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Venus De Milo
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posted January 13, 2007 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I started to look up their birthdays to see what indicators of attractiveness they have, and honestly, without the birth time, it's kind of hard, because you can't see how their planets affect/interact with the ASC.

BUT...

What I did notice is that, predominantly... these models have a stark LACK of any Earth planets.

Allessandra Ambrosio - no earth planets, tightly conjunct sun/mars/venus stellium.

Ana Beatriz Barros - with the birthtime placed at 12 noon, it places her Moon at 5 of Virgo. Otherwise, no Earth planets. I'm betting she was born earlier that day, when the Moon was still in Leo.

Adriana Lima - no earth planets

Gisele Bunchen - she has a Jupiter & Saturn in earth planets.

What do you think?

Please don't take offence, I have Saturn in Virgo and the Sun and Mercury in Capricorn. The running theme of no Earth planets was just an intersting observation I wanted to share.

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posted January 13, 2007 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heidi Klum - also no earth, and lots and lots of Gemini.

I've noticed a running theme with lots of Gemini planets and placements amongst these models.

I didn't really set out to study them either! I read something about Allessandra Ambrosio being Brasilian, and I always thought she was Italian, due to her name... so I read her bio in Wikipedia and then decided to look up her chart... and noticed the stellium with no earth planets and decided to see what the other models had!

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posted January 13, 2007 03:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, Giselle is a Cancer sun/Cappy Asc...like meeeee I can see the saturn influence in her face.


But, carry on

Brasilians can be of all sorts of ethnicities due to the immigrant population BTW. Giselle Bundchen is also Brasilian/ half German.


SO Alessandra probably is of Italian descent.

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posted January 13, 2007 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All the other girls look sort of cutesy pretty, this soft beauty, while Gisele is fierce, she is different

So it makes sense that she has some Earth in her chart... and prominent Saturn if it is her ruling planet. To be honest, I haven't really made an effort to find any birth times!

Yeah, I realize Brazilians have lots of different backgrounds, but I actually thought Allessandra was Italian... like, from Italy!

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Dulce Luna
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posted January 13, 2007 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Correct me if I'm wrong but for some reason, I coulda sworn you were an Aqua.

Oh, and I actually thought Alessandra was straight from Italy too. I think she was dating or engaged to an Italian soccer player once...oh well.

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posted January 13, 2007 04:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:

I started to look up their birthdays to see what indicators of attractiveness they have

Wow! That's very creative of you! Keep up the good work! Ok?

Katie

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posted January 13, 2007 04:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dulce, I am an Aqua My chart is mostly Air and Earth (Saturn in Virgo, Moon & Mercury in Capricorn).

IamLove... thanks! When I looked up Allessandra's chart, her tightly conjunct sun/mars/venus stellium was such an obvious marker of attractiveness, I wondered if the other models had such obvious indicators of beauty in their charts too.

Other than a lack of Earth influence, the other thing I've noticed is that almost all of them have a personal planet tightly opposed Neptune, usually Venus (except for Adriana Lima, whose Sun opposes her Neptune).

And, the other thing I notice is there is almost always Gemini in the chart.

Kylie Minogue has a chart that is almost freakishly all Gemini if I remember correctly. Heavy Gemini influeces make one super gorgeous, hot hot hot! LOL.

Angelina Jolie is a Gemini and her beautiful baby Shiloh is a Gemini with prominent Venus in the chart... that child is so perfect she looks genetically engineered!

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posted January 13, 2007 06:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gisele Bundchen
Laetitia Casta (No Earth)
Petra Nemcova (No Earth)
All three have Neptune opposed Venus in their chart in a tight orb.

Heidi Klum has the Sun and Moon opposing her Neptune, and also the Sun, Moon, Saturn, Venus & Mercury in Gemini. No Earth.

Adriana Lima has the Sun opposing her Neptune. No earth.

Alessandra Ambrosio doesn't have the Neptune opposition, but Venus is opposed her Pluto.

Ana Beatriz Barros doesn't have the Neptune opposition, she has the trine with Venus and Venus is also opposed her Pluto. Time of birth wil give her either a Leo or a Virgo moon, so I'm unsure about whethe she has Earth planets or not.

Tyra Banks has only one Earth planet - Venus - which makes (not surprisingly) Venus prominent in her chart as it is a singleton. She doesn't have the Neptune opposition.

OK, now I have run out of steam... I will see if I feel like looking at more model charts tomorrow, heheh

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posted January 13, 2007 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm, interesting (I'm awake again! )


I think Adrianna and Tyra are very pretty. Alessandra...well, sometimes. (I think she's an aries btw, with a gemini stellium)


So you say Venus singletons are prominent in the chart? And that could be a factor in "beauty"? Thats good news for me because my venus is an air singleton!*cheers* LOL

I also have a neptune opposition, my mercury opposes my neptune.

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posted January 13, 2007 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I almost wonder if it's generational or cyclical? When you look back on the major supermodels of the 90's who graced the covers of all the magazines as well as the pages of Victoria's Secret, you get a very different mix. Many of the biggest models had their suns in earth signs:

Christy Turlington - Capricorn
Linda Evangelista - Taurus
Claudia Schiffer - Virgo
Kate Moss - Capricorn
Helena Christiansen - Capricorn

And others, were not without earth placements either:

Cindy Crawford - Venus in Cap, Uranus and Pluto in Virgo.

Stephanie Seymour - Jupiter, Uranus, and Pluto all in Virgo.

Is it possible that as the times have changed and a new generation has come forward our ideas of "beauty" have also changed? The big models in the late 80's and early 90's (with the exception of Moss) were all earthy and sensual....much more voluptuous with flowing hair and curves, curves, curves!

Now it seems the models take on that other-worldly, almost surreal look. Which would make sense then that air is the greatest influence in their charts.

Just a thought...

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posted January 13, 2007 11:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice approach!
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posted January 13, 2007 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep... Dulce... Prominent Venus in the chart denotes charm and beauty, especially with it's interacting with the ASC

With Tyra's chart, her earth Venus singleton just struck me, is all!

CrankyCap... YES! I agree, it must be generational, because while it didn't occur to me to look at the charts of the 80's supermodels... it did occur to me that the next crop of models will ALL have an Earth planet... Neptune in Capricorn! So I was kind of stewing on that while looking at all these charts and noticing the lack of earth

I agree, they all seem to have an ethereal, otherworldly kind of beauty, with crytalline eyes, sharp features, more angular bodies.

Isn't it strange how in the 80's the supermodels were considered "skinny".. and now we look back and they look downright CURVY compared to the runway models of today... the VS models look great, but the haute couture models, in my opinion... look hideous and starved. it's so strange to look back at Christy and Naomi and Claudia and think... wow... they had CURVES! It's crazy!

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posted January 13, 2007 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus - Another thing that I was thinking about is the difference in the models themselves, and their place in society. In the 90's the models were household names - they had money, prestige, power, fame, and security...all the things that the earth signs value. They were larger than life.

Nowadays, you RARELY see models on the covers of magazines...even the top fashion mags. Especially in the states. They've all gone to celebrities. Victoria's Secret has really become the ONLY avenue that the models have to make a name for themselves, where as before, Victoria's Secret was just a little something "extra" that some of them did. And, even with that, the only models that have really become household names are Gisele, Heidi, and Adriana...and that's all because of Victoria's Secret. And really, I don't think anyone would know who Petra was either if it wasn't for the Tsunami.

I bet it was the earth influence at the time that made the other girls so big.

There was something different about the "earth" models of the 90's too...they all had that apple pie, girl-next-door appeal about them. They didn't seem so untouchable. The girls now seem almost too surreal...like they were created out of the video game realm...know what I mean? Adriana and Gisele come to mind with that. Ice cold. Not really warm, friendly, or kind. Beauty and sex appeal but no charm...no real personality behind the eyes. Maybe it's just me, but that's how I see them...

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posted January 13, 2007 02:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Adriana is beautiful, but Gisele...not so much. Don't get me wrong, she has a great body but there's just something about her face that's very manly.

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posted January 13, 2007 02:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no Earth planets maybe I should see if they have a vacancy. I look good in a black lace teddy....er....anyway...

I want Adrianna's babies!

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posted January 13, 2007 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kate Moss is heinous looking....who the F hired her? Her and that Naomi Campbell girl....yeck.

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posted January 13, 2007 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mabe I should wait for the air with heavy water cycle fad to come around, than I'll be submiting portfolios left and right

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Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
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posted January 13, 2007 02:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Kate Moss is just gorgeous...all the models mentioned here are.
And also, isn't Laetitia Casta a Taurus?

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posted January 13, 2007 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes she is, May 11, 1978

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posted January 13, 2007 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with you there Dulce. I always thought Kate Moss was HIT! Never liked Campbell either...

In the 90's, Stephanie Seymour was IT for me. I thought she was perfect. I think Klum takes that title nowadays...

I'm with you BlueEyes...Gisele does have very masculine features.

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posted January 13, 2007 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, but on the other hand I forgot to mention that I think Claudia Schiffer and Cindy Crawford were gorgeous!


I'm curious to see what the models would look like if there was a "water trend". Partly because I'm mostly water myself.

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posted January 13, 2007 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about Jill Goodacre (Connick)?

March 29.1965
Sun Sign:Aries
Moon:Pisces
Asc.?

What Ascendant?.Anyone?.

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posted January 14, 2007 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cindy Crawford is mostly water She has like, 5 water planets, no fire, and three Singleton planets - Venus, Neptune & Jupiter.

I think she is my all time favourite model ever. She's just so amazing looking, just stunning. So classically beautiful. And every single thing I've ever heard about her personal life and personality, I have always liked.

I also like Gisele a lot. Her features are unusual, she looks different. her looks are not "ccokie cutter" at all. I like that!

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posted January 14, 2007 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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There was something different about the "earth" models of the 90's too...they all had that apple pie, girl-next-door appeal about them. They didn't seem so untouchable. The girls now seem almost too surreal...like they were created out of the video game realm...know what I mean? Adriana and Gisele come to mind with that. Ice cold. Not really warm, friendly, or kind. Beauty and sex appeal but no charm...no real personality behind the eyes. Maybe it's just me, but that's how I see them...

CrankyCap... agreed! 100%!

Couldn't have said it better myself!

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i think the earth signs are firmly grounded and would not use their beauty or talent in impractical areas of life.

i don't mean fashion is impractical, just that earth signs would use their charm in more useful areas like socializing and building a good PR profile.

those who take up to fashion probably have a good lot of leo or fire sign influence in general and the more glamorous dolls would likely have a good venus like in libra or leo.

sagittarius and aquarius being signs of creative talent and novelty would make up for fashion designers (or designers in general).

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