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MysticMelody
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posted January 23, 2007 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A Ritual for Starting Fresh
One day can change your life!

by M. McMahon
Published: 01/18/2007
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Starting fresh! Just saying the words makes one feel a little lighter.

But how to actually do it?

Here are a few tips for shaking out the lint from your life and energy and starting fresh.

First, take a day off work. That's right. Take a vacation day. You are going on a trip - for one day. You are going on a trip to your old energy and will come back to your new energy.

The night before, go to bed early in a bed with fresh sheets. Sleep just until the sun rises. It's a new day, the first new day of the rest of your new energy. Wake up, out of bed and ask the universe to show you what must drop away to realign your energy. Ask that it be clear and shine out to you so that you do not miss anything that must be shed. If you are able, take a walk for 10 minutes to get your heart going, so you are fully awake.

When you get back, see your living area with new eyes, and start packing things up. And, turn off your phone - you have work to do!

Clothes you haven't worn - out! VHS tapes you never watch - out! Magazines, old mail, whatever is in the corner of your closet - these are all objects that attract other objects. Every thing around you has energy - it IS energy because it is matter. By surrounding yourself with objects that have ceased their usefulness to you, you are slowing your own energy. Objects in motion stay in motion. Move stuff around.

You are your environment. You are what is around you. You are connected to everything and it is connected to you.

To start fresh, freshen your environment. Buy flowers, clean the windows, move the energy around you and your energy will shine out. Change is good. Change is growth. Change is the constant state of all living things.

As you move things around, just keep going. Try not to think of what you can't accomplish in one day, but rather what you have just completed. When lunchtime comes, quit cleaning. Eat a light lunch. It's time to go shopping.

Buy one single thing to mark today - something small and beautiful that you can take with you tomorrow. It doesn't have to be expensive. It can be a postcard, as long as you find it visually appealing, it will do just fine.

Touch the water. A nearby river, lake, or any body of water is suggested. Water is the symbol of rebirth and growth. It is one substance that embodies energy's flow and power. Even an indoor pool can inspire. Touch this water with your hand. It is your baptism. It is the end of your old energy and the start of the new. If you are landlocked, run your bath. Water heals in any form. Water takes energy and sends it back to you.

You have worked on your home, you have found a symbol of today and you have cleaned your energy by touching water with intention and hope. Go get a massage - you deserve it!

Our bodies store our energy in our muscles. When we are touched, that energy is released. The more our body relaxes, the more new, fresh energy can enter.

At the end of your trip, you have lost what you did not need and you have gained so much. With a clutter-fee home and a relaxed body, you are ready to face the world. When you go back to work, everyone will notice the change in you. And when pressures rise, touch that little object. Remember the water, remember you have started fresh.

This is from a newsletter from the place I get my daily horoscope.

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alanabelle86
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posted January 23, 2007 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
scratch that again..


Love Sag men

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shirty
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posted January 23, 2007 05:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
beautiful, MM

LOL alana, i can relate

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tuxedo meow
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posted January 23, 2007 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedo meow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my long and varied life,A SAG MAN IS THE BEST RIDE I EVER HAD anyday anyway-and while I haven't seen him for years, I could, and I'll bet a dollar for a donut, everything would be the same!!! Of course I have a Sag Moon...other men might have broken my heart if they had acted like this Sag. He was 100% all man, no games, taught me a lot about "Be here now"- I feel good just thinking about him!!!

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posted January 23, 2007 07:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, it isn't healthy, b/c ur destroying urself in the process. I've ignored him, pushed him away, and he's still in my mind as if nothing ever happened.

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posted January 23, 2007 11:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MM, would you mind sharing the website? That was wonderful. I've been through something similar recently and while I had a "ceremony" of sorts to leave the past where it belongs, this is something I will print out, keep in my journal, and share with friends.

Thank you ~

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posted January 24, 2007 09:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sagittarius

Sagittarius jupiter rules this sign and persons born under this sign will generally be inclined towards corpulence. Sagittarius possesses almond eyes and their hair is brown. They are of a phlegmatic temperament. Sagittarius are somewhat conventional and sometimes business like also. They are prompt and uphold conservative views. They will be attracted towards the study of occult philosophy and sciences. In these departments of knowledge Sagittarius can acquire mastery. They are too callous and enthusiastic. They hate all external show. Sagittarius are God-fearing, honest, humble and free from hypocrisy. They never think of schemes, which are calculated to disturb the progress of others. Sagittarius generally exercise control over their food and drinks but in regard to their relationship with the opposite sex restraint is called for. They are brilliant, their manners affable, winning and hearts, pure. Sagittarius are prone to be misunderstood unintentionally by others on account of their hastiness in conversation. In their later years they must be careful about their lungs as they are liable to suffer from rheumatic pains and the like. Combinations for political power warranting, persons born in Sagittarius sign will exercise power with firmness and justice and without yielding to corruptive influences.

SAGITTARIUS SUN : Short-tempered, spoils, reliable, rich, obstinate, respected by all, happy, popular, religious, wealthy, musician.

SAGITTARIUS MOON : Face broad, teeth large, skilled in fine arts, indistinct shoulders, disfigured nails and arms, deep and inventive intellect, yielding to praise, good speech, upright, help from wife and women, happy marriage, many children, good inheritance, benefactor, patron of arts and literature, ceremonial-minded, showy, unexpected gifts, author, reflective mentality, inflexible to threats.

SAGITTARIUS JUPITER : Pretty inheritance, wealthy, influential, handsome, noble, trustworthy, charitable, good executive ability, weak constitution, artistic qualities, poetic, open-minded, good conversationalist.

SAGITTARIUS MARS : Gentlemanly, many foes, famous minister, statesman, open, frank, pleasure loving, few children, liable to extremes, conservative, indifferent, exacting, impatient, severe, quarrelsome, litigation troubles, good citizen.

SAGITTARIUS MERCURY: Taste in sciences, respected by polished society, tall, well built, learned, rash, superstitious, vigorous, executive, diplomatic, cunning, just, and capable.

SAGITTARIUS VENUS : Medium height, powerful, wealthy, respected, impertinent, generous, frank, happy domestic life, high position, philosophical.

SAGITTARIUS SATURN : Pushful, artful, cunning, famous, peaceful, faithful, pretentious, apparently generous, troubles with wife, courteous, dutiful children, generally happy.

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Sagittarius

Sagittarius jupiter rules this sign and persons born under this sign will generally be inclined towards corpulence. Sagittarius possesses almond eyes and their hair is brown. They are of a phlegmatic temperament. Sagittarius are somewhat conventional and sometimes business like also. They are prompt and uphold conservative views. They will be attracted towards the study of occult philosophy and sciences. In these departments of knowledge Sagittarius can acquire mastery. They are too callous and enthusiastic. They hate all external show. Sagittarius are God-fearing, honest, humble and free from hypocrisy. They never think of schemes, which are calculated to disturb the progress of others. Sagittarius generally exercise control over their food and drinks but in regard to their relationship with the opposite sex restraint is called for. They are brilliant, their manners affable, winning and hearts, pure. Sagittarius are prone to be misunderstood unintentionally by others on account of their hastiness in conversation. In their later years they must be careful about their lungs as they are liable to suffer from rheumatic pains and the like. Combinations for political power warranting, persons born in Sagittarius sign will exercise power with firmness and justice and without yielding to corruptive influences.

SAGITTARIUS SUN : Short-tempered, spoils, reliable, rich, obstinate, respected by all, happy, popular, religious, wealthy, musician.

SAGITTARIUS MOON : Face broad, teeth large, skilled in fine arts, indistinct shoulders, disfigured nails and arms, deep and inventive intellect, yielding to praise, good speech, upright, help from wife and women, happy marriage, many children, good inheritance, benefactor, patron of arts and literature, ceremonial-minded, showy, unexpected gifts, author, reflective mentality, inflexible to threats.

SAGITTARIUS JUPITER : Pretty inheritance, wealthy, influential, handsome, noble, trustworthy, charitable, good executive ability, weak constitution, artistic qualities, poetic, open-minded, good conversationalist.

SAGITTARIUS MARS : Gentlemanly, many foes, famous minister, statesman, open, frank, pleasure loving, few children, liable to extremes, conservative, indifferent, exacting, impatient, severe, quarrelsome, litigation troubles, good citizen.

SAGITTARIUS MERCURY: Taste in sciences, respected by polished society, tall, well built, learned, rash, superstitious, vigorous, executive, diplomatic, cunning, just, and capable.

SAGITTARIUS VENUS : Medium height, powerful, wealthy, respected, impertinent, generous, frank, happy domestic life, high position, philosophical.

SAGITTARIUS SATURN : Pushful, artful, cunning, famous, peaceful, faithful, pretentious, apparently generous, troubles with wife, courteous, dutiful children, generally happy.

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Sagittarius

Sagittarius jupiter rules this sign and persons born under this sign will generally be inclined towards corpulence. Sagittarius possesses almond eyes and their hair is brown. They are of a phlegmatic temperament. Sagittarius are somewhat conventional and sometimes business like also. They are prompt and uphold conservative views. They will be attracted towards the study of occult philosophy and sciences. In these departments of knowledge Sagittarius can acquire mastery. They are too callous and enthusiastic. They hate all external show. Sagittarius are God-fearing, honest, humble and free from hypocrisy. They never think of schemes, which are calculated to disturb the progress of others. Sagittarius generally exercise control over their food and drinks but in regard to their relationship with the opposite sex restraint is called for. They are brilliant, their manners affable, winning and hearts, pure. Sagittarius are prone to be misunderstood unintentionally by others on account of their hastiness in conversation. In their later years they must be careful about their lungs as they are liable to suffer from rheumatic pains and the like. Combinations for political power warranting, persons born in Sagittarius sign will exercise power with firmness and justice and without yielding to corruptive influences.

SAGITTARIUS SUN : Short-tempered, spoils, reliable, rich, obstinate, respected by all, happy, popular, religious, wealthy, musician.

SAGITTARIUS MOON : Face broad, teeth large, skilled in fine arts, indistinct shoulders, disfigured nails and arms, deep and inventive intellect, yielding to praise, good speech, upright, help from wife and women, happy marriage, many children, good inheritance, benefactor, patron of arts and literature, ceremonial-minded, showy, unexpected gifts, author, reflective mentality, inflexible to threats.

SAGITTARIUS JUPITER : Pretty inheritance, wealthy, influential, handsome, noble, trustworthy, charitable, good executive ability, weak constitution, artistic qualities, poetic, open-minded, good conversationalist.

SAGITTARIUS MARS : Gentlemanly, many foes, famous minister, statesman, open, frank, pleasure loving, few children, liable to extremes, conservative, indifferent, exacting, impatient, severe, quarrelsome, litigation troubles, good citizen.

SAGITTARIUS MERCURY: Taste in sciences, respected by polished society, tall, well built, learned, rash, superstitious, vigorous, executive, diplomatic, cunning, just, and capable.

SAGITTARIUS VENUS : Medium height, powerful, wealthy, respected, impertinent, generous, frank, happy domestic life, high position, philosophical.

SAGITTARIUS SATURN : Pushful, artful, cunning, famous, peaceful, faithful, pretentious, apparently generous, troubles with wife, courteous, dutiful children, generally happy.

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Sagittarius

Sagittarius jupiter rules this sign and persons born under this sign will generally be inclined towards corpulence. Sagittarius possesses almond eyes and their hair is brown. They are of a phlegmatic temperament. Sagittarius are somewhat conventional and sometimes business like also. They are prompt and uphold conservative views. They will be attracted towards the study of occult philosophy and sciences. In these departments of knowledge Sagittarius can acquire mastery. They are too callous and enthusiastic. They hate all external show. Sagittarius are God-fearing, honest, humble and free from hypocrisy. They never think of schemes, which are calculated to disturb the progress of others. Sagittarius generally exercise control over their food and drinks but in regard to their relationship with the opposite sex restraint is called for. They are brilliant, their manners affable, winning and hearts, pure. Sagittarius are prone to be misunderstood unintentionally by others on account of their hastiness in conversation. In their later years they must be careful about their lungs as they are liable to suffer from rheumatic pains and the like. Combinations for political power warranting, persons born in Sagittarius sign will exercise power with firmness and justice and without yielding to corruptive influences.

SAGITTARIUS SUN : Short-tempered, spoils, reliable, rich, obstinate, respected by all, happy, popular, religious, wealthy, musician.

SAGITTARIUS MOON : Face broad, teeth large, skilled in fine arts, indistinct shoulders, disfigured nails and arms, deep and inventive intellect, yielding to praise, good speech, upright, help from wife and women, happy marriage, many children, good inheritance, benefactor, patron of arts and literature, ceremonial-minded, showy, unexpected gifts, author, reflective mentality, inflexible to threats.

SAGITTARIUS JUPITER : Pretty inheritance, wealthy, influential, handsome, noble, trustworthy, charitable, good executive ability, weak constitution, artistic qualities, poetic, open-minded, good conversationalist.

SAGITTARIUS MARS : Gentlemanly, many foes, famous minister, statesman, open, frank, pleasure loving, few children, liable to extremes, conservative, indifferent, exacting, impatient, severe, quarrelsome, litigation troubles, good citizen.

SAGITTARIUS MERCURY: Taste in sciences, respected by polished society, tall, well built, learned, rash, superstitious, vigorous, executive, diplomatic, cunning, just, and capable.

SAGITTARIUS VENUS : Medium height, powerful, wealthy, respected, impertinent, generous, frank, happy domestic life, high position, philosophical.

SAGITTARIUS SATURN : Pushful, artful, cunning, famous, peaceful, faithful, pretentious, apparently generous, troubles with wife, courteous, dutiful children, generally happy.

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posted January 25, 2007 09:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah thats me http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?rs=3&btyp=w2gw&&cid=ygqfileO34bcZ-u1168917225

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posted January 26, 2007 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Crabby Kitty, I need to get myself to bed. If I forget to get the link when I check my email tomorrow just bug me about it every chance you get!!! I'll remember soon enough!

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posted January 31, 2007 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jenfullmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What drives me nuts is that I have a Sag moon, but everything else in my chart is all about commitment.

Theoretically, I should get together with a Sag sun because of the his-sun-her-moon thing, but...Sag men don't commit! ARGH!

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posted January 31, 2007 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shirty well said!!!!


I'm a Sag female and I never was inclined to date my own kind after my first boyfriend- the Sag. Then again, I never took our relationship too seriously because we were only seniors in HS. I even told him 'I don't know why you are talking about the future, your my HS bf and when we move on we'll break up".

He wasn't happy with that. It was an adventure though- he'd break up with me before prom or winter formal just to see who could get a date the fastest- THEN - he'd intimidate my date LOL... what a goober.

I also have to agree that we are afraid of being trapped. I have no issues with commitment and I LOVE being married and see myself married to Bear the Leo until we both pass from this world- BUT... I hate feeling confined, trapped, stuck in a rut...etc...

It is important for a Sag to be with someone that will entertain ideas of "keeping it fresh". That doesn't mean "Hey let's go sky diving next week and race cars the week after that" It is more about simple surprizes, going away for a weekend just to see a little town or maybe skipping Monday night meatloaf for BLT's in bed while watching a movie (Bear and I do these things) - it means the two are open to learning together and having fun.

The ex-Virgo hubby was content eating the same lunch every day forever. He hated to travel and would rather pitter patter around the yard on weekends than take a trip to another town for the heck of it. UGH!!! The ex-Taurus fiance was the same. COUCH POTATO... that would scream 'FEED ME'.

It has less to do with their signs and more to do with their upbringing.

Sag needs to be with an energy filled go getter or else we get restless!!

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AHHHHHH i wish i hadn't found this post now. I have just started seeing a SAG for the past 2 months and things are going ok but now im nervous its all gonna go wrong. Is it just them or does it also depend on the other persons sign. Im
AQUARIUS - SUN
TAURUS - ACS
TAURUS - MOON
Not sure what his other placements are!
Dont tell me its dead before it even starts.
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posted February 01, 2007 02:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From personal experience, my most challenging relationship was with an Aqua. Interesting with lots of fireworks (fights), took a long time to get over. He was all up on freedom, his freedom that is. When it came to my freedom, he wanted to rein me in. We Sags must have our breathing space, or else we'll wither and die like a flower w/o water. What I don't get is when some people try to "change" or "fix" us. Our independent self attracts like bees to honey. Then when things start getting serious, that same quality is a turn-off that must be fixed????? That has happened to me way too many times, and I still don't get it. Maybe it is the challenge of trying to tame the wild horse part of us. You see, you can't fix our nature. We just are. We'll follow you to the end of the world, if we want to and if we want to be with you. Yes, when someone finally understands us and doesn't try to change us we are loyal.

I have been with my Crab for more than three years now. His Sag Moon gives me this freedom to be just me, and not what he thinks I should or should not be. We have our own friends and interests, an we still make time for each other. Our time together is much more meaningful because we do have outside avenues. I'd imagine we'd be bored stiff if all we had was each other. Like Pid described, with and Archer you just have to make things fun. I'm glad that his Sag Moon feels the same way, because he is very open to just get up and seize the moment like I am.

As for dating a Sag male, that has never happened to me. I have a Sag male friend, but we are too much alike to ever be romantically attracted. When we get annoyed at each other, the arrows go back and forth. And those arrows can be sharp. Times like those, we bring out the worst qualities in each other. If we were together, we'd spend half the day competing and the other fighting.

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posted February 01, 2007 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GrlyGirl,

Speaking as a man with
Sun/Venus in the 9th,
Sun/Venus Square Jupiter,
Moon/Juno opposition Jupiter,
Mars/Mercury in Sagittarius,
and Jupiter in the 7th house...

I think, telling you to block him might be his way of saying, "Look, if you are unhappy in this relationship, you need to take responsibility for it yourself, and block me. I am not unhappy, so it is not my place to block you. Don't blame me if you cant take responsibility for your own involvement in this."

But I don't know the whole story,
I am just suggesting one possibility.

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