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Author Topic:   HELP! Taurus man driving me crazy! Am I wasting my time?
Anitchka
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posted January 26, 2007 09:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heeelp! I have the same problem like Dreamybecca....only worse!
Not only that this Taurus man (27/04/1969) had a gf but he also married her when he was already dating me!
I knew he had a gf and demanded that before we start he should break up with her. He agreed, told me that they have problems anyway and that he is trying to escape from her (she is Pieces) and indeed broke up with her.
We started dating but I am not very fast in getting close to people - I usually need time and didn't move in with him immediately, although he wanted me to. He was upset and after a three-day long thinking (I was away), he decided to get back to her and get married. During all the engagement he wouldn't stop calling me, telling me he missed me, etc. But he married anyway saying that he has promised her family already and that it would be painful to have to explain to so many people that he wants to cancel the wedding. His wife came to our city to live with him and he would call me at night to talk with me while she was sleeping! He got even more persistent than before. He would even leave their home and spend the night with me. I knew I shouldn't do this but I liked him too much to resist. Then I left for 3 months to live in Italy, received incessant messages, he even came to spend a week with me and when I returned they were "almost" broken up. I got back with him, after him promising to make amends.....and guess, after a while he got back to her AGAIN!
He says he loves me and that it is tearing him apart but he "has to make his marriage work". Now he is leaving for another country to be with his wife. But is still writing me soppy messages, crying over the phone and trying to make love with me.
It is sooo stupid of me but I can't get over him and hope his living apart from me will finally get him to leave his wife and come back to me. Is it really hopeless?


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CrankyCap
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posted January 26, 2007 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going to try and be as nice in this response as I can, but WHAT are you doing?? What are you thinking???

There are so many bad things about this I don't know where to begin. Taurean men that cheat don't just have one night stands - usually. They typically carry on several relationships at once. This is more hurtful to all parties than if they just screwed around briefly with a lot of women. When I was dating my Taurus I was in the position that your man's Pisces girlfriend is in. I cannot begin to tell you how much that fu*king hurts the girl that was there first. I developed an ulcer and lost 30 lbs. Have you thought even once about this Pisces girls' feelings??? Do you honestly think that she doesn't love this guy just as much if not more than you do?

Also, have you stepped back and thought about the guy himself??? Obviously, he's a little messed up. Haven't you considered the fact that even if he did leave this girl for you, do you think he could be faithful to you? Infidelity is like a disease. You have to WANT to stop, and make an effort to work on it. Remember, Taurus men hate change and breaking patterns more than any other sign.

I apologize if I've come across harshly here, but I have absolutely NO tolerance for this type of behavior. I have NEVER had a problem walking away from a man that I found attractive the second I found out he was with someone else...girlfriend, wife, or otherwise.

I think you should be greatful that this man is leaving the country with his wife. Not so that he'll come back to you, but so that you can cut the ties and finally try to move on. This man isn't worth the dog crap on the bottom of your shoe - or anyone else's shoe. Get rid of him, and do some karmic healing of your own.

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hippichick
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posted January 26, 2007 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You obviously have a soul connection and karma with the Bull~~~try seeing it as that and correct past karma and not generating any future negative karma with him and the Fish by blessing him and sending him on his way.

I do understand the connection, I DO!

Been there with a Bull recently, same situation with the gf.

CC stated all of the humanistic and realistic aspects of this dilemma of yours quite nicely so I will not go there.

But I will reiterate~~~they are FIXED and stubborn and quite habitual.

Did it with you will do it to you...

If I were you I would leave it be for the Fish chick in support of my sister. I would send her all of the love and light that I could muster. I guarantee you she is already hurting and likely knows of his escapades, for I am a Fish chick as well...

When I let mine go, I told him I would not want this done to me....

He is a confused, fixed Bull, who probably likes the attention of multiple women and does what he needs to to keep his heard intact... and likely he will never change. Do you really want to be in the position of the Pisces???

Let the dude go~~~~

Blessings

Terri

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BlueEyes24
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posted January 26, 2007 11:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"and hope his living apart from me will finally get him to leave his wife and come back to me."

Alright from a non-astrological point of view....RUN FAST! But why on earth would you even want to be with him if he left his wife, which he probably won't? He obviously didn't care THAT much about you in the first place, or he would be with you now, no questions asked. He re-married his wife for a reason....but I feel bad for his wife too. I'm not trying to sound mean here, but there's a man out there who will treat you with the respect you deserve...and he isn't it.

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sthenri
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posted January 26, 2007 12:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He's attracted to all the changes in you, living in Italy, moving around..because he wants to make changes in himself he can't. I don't know about Taurus that cheats because although I am very tempted to be with another man I broke off all contact with all I know in that way when I agreed to try a relationship with the Pisces. Now I am very tempted all the time but I can still push others away physically. Emotionally it's hard but it's not fair to me or others.

I don't know why Taurus has such a bad reputation. it's a man thing, or a culture, or he was brought up that way first, I can't imagine why he would want to hurt his wife that way. Pisces people are very sensitive and yes they always know if something is wrong. It's demoralizing and hurtful and I can't disrepect anyone sensitive such as myself.

Maybe this Taurus man does not know he has emotions or believe in love, preferring money or power but even poeple in power love attention and adoration.

Adoration and wanting to be liked is not the same thing as loyalty which takes honesty.

It's too bad really, but yes do leave him alone and do not tempt this man anymore. He is obviously weak in his mind and body, let him heal somewhere else and do not take his calls-one day he'll work it out on his own. After all faithful love is the foundation of a family, of everything, without that there is nothing worth living for. (okay extreme I know). Still, people I know who live that way I are very happy for real, and achieve more in their lives than anyone else.

I do not believe there is a grey area here anymore. The more powerful people I meet, the more I see those who are bound by loyalty, and that includes physical loyalty. What could be simpler if you are not rich than being loyal to your wife or husband? Why be a playboy or playgirl? Its' pathetic and arrogant to assume others do not know. It eats away at other's respect for you and your own dignity. Why not make it easier on yourself and rise above the heartache.

Sometimes heartache can substitute for real love because then you feel something but real love is out there.

The pisces I am with struggled so much at the start with infidelity but neither of us have ever cheated on each other. And we have struggled with this in the past with others. i once lashed out at him and I was going out to be with another man, he was so hurt he told me was with another woman. We hurt so much we promised to never do that again and I trust that he won't-because he trusts me and is not angry at me anymore. Whether or not he respects me remains to be seen. But I won't let him play that card with me and vice versa, nor will I let us get bored.

It's a fine line but there is no choice but to get involved in it, going outside the marriage or relationship is numbing yourself to what's going on inside, and there is plenty to do, lots of love to make, it's waiting there to be appreciated. If I can't be faithful in this relationship, I can't be faithful in any relationship. Its' not him, it's my choice and it gives me happiness. When I believe that he does not want that, I get frustrated but he calls me so that's good and I bank on that for a while anyway.

When I feel he does not want to be with me anymore I will find someone else who is faithful to me and go on from there. There is no other way, this rule can't be broken. I make love instead of war with him because inside I want to rebel and fight but when I feel that, I remember the golden rule.

I must maintain him to keep him. Especially since I'm the one who wants him most of the time. Even if I am very unhappy one day a week, it's not enough to be punishing.

Natasha
Taurus 6th house Sun trine Pluto

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CrankyCap
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posted January 26, 2007 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trust me, Hippiechick is right, his Pisces wife knows. I'm a Pisces mooner myself, and I knew the INSTANT my Taurus cheated. I sensed it. He was 1500 miles away and I felt it. My intuition was proven to me 2 months later. She knows. End it now, find a man who can really love you and redeem yourself.

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Happy Dragon
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posted January 27, 2007 05:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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sthenri
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posted January 27, 2007 09:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Sag Mars in the 1st house and lots of fire in my chart Venus, Chiron, Ascendant. And I don't cheat.

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posted January 27, 2007 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mind had Mars in Virgo and even "The Virgin"
herself did not stop him~~~

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Anitchka
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posted January 27, 2007 01:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks to all for the replies.

I didnt mean to appear as some kind of families breaker....I do try to leave him, even ran away from him in Italy but he keeps coming back and I can't help it cause he is like the man I've always wanted. And I dont mean physically. Besides, the things we have been thru during this time are really weird (like he saving my life, for instance)
May be I should have also given a little background to the whole thing - Pieces girl and he had been together for 9 years, the last 5 living in different countries and seeing each other once in a blue moon.And this was a deliberate choice of his to leave the country they were being together for 4 years without her and live without her abroad. The reason he finally made the decision to move in back with her was because her family is rich...During the first 5 months of their marriage when they were living together, the first 2 were OK, the second 3 (when I was in Italy) led to them splitting up and her leaving the country. In a pervert way, it is like I have to be around for their marriage to work....
And I dont know what kind of love is that when you don't want to constantly be with the person you love...?

Happy Dragon, thanks for the info : ) I am new to astrology, could you please explain to me his planets. Thanks

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katipo
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posted January 27, 2007 01:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have some self-respect and find someone who is free to love you who you can freely love, surely some guy creeping into your bed at night, smelling of his wife & home, couldn't have turned you on. (I mean YUCK!)

He keeps coming back 'cos he can, tell him he can't anymore! it's that simple.

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Happy Dragon
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posted January 27, 2007 02:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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InLoveWithLife
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posted January 27, 2007 02:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anitchka, probably it wud be more instructive to look at your chart as well....
most of the times, the 'problem' is not another person who keeps doing it 'to us', but ourselves who let them do it. in any relationship, both the people are responsible for the way it evolves.
try to look into your own heart...why is it that this guy has such a hold over you. and why you feel that he is the only one for you.
it is ultimately up to you where this relationship goes. but you asked this forum for advice. and you have it. you can see what the majority has to say. i know it can be very hard to trust others when you feel so strongly about a person. but, oftentimes others can look objectively at a situation and see what we are unable to see, being caught up in it.
please think over why everyone here unanimously said that the guy is bad news.
and as i said, if you cud post your birthdata, we cud try to help u understand the situation a little better.


ILWL

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sthenri
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posted January 27, 2007 05:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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hippichick
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posted January 27, 2007 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
""Taurus is ruled by Venus and that is about love and caring, not just servicing someone with sex. Taurus likes security but it doesn't sell sex. Taurus is never that cold, when a Taurus cheats its' usually about what he or she feels is love.""

I like that, Natasha~~~

Thank you for restoring the positive energy of my past connection with Bull man....

Terri

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Anitchka
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posted January 29, 2007 09:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks HappyDragon and InLoveWithLife!
I appreciate your responses as they are the ones really helpful for an impartial insight into the situation.

"in the main yer guy is sort of being 'thrown about' ... " - HappyDragon, I think that sounds exactly like him! As is the thing with "marriage" for security.

OK, my data: born 16 December 1975, 2030hrs in Bulgaria

Will really appreciate your advice when you can :-)

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Happy Dragon
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Anitchka
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posted January 29, 2007 11:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Happy Dragon

I started dating the Taurus on 11 November 2004

I also know that my south node is in his sun sign (don't know what that means though...)

Could you "translate" these for me please - how this affect us

"you both at the moment have a Chiron transit to your respective natal Venus'"

"by mid march that Chiron transit to venus will be gone ..
.. you are getting it via a 'square' aspect ..

transiting Neptune is also starting to square your scorpio north node..

and .. transiting Lillith is conjoining your natal Pluto placement while at the same time she is opposing his natal Venus placement .. ( Lillith transits last about 10 days or so ) ."

Thanks a million
Anitchka

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Happy Dragon
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Anitchka
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posted February 01, 2007 06:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, thanks a lot Happy Dragon - that definitely made the whole messed-up situation a lot clearer!

"Fated" is exactly how I feel...If it has anything to do with the transits on 11/11/2004...?

I'll do some further research and try to see what transits are in store for us (as I know him well enough to perdict how will he react to these, if I can interpret them myself correctly).

Thanks again Happy Dragon - it was very illuminating

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