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Iqhunk
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posted May 25, 2007 05:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DarkDreamer wrote:

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You mentioned that Union conjunct NN is an excellent thing to have. What exactly is the meaning of "Union"? >>

Union rules the subtleties of marriage, business tie ups and so on.


<<Hmm, I had a look at this guy`s and my draconic charts and feel quite overwhelmed with the interaction going on there. But maybe that`s normal with Draconic charts. >>
It is normal with them only when the two souls owe huge karmic debts to each other, whether positive or negative.

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His Draconic Moon trine my natal Amor (1)
His Draconic Amor trine my natal Moon (1)
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Clearly destined to love for spiritual progress and to take you both away from past life weaknesses.


<<His Draconic Venus trine my natal NN (0)
My Draconic Venus conjuncts his natal SN >>
Evidence of a fated match from the past lifeline.

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His Draconic Osiris conjuncts my natal Isis (0)
My Draconic Osiris trines his natal Isis (2)
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EXCELLENT!!!!

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HIs Draconic VAlentine opposite my natal Psyche (1)
My Draconic VAlentine opposite his natal Psyche (0)
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Very good placement to build love tension and huge inner attraction. I love this placement.

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His Draconic Venus conjuncts my Draconic Chiron (0)
My Draconic Venus conjuncts his natal Chiron (1)
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Indicative of love wounds caused to each other in the past lifeline.

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His Draconic Mars conjuncts my draconic Moon
His Draconic Mars conjuncts my natal SN and DC
My Draconic Isis and Osiris conjunct his natal SN
My Draconic Venus conjunct his natal SN
(a hint to a shared past life maybe?)

His Draconic Valentine trines my Draconic Venus (0), trines my natal Sun and conjuncts my draconic PoM
HIs Natal VAlentine conjuncts my draconic Mars, AC and Amor

My Draconic Amor trines his draconic AC, sextiles his draconic Karma and trines his natal Eros

HIs Draconic Osiris conjuncts my natal Venus, Isis and Osiris

His Draconic AC conjuncts my draconic Nadir
HIs Draconic AC conjuncts my natal Eros

His Draconic Sun opposite my natal Sun
His Draconic Psyche conjuncts my natal Moon (0)
His Draconic Sun trines my natal Psyche

His Draconic Eros squares my natal Eros (0)
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All are pretty much valid and indicative that you have found someone very special. Explore this relationship with your full commitment and please educate him too about this. Many girls here fail to educate their partners about the fatedness of the relationships and hence the material world casts a spell on the men folk who think a woman who is coming on strongly should be avoided, and move away from their true loves.

<<Did I leave out any important asteroids?
And how should I judge those aspects? Maybe it`s quite ususal to have this kind of draconic interaction, and it`s nothing special.
So, what do you think? Is there something going on, maybe even on a very subtle level, or am I only overimaginative? >>

There are no coincidences, only design. The Draconic asteroid links prove beyond doubt that you and your man have a very well knit soul contract going on.


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His Venus is square my Lust
My Venus is sextile his Lust
And interestingly, his Venus and Lust fall into his 1st house, and my Venus and Lust fall into my 1st house (Lust is conjunct Mars, ASC and NN in my case). >>
That is very lusty and very fortunate as love and lust flow together here.

<<Venus is ruler of his 8th house and Venus is ruler of my 5th house. Just a little detail, but it sounds very "lusty".
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8th connected to lust is an astrological misconception. The rogue occultists who mind controlled most astrologers in the 20th century swapped 10th house and 8th House, as well as 6th and 12th. 5th is very much lusty and the 10th is quite lusty too. Scorpio rules the sex organs, drive and executing a business/career. The drive for career is similar as sex drive, we earn to procreate more according to our genetic programming.

People with strong 10th Houses who study astrology think it is Capricornian and suppress their desires. 8th House Saturnian folk who should be more "Saturnine" and responsble instead think they are very dark and occult and tantrik or gothic, thereby confusing themselves. 8th House = Capricorn at its Saturnine Best ruling the establishment, death, legal heirships, taxes, meag corps, and cabalistic control groups. It might rule transformation too.


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Diandra23
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posted May 25, 2007 07:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi

how/where can we do the Draconic harts for ourselves?

Thankx

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izodesmozina
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posted May 25, 2007 10:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diandra, hi there!

Here are a few articles on the matter:
http://www.mysticempowerment.com/draconic.htm
http://www.solsticepoint.com/dragontxt.htm
http://www.astrologycosmobiology.com.au/draconic_chart.html

You can calculate it using http://www.noendpress.com/pvachier/arabicparts/index.php
Place Aries 00:00 in the first place, what you are interested to know (Sun, Asc etc) in the second and the position of the Nodes in the third place.
It is very important to see if there are any draconic planets conjuncting your natal Asc, as they can tell a lot about the destiny your soul chose. I have Mercury, Vesta and Isis conjunct my natal Asc - I am supposed to be a witty wife, totally devoted to her loved ones. It rings very well with me!!

Question for everybody: which Node do you use? Mean or True?

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Diandra23
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posted May 25, 2007 10:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Izo

Thankx for the help.
hmm, it´s the arabic´s calculator,which we used in that other thread about the arabic parts in sinastries

I´ve understood the part where i always put the aries00 then the pllanet i want and then the node,right?
But above, in the area that says which "arabic part" Is - what should i choose? or it doesnt matter as long as i put the planets you said?

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izodesmozina
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posted May 25, 2007 10:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It doesn't matter .

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posted May 25, 2007 11:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


Thankx Izo
Im gonna pass some time here on finding new things that´s great

Are you OK?
Today my bf is gonna come here my house for the weekend!! Im so happy

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izodesmozina
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posted May 25, 2007 11:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

OMG! I'm so happy for you!!! Oh honey, get off the Internet and prepare for meeting your sweetie! This is fantastic!!! I saw you guys have some very nice aspects there in the Karma thread! Congratulations!!!!

I'm ok, I've had a couple of exams these days, have another few in the weeks to come, so I'll keep myself busy studying... this means less LL time .

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Diandra23
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posted May 25, 2007 12:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dont worry cause your exams will gonna be just fine i wish you the best luck on those.

Yeah i´ve got everything ready for him of course,i´ve almost didnt sleep this night hihihi

Going to pick him up on the train station soon.
I was very happy indeed by seeing what Iqunk said..he knows so much about asteroids.

See you next week dear Izo (this weekend my ney is going to have vacation hihihi)


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posted May 26, 2007 05:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQhunk,

thank you for taking so much time with my Draconic charts.
But before I will answer to it, I feel I have to clear something up a little bit. I`m sorry if I evoked the impression I had a relationship with this man.
I don`t have one and I guess, I will never have one.
It`s actually the horoscope of an actor. You could say just a celebrity-crush. The only problem is, usually I "choose" my celebrity-crushes. In this case I didn`t have a choice. Actually I tried to avoid his films for years. The first time I heard his name it was interestingly when I tried out a biorhythm calculation, and it said that he was one of the best matches for me (98%), which probably only means that we would feel well at the same times, nothing more. But from that moment on I avoided his films, not consciously though. Everytime someone tried to pull me along to watch his films (and there have been a LOT of opportunities), I just became sick or rather had some kind of panic-attacks, and I didn`t go there.
Except for that one time, when my friend "forced" me to go to the cinema, because she wanted to see the film and realized quite quickly that I was just being "neurotic" for what reason ever.
HOwever, seeing him on screen knocked me completely off of balance. When I became aware of the HUGE emotional impression he made on me, I got absolutely scared and kept on avoiding his films again. Ùsually I like to read a lot about actors I like; in this case I just refused to learn more about him.
Well, and then last year in october the dreams of him began. Not one or two, but almost every night, and they felt different than other dreams; they almost had "mythological" dimensions, reminding me of other dreams I`ve had years ago, and had forgotten about.
For example I had one dream about a cathedral in some town, but I didn`t know where it was.
So, the dreams began last year; then I did my best to suppress them again, after a months or so; I don`t want to come across as naive or crazy or star-struck; for heaven`s sake I`m 32 years old and not 13! I`m usually reasonable and controlled and grown up. But those dreams, they came back and they changed. Now I was basically dreaming of him talking to me. Just talking to me, and he asked me to come to a certain city. I looked up that city and I didn`t only find out that he actually had been born there, but in that city there`s that cathedral I had been dreaming about!
And then, well, one of the reasons I pushed back my "crush-feelings" was that he`s basically working on the other end of the world, and that I would never even have the chance to see him. Not even that.
But now some of his career priorities changed all of a sudden, and I probably will have the chance to see him on stage this summer. And the strangest thing is that I had already planned my trip to this particular city there, even before I learned that I would have that chance to see him.
I know I must sound like a total lunatic or even worse, stalker. But I am not. I don`t even know if I should be going. I mean I feel as if I should, but maybe I just should get a grip on myself.
I thought you should know that. So, that`s no real relationship and never will be one, but he touched me so deeply, I can hardly describe it.

But now I want to reply to some of the things you wrote:

"Union rules the subtleties of marriage, business tie ups and so on."
So basically it means there are connections? And union connected to the NN, probably means there is a connection?


"aconic Osiris conjuncts my natal Isis (0)
My Draconic Osiris trines his natal Isis (2)
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EXCELLENT!!!!"
Why is this excellent? Is it because Isis and Osiris were a soulmate-couple? They were, weren`t they? A bit like Sun and Moon, the masculine and the feminine archetype combined, or did I get that wrong?
It`s interesting. I have been studying Latin, and I`ve been writing a paper for that course about Eros and Psyche and in the same book (by Apuleius) there was the mentioning of the Isis-cult; it made me feel very strange back then to read about it. Almost like something was stirred up inside of me. But I still can`t put my finger on what exactly it was.


"Very good placement to build love tension and huge inner attraction."
That sounds lovely. I thought it could be an important one, because it`s fairly tight-orbed, and actually the same repeated aspect. Even though I`m not totally sure what Valentine exactly means, other than it`s connected to love.


"he Draconic asteroid links prove beyond doubt that you and your man have a very well knit soul contract going on."
Since he`s not my man, I think it might change the interpretation a lot.
But I wanted to ask how you interprete the draconic compared to the natal horoscope?
Is it just something very subtle? Can you feel the connections clearly? how would you interprete it generally? Who is the more affected? Probably the one whose Draconic planets are activated, or am I wrong?


"8th connected to lust is an astrological misconception. The rogue occultists who mind controlled most astrologers in the 20th century swapped 10th house and 8th House, as well as 6th and 12th. 5th is very much lusty and the 10th is quite lusty too."
Hmm, that is interesting. I never heard of that one. Well, it would make sense to start with Leo / Sun; actually it would really mirror the sequence of the planets in the universe, starting with the Sun (Leo) and Moon (Cancer), Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter (old ruler of Pisces) and so on. But that would mean, that cancer rules the 2nd house and taurus the 4th, no?
I`m open to that possibility, but probably not the best example to prove that theory about 10th and 8th house, since I have retograde Saturn in Cancer in the 8th house and Pluto in Libra in the 10th house conjunct my Midheaven (well, in the equal house-system it would be in the 11th house).
But I noticed that a lot of romantic couples have planets in each other`s 10th houses. I never really understood the reason for that. So, how would you interprete, if the ASC, Venus, Mars, Sun or Moon feel into another ones 10th house? Would you exchange the interpretations of 8th house and 10th house? Or are there differences?

EDIT: The transits are somewhat interesting, too.
That Uranus / Valentine conjunction you`ve mentioned in another thread is opposite this actor`s Psyche and squares both our natal Karma`s, also trines my Saturn and quinkunx his Saturn. But since we´re not in physical approximity, that doesn`t mean that much, I guess?
I checked my transits for this summer, too.
And there were some strange transits:

Transit Mars / Karma will be exactly square his natal Saturn and sextile my natal Saturn (time to pay back some of my debts?)
It also trines his natal Psyche, squares my natal Moon and sextiles my draconic VAlentine (do you also look up transits to draconic planets?).

Transit Uranus will be trine my natal Saturn and quinkunx his natal Saturn.
It will also conjunct my draconic VAlentine / Natal Juno and opposite his natal Psyche.

Transit Psyche will be involved, too. It will conjunct his natal Psyche and square both our natal Karma`s, which sounds really bad, I admit.

Also, transit Neptune is conjunct his natal Ascendant and my natal Psyche.

Transit Valentine will be conjunct his natal Valentine and trine my natal Valentine (feels like VAlentine-day. ). Of course that means transit Valentine is also conjunct my Draconic Mars / Ascendant.

Transit Isis will be conjunct his natal Osiris and draconic Venus and it will be trine my natal NN / Neptune.

Transit Amor will trine his natal Point of marriage and trine my natal Amor. (and sextile his natal Kaali).
It will also be conjunct his draconic Moon and my draconic Neptune (forgot to mention that draconic conjunction in my previous post).

Transit Eros will trine his natal Psyche and sextile my natal Juno / draconic VAlentine;
And now there`s a real horrible one:
Transiting Eros will be conjunct his draconic Saturn and opposite my natal Saturn. OUCH!

Transit Lust moves into a trine to my natal Venus and an opposition to his natal Venus / Lust.
It`s also square my natal Lust.

And lastly I found:
Transit Union is exactly trine my natal Union and his NN.

(There is other stuff going on like for example transit pluto conjunct my natal Sun- again. Transit Jupiter conjunct my natal NN / Neptune and square Transiting NN. Transiting NN conjunct my Jupiter and moving into a sextile to my natal Venus - therefore setting off the double whammy of Venus-Lust between those two horoscopes ).

What do the stars try to tell me?
It feels quite meaningful, but what on earth am I meant to do? What does this all mean?

DD

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Diandra23
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posted May 28, 2007 11:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi

Im back from the weekend!

Izo,

i looked at the Draconics but the only draconic planet conjuncting my natal asc is neptune :P, but venus trines the natal asc;and isis is opposing (gosh that could not be good)


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posted May 29, 2007 04:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Diandra!

Well, draconic Neptune conj your natal Asc could mean that you chose to be dreamy, spiritual and idealistic in this life. If Isis oposes the Asc, this means it conjuncts the Descendant... and that is so very good (have no idea at this moment what it means, but it must be fantastic). Remember, the glass is always half full .
How did the week-end go? Blissful, I imagine .

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posted May 29, 2007 07:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i sure am very dreamy and idealistic, no doubt on that hihihih

Are your exams going well? I hope so!

Oh the weekend was just fantastic.We went seeing little villages here near my city and discovered beautiful places! We had a wonderful time and of course that being apart contributes to the "SAUDADE" - missing- so when we are together imagine we are always with dreamy eyes looking at each other hihih ( heres comes the dreamy thing of me )

Now, just get together in 8 june ( me going there )

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posted May 29, 2007 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi IQ!

I'm new to the site and I'm always fascinated by your posts. I am learning so much from you.

I actually e mailed you a few days back because I was so anxious about that 5th degree of Taurus in someone's P.O.M., but then I realized that I'm not 100% positive of his birth time. Whenever you have time, I'd love your opinion on our connection.

I dreamed of him before ever laying eyes on him, VERY intense dreams...the first being in Egypt. We have had years worth of strange "coincidences." I recently wrote to him for the first time. I'm just wondering if anything stands out between us astrologically. (Besides the grand water trine.)

We both have one and the asteroid KARMA ties ours into eachother, which I found quite interesting!

Can you point me in the direction of finding the draconics for our charts? I'd love to see how these come into play.

Thanks so much!

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posted May 29, 2007 10:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Eightmoon,
I replied to your email. You have nothing to worry because his POM is in the 6th degree.
You both have excellent aspects.

You are one of the 0.05% humanity who have a precise Valentine conjunct True Node. True Love is your Mantra for spiritual evolution and I think you have found a very good man.

To create a Draconic Chart, just shift every point in your chart by subtracting the True Node position from 0 Aries.
Example: Your true node is 7.36 Taurus. So 0 Aries to 7.36 TAurus is 37.36 degrees. Subtract 37.36 degrees from all your planets.

Your Draconian Sun is now 26.46 Pisces minus 37.36 degrees = 19.10 Aquarius.

Your Draconian Moon is 11.48 Gemini minus 37.36 degrees = 4.12 Taurus.
Now this clearly points to YOU HAVING A PAST LIFE SOUL CONTRACT AS A WIDOW. This is why you subconsciously got scared by this 5th degree. You had been through this. My 6th sense tells me you lost him in a past life.

Well, the only true reality for us is the present moment. Go ahead and explore this relationship in this lifeline. It may heal all the past life scars.

Make your Draconian Chart fully, then make his Draconian Chart fully. The intersection points of personal planets with each other's natal charts prove the past life links.

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posted May 29, 2007 11:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which Nodes should be used? Mean or True?

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posted May 29, 2007 12:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont think it matters. I always use True Node. Does Mean Node differ by more than 1 degree?

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In my case, no. It's 50'. But for my guy the difference is bigger. And the Sabians are different (for the draconic chart, I mean) if calculated with true/mean. I used the Mean Node so far... I just felt like using it, can't really explain why.
I know Linda used the Mean Node. But I calculated another draconic for the True one just in case.

And another thing: what do you think about asteroid FORTUNA (19)? It was named after the Roman godess Fortuna and she ruled both fate and fortune. But in my head these notions are quite separate and I'd like to know which one to associate with this asteroid. It is pretty important in my chart (conjuncts Karma) and it forms another double-whammy in the synastry with my guy (double conjunction with each other's Suns; the composite Fortuna also conjuncts the comp Sun and Mercury and opposes comp Moon).
What do you think?

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posted May 29, 2007 01:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Izo - on one of the links above it said to use TRUE node.

OK - I'm getting a headache with all the numbers on the charts. Clarify something please.

Do we use Draconic formulas for all asteriods too? That's a lot of aspects that can connect. Do we use Draconic aspects with Draconic aspects or just to natal aspects.

Do we just use conjunction, trine & Opposite or can we use the semis and quins?

What about personal name planets?

Are there limitations that we should use for aspects?

Thanks
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Hey Tameem,

I'm amazed at the accuracy of the draconian chart. It described me exactly! I feel that I understand astrology through this chart than my natal. Therefore I want to ask you a question. If the draconian is a better descriptor of the person, why not make a secondary chart of that instead of the natal? Wouldn't it be more accurate of the shadow self than a secondary chart of the natal?

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posted May 29, 2007 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi IQ!

Thanks so much for the great info. This will be my new project.

The e mail didn't come through. Is there any way that you can resend? I feel like I have a lot to learn from you. (Feeling a student/teacher connection for sure.) I wouldn't want to miss out on any insights you might have to offer.

Thanks again!
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Hi Izodesmozina,

"The TRUE NODE is always used because this is the position of the Node after correction for the perturbations caused by the gravitational forces of Sun and Moon."

Found this quote at:
http://www.solsticepoint.com/dragontxt.htm

from the link you gave.

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IQ...WOW on the Draconian Astrology!

VERY interesting! I don't know how imp. it is for you to know signs here, but I only included the synastry.

(This is with orbs of 3 degrees or less.)

My Draconic Sun and Draconian Chiron conjunct my natal Union and trine my natal Ascendant and P.O.M. (I think this kinda backs up what you said about True Love being my mantra!)

It gets better¡Kmy Draconian P.O.M. (7.54 Virgo) conjuncts His natal sun, Mercury, and Uranus, and trines my natal Valentine, True Node, P.O.F., his natal P.O.M., and his Amor. My Draconian Union also conjuncts his Amor, my POF and trines his natal Sun, Merc, Uran, my Valentine, True Node, and his POM. My natal Val/T. Node squares his Draconian POM. ƒ¼

My natal Sun and Natal Chiron conjunct my Draconian Kaali and trine my Draconian Siva which all trine my natal Jupiter, Neptune, MC, and his Natal Venus.

My natal Moon conjuncts my Draconian Karma as well as His Draconian Sun, Mercury, Uranus, and Pluto. It also trines his Draconian Osiris and his natal Ascendant. (There are quite a few sextiles, but I won¡¦t get into that here.)

My Draconian Moon conjuncts my natal Valentine, Kaali, North Node, and His P.O.M., trines his Amor and my P.O.F. and is opposite my natal Mars and his natal Valentine and Siva.

My natal Venus is conjunct his Draconian Venus and sextiles his Gemini conjunction of True Node, my Ceres, and his Draconian Kaali, and his Draconian Union.

My Draconian Venus conjuncts his Natal Chiron, trines his natal Moon (which conjuncts his Draconian Ascendant) and trines his natal Neptune, opposite his natal Eros and my natal Pluto.

My Draconian Valentine and his Draconian Isis conjunct my natal Saturn. His Draconian Saturn trines my natal Saturn.

My Draconian Neptune conjuncts his natal Ascendant.

There's more, but I'm sure I'm already overwhelming you!

Thanks SO much for sharing! I'd love your input!

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Izo - in my understanding, Fortuna is connected with fate in the destiny sense, not fortune in the luck sense. I think having it conjuncting your Karma reinforces that placement and the aspects that point makes as being particularly significant for your destiny.

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To my knowledge, there is no particular meaning to Draconic Links. Their existance just proves that a past life contract exists.
In one's own chartt, they show the past life lessons learnt.
Also, Draconic to Natal Comparison and Draconic to Draconic Comparison are more relevant with Saturn, Pluto, Sun, Moon and Karma than to other asteroids.

My sincere request to all is to first thoroughly analyze the Natal Chart planets, check synastry, then add asteroids, then again check the synastry and only after that create the Draconic Chart. Otherwise it can be an exercise in futility to get excited about links that are irrelevant because there was no meat in the Natal Charts itself.

Using maths, if you check for Conj, Trine, Sq, Opp, Sextile and Quincunx for 20 celestial objects with 20 other objects and use a 2 degree orb, you will always find some connection or the other. Such connections will mislead. Thus, first refine the connections by using 10 main objects and a one degree orb. If you get 3 or more links in this case ONLY THEN PROCEED for checking other links.

When I compare my chart with JFK or Elvis or Jessica Simpson or Kathryn Mcphee using 20 objects and wide orbs, I too will get several links but not even one will be a double whammy.
Imagine if I proceed to make Draconic chart and find more links to find deeper meaning. It will not be useful.

Yet in my son's chart, the simplest of simple links prove the soul cluster connection. My Sun conjuncts his Venus and his Sun conjuncts my Venus. His Ascendant opposed my POF and trines my Venus. His Saturn squares my Venus and his True Node trines my Pluto. 5 Mega Links.
So I proceed to check further and I find his Karma conjuncts my Ascendant and My Karma conjuncts his Ascendant [3 degree orb].

These kind of double whammies are worth more than 1000 other links like X's Isis quincunx Y's Jupiter and X's Mercury sextile Y's Union or Vesta or Juno where X and Y have not yet been established as soul mates.
So please please please first refine your charts to confirm a powerful connection before going further. Only then the other links gather a powerful meaning.

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