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neptune5
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posted February 11, 2007 05:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
which astrological aspects, positions, as well as natal fixed stars links and conjuncts indicate the femme fatal?

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Virgo Rising 8'57, Sagittarius Sun/4thH 3'26, Pisces Moon/6thH 8'22

"Our passions are not too strong, they are too weak. We are far too easily pleased." - C.S. Lewis

"Beauty is eternity gazing at itself in a mirror." - Kahlil Gibran

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Belage
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posted February 11, 2007 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd say Pluto conjunct, trine or sextile Venus.

Sometimes, Pluto square Venus might create femme fatale tendencies.

If a woman has a Venus/Mars/Pluto configuration, she might be irresistible.

If she has Sun or Venus in the first house, with Pluto conjunct or trine this sun or Venus, she might also be a femme fatale.

Anyway, I think PLuto is involved in some way.

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Dove
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posted February 11, 2007 06:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the wedge aspect pattern with all three of those planet...venus 8th,pluto 2nd & mars 10th... and I've never thought of myself as a femme fatale...lol
plus they all aspect my AC also creating the cradle aspect pattern
hmmmmmm...maybe others see me that way, as the femme fatale, who knows...


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and then the lord said let there be crazy people, and he saw that it was.......oh crap..........this is not good.........ummmm...cough,cough I didn't do this.. ummmm Luna whats wrong with you, why'd you make these people crazy
Luna: WHAT?!? your not going to pin this on me!
God: cough cough and then the lord dubbed the crazy people Lunatics
Luna: WHAT?!?!!!! don't name them after me!
Luna: and why are you talking about yourself in the third person
God: God can do what ever he wants to do, Muahahahahah
Luna: I hate you....sigh...I'm never going to live this down

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aquaspryt69
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posted February 11, 2007 06:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus conj Asc, loose Trine to Pluto in Virgo and Mars squaring both from Aquarius.

No femme fatale here and certainly no super model otherwise you'd see me on America's Next Top Model!!

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House-elf
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posted February 13, 2007 05:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have pluto square to a sun-venus conjunction.

Although venus is loosely conjunct asc, I'm not beautiful. I'd love to be, and I'm definitely a femme fatale wannabe. I do think I have some sexyness and I'd like to use it. I'm not very good at social relations so I'd like to show off (leo) and get noticed. I'm also very interested in the opposite sex. Pluto makes you obsessive.

and hi by the way, new here as you can see, it's my first post

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sinderlou
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posted February 13, 2007 06:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi
house-elf!

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CoralFrequency
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posted February 13, 2007 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lots of Scorpio planets maybe!

Belage, I have a Venus/Mars/Pluto thing.. Venus trine Mars. Mars sextile Pluto. Pluto opposite Venus. I'm not a femme fatale lol

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shirty
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posted February 13, 2007 08:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus conj Pluto in Scorpio, both trine Mars in Pisces.

I don't think of myself as irresistable but I do get a lot of people after me.. dunno if it's because of those placements though.

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sue g
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posted February 13, 2007 08:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pluto trine Venus and five planets in Scorpio

which means I probably have the potential to be one

I know I am very sensual and sexual especially with moon in taurus added....

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eatbooks
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posted February 13, 2007 10:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sue- dont you mean pluto sextile your venus? from what i remember it was venus in scorpio/pluto virgo..


yes venus aspecting pluto makes since especially oppositions/squares.
scorpio energy. mars aspecting pluto. pluto aspecting AC. pluto in the 5th(sex/romance), or 8th(sex,life,death,transformation).

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neptune5
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posted February 13, 2007 11:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well the femme fatale is not actually the most seductive or top thing, its a woman who's sexually submissive, and will make any sacrifice to please their lovers, that tops the femme fatale a thousandfold. Femme fatales put too much empahsis on their looks. Anyone can ooze sensuality, but it makes all the difference when one knows what to do with it, and thats what FF lack.

I have venus conjunct part of fortune conjunct black moon lilith in my IC, so i could fall in that category by probability.

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"Our passions are not too strong, they are too weak. We are far too easily pleased." - C.S. Lewis

"Beauty is eternity gazing at itself in a mirror." - Kahlil Gibran

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sue g
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posted February 13, 2007 12:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks eatbooks...yes you are right..

I dont think a femme fatale is submissive at all.....I think she is sexually powerful....she is the initiator, the dominator if anything.....

that's my feeling anyway....

she has men falling at her feet and not she at theirs?

and no not anyone can ooze sensuality...I have met many over the years who have very unsensual natures...?

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted February 13, 2007 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what the hell is the femme fatal?


~KEvin

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Dulce Luna
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posted February 13, 2007 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about moon in aspect to pluto or moon in scorpio/8th house. I don't think I am a femme fatale (I'm too shy ) but I think I give off the impression that I am. Everybody seems to get the wrong ideas about me..LOL.

And neptune, I don't think femme fatales are submissive, in fact they're supposed to be sexually powerful.

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sue g
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posted February 13, 2007 01:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes they are very sexually powerful!!

Dear Sweet Kevin....

Femme fatale

Library > Words > Dictionary
femme fa·tale (f?m' f?-t?l', -täl', f?m')
n., pl. femmes fa·tales (f?m' f?-t?l', -t?lz', -täl', -tälz', f?m').

A woman of great seductive charm who leads men into compromising or dangerous situations.

An alluring, mysterious woman.

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katipo
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posted February 13, 2007 01:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus 20deg Taurus, trine Pluto 20deg Virgo, and have led many men into compromising and dangerous situations .....


hahahhah....ok not really, I think the fact I was serving them alcohol in a bar made them fall madly in lurve with .....the beer

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amisha121877
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posted February 13, 2007 02:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how about carmen (558) in the chart?

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posted February 13, 2007 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stargazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
synonyms would include:

enchantress, seductress, siren, temptress.

When I think of femme fatale I think of the Aries woman. Or a woman with Aries in one or more of the big three...
Usually likes the lead.. and although not always feminine (Mars will do that), definitely heaven and h*ll adorned in high heels...
Also Venus quintile Mars is a very seductive aspect for a woman to have...would give one a seductive charm.

edit to add:

I'm thinking Kelly LeBrock "Woman in Red" or the woman who played Xena, Warrior Princess.. was that Lucy Lawless? or even Elle McPherson... all Aries I believe.

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Dove
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posted February 13, 2007 03:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
femme fatale an irresistibly attractive woman, esp. one who leads men into difficult, dangerous, or disastrous situations; siren.

[Origin: < F: lit., fatal woman]

1. A woman of great seductive charm who leads men into compromising or dangerous situations.
2. An alluring, mysterious woman.

a woman who is considered to be dangerously seductive


I would definatly put that as a sexually powerful woman....think Lilith....yah lilith
and scopios

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neptune5
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posted February 13, 2007 04:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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and no not anyone can ooze sensuality...I have met many over the years who have very unsensual natures...?

sue,
anyone can at least try to be sensual, or try to be a femme fatale.

sue and Dulce,

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I dont think a femme fatale is submissive at all.....I think she is sexually powerful....she is the initiator, the dominator if anything.....

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And neptune, I don't think femme fatales are submissive, in fact they're supposed to be sexually powerful.

did you listen to what i said, let me put it into more tangible words

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a femme fatale is not actually the most seductive concept, the most seductive concept would be a woman who's sexually submissive, and will make any sacrifice to please their lovers, that tops the femme fatale a thousandfold. Femme fatales put too much empahsis on their looks (just like you said, sexually aggressive). A real femme fatale can and is supposed to ooze sensuality, but it makes all the difference when one knows what to do with it, and thats what Femme fatale's lack.

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Virgo Rising 8'57, Sagittarius Sun/4thH 3'26, Pisces Moon/6thH 8'22

"Our passions are not too strong, they are too weak. We are far too easily pleased." - C.S. Lewis

"Beauty is eternity gazing at itself in a mirror." - Kahlil Gibran

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neptune5
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posted February 13, 2007 04:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I would definatly put that as a sexually powerful woman....think Lilith....yah lilith
and scopios

i have venus conjunct black moon lilith

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sue g
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posted February 13, 2007 04:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
trying to be something and actually being something are two COMPLETELY different things...

Neptune, no offence....you are a young girl...

A femme fatale is usually a full blooded woman who has experience in the game of love...

Maybe when you have lived a little longer, you will gain more understanding of this?

Maybe....?

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neptune5
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posted February 13, 2007 04:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your absolutely correct, Sue G. Wonderful.

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Dove
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posted February 13, 2007 04:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cough cough...shhhhhhh...
do you think if I offerd a few free tarot readings that I would become swamped with requests?
I'm trying to kick my reading skills up a notch,so I need to practice more, meaning I need a few test victims...

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neptune5
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posted February 13, 2007 04:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you can try on me..would love a reading...

(i actually own a deck but,...lol)

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Virgo Rising 8'57, Sagittarius Sun/4thH 3'26, Pisces Moon/6thH 8'22

"Our passions are not too strong, they are too weak. We are far too easily pleased." - C.S. Lewis

"Beauty is eternity gazing at itself in a mirror." - Kahlil Gibran

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