his actual birth time, when I did the birth chart for him I used unknown time of birth, and that is what showed up
Sag-sun
Cap-moon
Venus-Scorp
Mars-pisces
Mercury-Scorp
Jupiter-Pisces
Saturn-Sagittarius
Uranus-Sagittarius
Neptune-Capricorn
Pluto-Scorp
Lilith-Cancer
Asc node- Aries
what does all this mean? Anyone have any insight? Can you help out?

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A lot of mutable in his chart there! Maybe that makes it even harder for him to make a decision. I know that's not what you'd want to hear, but I'm going with my gut and what it feels to me, reading these aspects.

Cancer and Virgo. That would work. I'm a bit more worried about your moon and his Sagittarius placements. But his moon does trine yours, at least by sign, so if only he can find the courage to open up to you. Ahh yeah, the privacy here helps. So does having so many people here who know astrology so well. I totally trust their opinion. Wow, you've really put yourself out there for him. That takes a lot of courage and I hope he will tell you that someday. Shame about not knowing the house. Does it make any major aspects? A trine or sextile maybe? I've found that for my moon, I need a place or two (=houses or planets) where I can let my guard down. It may make it easier for him and you. It's good that you realize he could have worries about you, though. Oh, Sag and the need for adventure. My best friend is one and it squares my Virgo Venus. But to get back to you and your guy, some easy aspects can help here and even it out. Could you write them out for me?

Looking at the list... there's lots of water. Maybe a trine between his Scorpio and Pisces planets?

posted May 03, 2013 04:37 PM            

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Originally posted by meissieri:
Ahh, so you do have a touch of the driven, hard-working Cap moon in you. I think it'll help you understand him better. Does your career mean a lot to you? The self-control, oh yeah, I'm glad you say that. Makes me feel better about my moon sign and the reputation it has.

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posted May 03, 2013 04:51 PM            

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Originally posted by meissieri:

Hmm... I guess your Venuses are square? The surprises from his Uranus can be pretty exciting and bring some intensity, which you may like with your Venus. I don't have that Venus sign, so I'm only really commenting as an outsider. If I'm not prying here (I naturally take a step back with people who are private), do you feel like he has different values? Venus in Leo, nice! I think he'll want to give you a lot of attention, but the Capricorn influence holds back. I have a Leo sun, so I can relate. If anything, I bet he's impossible not to notice.

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posted May 04, 2013 03:50 PM            

Planet Aspect Planet Orb/Value
Sun Square Jupiter 1.53 -154
Sun Conjunction Saturn 0.02 167
Sun Conjunction Uranus 9.42 16
Moon Sextile Mercury 1.58 121
Venus Trine Mars 0.28 86
Venus Trine Jupiter 7.50 3
Venus Sextile Neptune 1.38 75
Venus Conjunction Pluto 2.20 258
Mars Conjunction Jupiter 8.17 113
Mars Sextile Neptune 1.10 114
Mars Trine Pluto 2.48 68
Jupiter Square Saturn 1.55 -92
Jupiter Trine Pluto 5.30 42
Saturn Conjunction Uranus 9.44 7
Neptune Sextile Pluto 3.57 1
1071 -246 825

N these are our planets together

Mark Aspect Brittni Orb/Value
Sun Conjunction Saturn 3.57 121
Moon Trine Moon 2.03 178
Moon Opposition Mars 2.45 -90
Moon Square Jupiter 1.25 -153
Mercury Sextile Moon 0.06 187
Mercury Square Midheaven 2.44 -35
Venus Sextile Neptune 0.13 70
Venus Conjunction Pluto 0.54 104
Mars Sextile Neptune 0.40 57
Mars Trine Pluto 1.22 53
Jupiter Trine Sun 3.44 73
Jupiter Trine Mercury 1.38 85
Jupiter Square Saturn 2.04 -81
Jupiter Trine Ascendant 2.47 52
Saturn Conjunction Saturn 3.59 69
Uranus Square Moon 0.46 -140
Uranus Conjunction Uranus 2.07 79
Uranus Trine Midheaven 1.52 25
Neptune Conjunction Neptune 1.50 73
Pluto Trine Sun 1.45 68
Pluto Trine Mercury 3.51 38
Pluto Conjunction Pluto 1.25 69
Pluto Conjunction Ascendant 2.43 73
1474 -499

posted May 05, 2013 12:00 AM            

QUOTE]Originally posted by meissieri:
I'm going to take another look at these aspects if that's okay. Right now I've seen some good.

This is the best article on Capricorn Moon I've read up till now. Most of it describes me and my feelings completely:
http://theastrologyplace.blogspot.nl/2010/10/moon-in-capricorn.html#.UYVonNmJqAU
Maybe this gives you both some more insight on that kind of mindframe. [/QUOTE]

posted May 07, 2013 05:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Freesia:
Omg, you are so right! I did not even realise that 10th house relates to Capricorn and so is my Moon in there Thank you for opening my eyes. Yes, a career means a lot to me. So does career of my man, it is so important that if necessery I would support him in his job in all ways I can. Self-controll is a highly valuable thing for me. I like this Moon position. Now even more as I realised the house issue.

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Ahh, that's really nice. I think this definitely matches with the Capricorn values. Having support is really important, well, to most people. For someone as achievement-oriented as him even more. And with your moon being so out in the open, I'd say he's picked up on it. I think it shows with you posting on here. That takes some courage, even more when it's about how you feel.

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Not even our Venuses are square but my Uranus is squaring his Venus aswell (0 orb). He gives me a lot of nice surprises. Like unexpected dates with exciting ideas how to spend time. I really like that, maybe because I have Venus conjunct Uranus in natal (wide one, 5 dg). I'm not sure yet about different values. We have common tastes in food, in movies and theaters. You are right that everyone is noticing him He is generous and has a big wide smile, very sincer person. That comes from Leo I guess. I have Leo MC, his Venus sits on my MC in exact conjunction, so if MC is a goal in persons life, I can relate that I'm kind of striving to him. I respect him in many ways and overall I like evtg about him.
But I feel also this holding back time to time as you say. When he texts or mails me he is more open to me that when we are together, then we talk about things like our jobs, friends or politics but he slips away when I try to talk about family or emotional values. Do you Cap Moons do ever talk about heart issues, feelings, despair or hurt? When he will gain my trust will he open up?

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Well, the opening up does take long, just read the replies from the other women here. I do need some time to get comfortable as well, even if I trust someone. The insecurity and fear of rejection is pretty big and it can seriously cripple me sometimes. A good female friend who is also a Cappy moon took about a year to start talking about the less superficial things to me. Don't worry about him not trusting you... it's usually not that simple. A lot of it has to do with clamming up just when you have to talk. It's like the pressure crushes you. Even worse when everyone else seems to do it so easily. I like that you mentioned the texting, as it's a really nice, "safer" way to approach things. I've used text as a vehicle to start talking as well.

His family too? Hmm. He could just be a private person or maybe he didn't have the best upbringing. One thing I think gives Capricorn away (doesn't have to be the moon) is very self-deprecating humour. Those little jabs at themselves, casually thrown in with a good dash of sarcasm. That's a nerve. Talking about it with a lot of detachment, such as through jokes, may be the easiest way for them to say it. Okay, that's what a lot of people who aren't very confident about something do, but maybe you've noticed it?

Both strong Uranus... again, you have a lot in common. Aww, the inspiration. He'd like that a lot. They like having someone who looks up to them.

posted May 07, 2013 06:25 PM            

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These are just his aspects for planets

Planet Aspect Planet Orb/Value
Sun Square Jupiter 1.53 -154
Sun Conjunction Saturn 0.02 167
Sun Conjunction Uranus 9.42 16
Moon Sextile Mercury 1.58 121
Venus Trine Mars 0.28 86
Venus Trine Jupiter 7.50 3
Venus Sextile Neptune 1.38 75
Venus Conjunction Pluto 2.20 258
Mars Conjunction Jupiter 8.17 113
Mars Sextile Neptune 1.10 114
Mars Trine Pluto 2.48 68
Jupiter Square Saturn 1.55 -92
Jupiter Trine Pluto 5.30 42
Saturn Conjunction Uranus 9.44 7
Neptune Sextile Pluto 3.57 1
1071 -246 825

N these are our planets together

Mark Aspect Brittni Orb/Value
Sun Conjunction Saturn 3.57 121
Moon Trine Moon 2.03 178
Moon Opposition Mars 2.45 -90
Moon Square Jupiter 1.25 -153
Mercury Sextile Moon 0.06 187
Mercury Square Midheaven 2.44 -35
Venus Sextile Neptune 0.13 70
Venus Conjunction Pluto 0.54 104
Mars Sextile Neptune 0.40 57
Mars Trine Pluto 1.22 53
Jupiter Trine Sun 3.44 73
Jupiter Trine Mercury 1.38 85
Jupiter Square Saturn 2.04 -81
Jupiter Trine Ascendant 2.47 52
Saturn Conjunction Saturn 3.59 69
Uranus Square Moon 0.46 -140
Uranus Conjunction Uranus 2.07 79
Uranus Trine Midheaven 1.52 25
Neptune Conjunction Neptune 1.50 73
Pluto Trine Sun 1.45 68
Pluto Trine Mercury 3.51 38
Pluto Conjunction Pluto 1.25 69
Pluto Conjunction Ascendant 2.43 73
1474 -499

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You're welcome. The link was just a start haha.

Let's see. Could you post the synastry wheel later? I'll try to comment without it anyway and see if anything fits.

Wow, look at all of those Jupiter trines in your synastry! You two must be lucky in some areas. In which houses do they fall? With his Sagittarius influence, I'm sure they help. Nice moon trine moon as well. It feels nice to be around him, like you said with opening up to him. Mercury sextile moon looks good too. Good, sincere communication may be of a lot of help here. I see the strong Pluto as well. Plenty of intensity there.

I'm a bit concerned about the Sun-Saturn. Maybe that's where some of your insecurity comes from. It could be good for something longer-lasting though. The Jupiter square Saturn sounds like the problem you've been talking about. Feeling like you can't really reach out to him as much as you'd like.
Wow, he has it in his own chart as well! He probably feels some conflict about freedom vs responsibility. The trines with Venus and Pluto are okay, but he has the Sun square too. Maybe he's a bit afraid (Saturn) he may give too much of himself all at once (Sun/Jupiter). That fits with the Venus and Pluto trines as well. Saturn could also stop him from going too far. His Venus sextiles his Neptune, so his idea on love is pretty idealised or actually not too clear yet.

Are the outer planet aspects generational?

Uranus-Midheaven (I think it's yours)? Does he have a unique view on you and your reputation or career? Maybe he comes with new, exciting things that will help you there?

I have the Saturn conjunct Uranus in my chart and for me it means I experiment and do my little rebelling within "safe" boundaries. When I do break some rules, it's for something I take seriously. They play off against each other and it may give a bit of a dilemma.

How does this all sound? Anything that clicks?

On a whole different topic...

posted June 02, 2013 04:36 PM            

The synastry turned out to be harder than I thought. I've got little ideas at the moment. I know this is not the kind of reply you would've liked, but I don't want to just wander off.

I do see a gorgeous grand water trine. I remember you said you open up to him, and maybe this shows why. The emotions flow naturally with these trines, especially with Pluto involved from both sides. Wow, even without your story I would've guessed this is intense! Your Venus falls into his 8th, I think? Again, there's no lack of passion and deep emotions there. He has Venus in Scorpio, so this matches your chart. You both value privacy and intimacy.