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jane
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posted May 30, 2007 05:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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To my knowledge, there is no particular meaning to Draconic Links. Their existance just proves that a past life contract exists.

Great. Now I learn that!

All great advice, IQ. I especially appreciated the tip of which planets to focus on in Draconic charts. And your comments regarding first finding 1-orb aspects between the main objects before looking further make complete sense.

Would you say 0 orb aspects are more significant than double whammies that have larger orbs (up to 2 degrees)? Of course, the ideal would be 0 orb double whammies but we haven't all won the synastry Olympics . BTW, your synastry with your son is truly remarkable! And not just the synastry, but the interplay. I remember you mentioning that you and your wife have a Valentine-NN double whammy and your son has a Valentine-NN aspect natally. It's things like that that speak to design and not chance.

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posted May 30, 2007 05:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for taking my advice in the right spirit Jane. Yes, the design in the charts of myself, my wife and son are a clue to a genuine soul cluster incarnating together to love one another till sufficient evolution occurs.
We dont have 0 degree (the absoulte ideal) double whammies but we do have 0 degree aspects.

My Karma and wife's ascendant are 13.36 Capricorn.

My Son's ascendant at 16.51 Capricorn is conjunct my wife's Anubis at 16.51 capricorn.

My Venus and my son's sun are 17.45 Taurus.

My Son's Osiris is just 20 minutes away from my sun.

My wife and I both have Isis-Osiris conjunction. Mine at 27 Leo and wife at 10 Virgo. My Sun's Anubis is at 26.4 Leo, again just 20 minutes off. The significance being that Anubis is the son of Osiris (but not with Isis!).
My son and I have Asteroid Child conjunct by 10 minutes.
My mother's Karma conjuncts my Venus and my son's Sun at 17.44 Taurus.
When she passed away, Anubis was also at 17.44 Taurus.
Something inside me tells me that my son is either my mother reincarnated or my mother's twin soul reincarnated. I dont know.
But all the above 0 degree aspects prove how important it is to refine our charts and separate the wheat from the chaff.

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posted May 30, 2007 06:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The significance being that Anubis is the son of Osiris (but not with Isis!).

Well then, you're a much better husband than Osiris was.

Wow, you don't just have 0 degree aspects, you have 0 minute aspects! The ascendant aspects are particularly stunning since it changes so quickly.

It sounds like you have a beautiful family. And I sense that from the way you interpret the aspects just as much as I do from the aspects themselves.

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posted May 30, 2007 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for OzMeg222     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IqHunk-
Just a quick note to say you are the most adorable new Daddy I've heard in a long time, possibly ever! Its so obvious how much you adore your wife and new son.

Enjoy your bliss!

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posted May 30, 2007 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ~

Thanks so much for the great advice. The synastry between you and your family is AMAZING. Many congratulations on your "new" son. (I'm sure the connection between you is anything but new!)

At your advice, I have once again sharpened my pencil. Below are the planets/asteroids within 1 degree. I will definitely pursue this relationship, but I'm hoping for an outside, objective opinion so that I'm not wearing rose colored glasses.
(Pisces sun/Libra rising...at least I know my Achilles heel!)

His Karma Scorpio 20.30 trine my Karma Cancer 21.16, sextile my Osiris Cap. 20.3

His Mars Cancer 21.49 conjunct my Karma Canc. 21.16, square my ascend. Libra 21.19

His Venus Cancer 23.54 conj. my Jupiter Cancer 24.57 (1.3 degrees) and my M.C. Cancer 24.55 (1.1), and trine my Neptune Scorpio 24.14

My P.O.M. Libra 15.30 squares his Moon Cancer 16.20, quincunx his Chiron Pisces 16.46 and conjuncts his Ascendant Libra 14.15 (1.15 degrees)

As always...THANK YOU!!!

PS) Later today, I'm going to create a post about declinations...if you'd drop by and give your opinion, it would be awesome!

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posted May 30, 2007 11:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
<<It sounds like you have a beautiful family>>
Yes but a lot of adjustements had to be made by my wife. I am an occultist and she is from a traditional orthodox family, she has to shield my double life. Imagine meeting dozens of relatives every now and then, none knowing that I know astrology/practice occult except my wife and dad. I did not think she would handle it but she has done so very well, thank God for the precise aspects

Thanks for your kind words OzMeg!
I love my baby more than my life.

<<Wow, you don't just have 0 degree aspects, you have 0 minute aspects! The ascendant aspects are particularly stunning since it changes so quickly.>>

This is exactly what I want every couple on this site to find, a precise connection with the Ascendant/Moon so that the couple can fall headlong in love with the man not trying to wriggle out but instead returning the love of the girl with interest.

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posted May 30, 2007 11:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi EightMoon,
I lost the email I sent but what I posted before had more than the email.
You have enough good links to explore all the other charts (including declinations).

I have no clue about declinations, except that parallels indicate harmony.

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posted May 30, 2007 02:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gosh , i´ve only red Iqunks post after doing the Draconics:

- Is there anything interesting enough to consider it powerfull?

-His Natal Union trines my natal NN(2º)

My Anti-vertex conjuncts his IC ( 0º) ; trines his Moon(3º); trines His Vesta(3º); trines his Valentine ( 0ª) ; conjunct his Lovers(2º);

His Anti-vertex trines my 5th house ruler (3º); trines my Ceres (3º);


DRACONICS

Conjuncts:

His Draconic Sun conjuncts my Isis ( 2º) ; conjuncts my NN(5º) ;
His Draconic Moon conjuncts my Kaali (3º)
His Draconic Venus conjunct my Vesta(3º); conjuncts my NN(5º);
His Draconic Asc widely conjuncts my Vertex ( 5º):
His Draconic DC conjuncts my Destiny (0º); conjuncts Drac.Pallas(2º)
His Draconic Psyche conjuncts my MC ( 4º);
His Draconic Valentine conjuncts my 6th house ruler ( 5º);conjuncts Drac. Moon(4º)
His Draconic Amor conjunts my MC ruler ( 1º);conjuncts Drac.Venus(2º);
His Draconic Union comjuncts my Psyche(4º);
His Draconic karma conjuncts my Drc Vertex(6º);
His Draconic Osiris/isis conujunct my Love(1º);
His Draconic Kaali conjuncts my P.O.marriage (0º);conjuncts my Osiris(0º);conjuncts my Drac. Union(5º);Drac Mars and Valentine(6º)
His Drac. Mars conjuncts my Venus(2º) and my Drac Psyche(0)

My Drac. Sun conjuncts his kiron(1º);
My Drac. Moon his DRac Valentine (4º)
My Drac Mercury conjuncts his NN(0º)
My Draconic venus conjunct his Drac Amor(2º)
My Draconic mars/Valentine conjunct his 11house ruler (2º);
My Draconic Amor cnjuncts his Neptune(1º);juno (5º);
My Draconic Union conjuncts his Karma (1º); Drac Kaali(5º);
My Draconic karma conjuncts his 11house ruller (1º)
My Draconic Osiris conjuncts his 8th house ruller(0º); his moon ( 2º); his Union(2º);
My Draconic Kaali conjunxts his PART of Fate(2º); happiness(6º)
My Draconic Psyche conjuncts his Destiny (0º);conjunct his Drac Mars;Drac Uanus(4º); Drac Ceres(4º);His natal Kaali(3º)
My Drac Asc conjuncts his Drac Saturn(0º)Drac Pluto(3º);


Trines /0ppositions

John:

Drac Sun trines my plutao (1º); my lovers (3º);opposes my Drc. Amor (3º); opposes my Marriage of Woman (2º);
Draconic Moon trines my 6th ohouse ruler (1º); trines my 8th house ruller (2º);
Draconic Venus trines my Lilith, Ceres (2º); trines my Drac Pallas(2º); Drac Juno(3º); trines my Drac Osiris(4º); trines my Destiny(3º);
Draconic DC conjunts my Destiny (0º); trines my Osiris (1º); trines my Cres/Lilith; trines my NN (1º);
Draconic Psyche opposes my IC (3º); opposes my Pallas(3º); trines my 2th hosouse ruller(2º); trines my Staurn(2º);
Draconic Valentine opposes my Sun ( 2º); trines my Kaali (1º); trines my 2th house ruller (2º); opposes my Wedding (1º);
Draconic Amor ooposes my 3th house ruller (3º); opposes my Jup (3º); opposes my Uranus (0º); opposes my POM (2º);
Draconic Amor trines my ASC (0º); trines my 5th house ruller( 4º); trines my Drac.Neptune(1º);
Draconic Union opposes my Osiris (2º); opposes my POM(2º); trines trines my sun/moon mid.(0º); trines my 6th house ruller(4º); trines my Amor(1º);
Draconic Karma opposes my Union ( 1º); trines my Draconic Sun (1º); trines y Love (1º);
Draconic Osiris opposes my Draconic Vesta (2º); Utopia ( 2º);opposes my Utopia (2º); trines my Drac. Sun(1º); trines my Draconic Karma(3º); trines my Draconic Vertex(2º); trines my Moon ( 3º);
Draconic Isis opposes my Draconic Vesta (1º); Utopia ( 1º);opposes my Utopia (1º); trines my Drac. Sun(0º); trines my Draconic Karma(2º); trines my Draconic Vertex(1º); trines my Moon ( 4º);
Draconic Kaali trines my Draconic Jupiter(2º); trines my Draconic Uranus(1º);
Draconic Mars opposes my Lovers (2º); trines my Neptune (0º);
Ana

Draconic Moon opposes his Draconic Vx (4º) ; and conjuncts the Anti-vertex;
Trines his Marriage of Men(2º); trines his venus/mars midpoint(1º); trines his Wedding( 2º);
Draconic Mercury opposes his Lilith (2º); opposes his Isis/Osiris (2º); Utopia(4º);
Trines his Draconic Moon(0º); Drac Valentine(3º);
Draconic Venus opposes his sun/moon mid. (3º); trines his Sun (2º); 
Draconic Mars opposes His Drac Union(3º); opposes his 5th house ruller (2º);
Trines His Drac Juno (1º); trines his Amor (4º);
Draconic Valentine opposes his 5th house ruller (2º); trines his Draconic Juno(1º);
Draconic Amor opposes his Drac Sun (2º); trines his Drac Uranus(2º); trines his Drac. Ceres(2º); trines his Destiny(3º); trines his Kaali(1º);
Draconic Union opposes his Drac Moon(1º); trines his Pallas(1º);
Draconic Karma opposes trines his 5th house ruller(1º); trines Drac. Osiris/Isis (4º/3ª);
Draconic Osiris opposes his Drac Uranus (2º); Drac Ceres(2º); opposes his Kaali (2º); trines his his Saturn (2º);
Draconic Isis opposes his Sun (1º); trines his Mars (0º); his Ceres(3º);
Draconic Kaali opposes his opposes his Vesta(2º); trines his MC(1º); TRINES HIS Vx(0ª)
Draconic Psyche opposes his Union(3º); trines his trines his 6th house ruller(1º); trines his Neptune (2º); trines his Juno(2º);
Draconic Asc opposes his Lilith (2º); trines his Drac Union(1º) ; trines his 9th house ruller(0º);


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posted May 30, 2007 02:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi IQ-hunk,

I hope I didn`t upset you, because I didn`t put up a "real" relationship here, but I was telling the truth, this actor unsettles me more than any other. So I would like to keep on analysing his chart just to see if I can do it right. Let`s just pretend he was someone I actually COULD meet, - I know that it`s impossible. So, if this was any ordinary guy I wanted to analyse my synastry with, I would look at first for aspects witin about 1° without the asteroids, right?

So, I had a look at the "basics" and found that:

My Jupiter trines his Uranus (0°05) - I know this is a generational aspect, but I listed it for two reasons:
1. it`s pretty precise
2. Jupiter and Uranus are our chart-rulers, so it actually means that his ASC-ruler trines my ASC-ruler; I guess that could be relevant, couldn`t it? Especially since the asc moves so quickly.

My Uranus conjuncts his Moon (1°04)

My Neptune square his Venus (0°13) - interestingly this is a square between our 4th - house-rulers (equal houses)

My Pluto square his Mercury (0°43)

My Pluto quinkunx his Venus (0°38)

My pluto square his Mars (0°12)

My True node square his Venus (0°27)

My PoF sextile his PoF (0°45)

My PoM trine his Mercury (0°32)


Would those connections justify to delve deeper into the synastric analysis? Or is it too weak?
Can I use PoM and PoF, too? I never did so before, but they are connected to the Ascendant, and therefore very indidivual, I think?
What about all those Pluto-aspects? Is it too generational or is it more individual, since they are connected to personal planets and all under 1° orb?


However, if those aspects are strong enough, I would look to Double-whammies now, wouldn`t I (even with wider orb)?

There I find:

My Mars trine his PoM (1°31)
His Mars trine my PoM (1°21)

and with a wide orb:

My Uranus square his PoM (2°18)
His Urnaus opposite my PoM (3°24) - too wide? even for a double whammy??

So what would I do now? Look at basic aspects, which are a little bit wider (which orb is reasonable?)

I find:

My PoF squares his Node (1°20)

My Jupiter conjuncts his Venus (1°29) - my Jupiter is the traditional ruler of my equal 4th house and also rules my ASC and Venus is his 4th house ruler

My Jupiter sextile his Mars (1°56)


Then with an even wider orb:

my Moon opposite his Saturn (2°06)
My Moon sextile his Neptune (2°03)
My Moon trine his pluto (2°55)
My PoF square his Moon (2°06)

Are those aspects still "effective"? Can I accept wider orbs with Sun, Moon, ASC, Node?

Of the other personal aspects there are:

My Venus conjuncts his Mercury (2°09)
My Venus conjuncts his Mars (3°10) - probably very wide, but they are also parallel
My Jupiter square his MC (2°43)

And then as next step do I look to the asteroids?

The Double Whammies:

My Isis conjunct his Mercury (0!17)
HIs Isis trine my Mercury (1°24) - Mercury is the ruler of his 5th house and rules my 7th house

My Osiris conjunct his Mars (1°27)
My Mars trine his Osiris (3°44) - too wide? Or can I accept that wide orb because of the double whammy?

my Valentine conjunct his PoF (1°21)
His Valentine sextile my PoF (2°45)

My Anubis square his Node (1°19)
His Anubis trine my Node (3°56)

My Eros sextile his Psyche (2°46)
His ERos square my Psyche (3°39)

And after I looked up the double-whammies, do I then look to the 0° - 1° aspects with asteroids? Starting with Sun, Moon, Node, ASC and then continuing with Mercury, Venus, Mars?

Is that how you meant it?


DD

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posted May 30, 2007 03:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Darkdreamer

I hope you dont mind if i answer you in some way!
I couldnt help cause , coincidence or not, today i was looking at other site and saw some posts and it seems to me that they were yours Gosh, that story really is fascinating between you and this "magnet musician man"!
Well, concerning the sinastry aspects, i think you can consider up to 3º orb the general aspects and some people when concerning,sun/moon aspects go to more orbs

Iqunk usually says that first we must look if there are sun/moon/venus/pluto/saturn/asc tight aspects between them,giving the conjunct/opposites/squares/ a high relevance that minor aspects ( quicunk/semisextile/sesquiquadrate/semiquadrate..).
If there are 3 or less planets of those aspecting each other -than it´s consider a week sinastry,but if there are 5 or more ,then we are up to go to the asteroids.
Iqunk also says is very good if :

" double whammy aspects or linked aspects of:

Mars, Venus, Pluto, Karma, Valentine, Amor, Isis, Osiris, Cupid, Psyche, Eros and Juno."

Go here and it will help you : http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009111.html


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posted May 30, 2007 04:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Diandra.

So, then those aspects might be relevnat:

My Sun sextile his Moon (4°, but you said wider orbs are allowed with Sun / Moon)
My Sun sextile his AC (4°)
My Moon opposite his Saturn (2°)
My Moon trine his Pluto (2°)
My Moon conjunct his AC (4°)
My Venus sextile his Venus (3°)
My Venus conjunct his Mars (3°)
My Pluto quinkunx his Venus (0° - a weak aspect I know, but very precise)
My Pluto square his Mars (0°)
My Saturn square his Pluto (2°)
My AC square his Venus (2°)

Is that considered strong or weak? I know there are more than 3 connections, but some with wider orb.

You also said: Double whammy aspects or linked aspects.
What does "linked aspect means". Is it something like: My Venus conjunct his Mars and both sextile his Venus and square my Pluto, and my Pluto is also quinkunx his Venus, so that it looks like a chain of planets?

Is it relevant, that
My Karma is opposite his Karma - Neptune - MC and that both Karma`s are square his Psyche / Vertex and also square my Juno; it`s actually a Grand Cross.

Also there`s a Double Whammy of Eros - Juno:
His ERos trine my Juno
My Eros trine his Juno
Actually, those form a Grand Trine:
His Eros / Juno conjunction completes my Eros / Juno-trine.

The Venus-mars-double whammy is probably too wide to count:
My Venus conjunct his Mars (3°)
HIs Venus square my Mars (4°)

Also, his Cupid sextile my Amor (1°)
My Cupid square his Amor (ouch! ony 0°08) - why didn`t I see this before?
What does Cupid - Amor mean?


Additionally we have a Juno-Psyche-double whammy, if it counts:
My Psyche square his Juno (3°)
His Psyche opposite my Juno (0°)


Did I do it right now?


DD


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posted May 30, 2007 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ,

Please let me know if I am overwhelming you with questions. I certainly don't want to do that!

You said:
"This is exactly what I want every couple on this site to find, a precise connection with the Ascendant/Moon so that the couple can fall headlong in love with the man not trying to wriggle out but instead returning the love of the girl with interest."

We have a dual connection, but one is a trine and one is a square. Will this create the connection you mentioned, or would there be problems since his is a square?

My Moon Gemini 11.48 trine his Asc. 14.15 Libra

His Moon 16.20 Cancer square my ascendant 21.19 Libra

Thank you!

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posted May 31, 2007 05:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Diandra,
Do apply the filters and eliminate all 4 degree+ aspects. Only conjunctions deserve a 3.5 degree orb, no more.

On checking your list, I found the clues that you and your man are definite soul mates
(assuming the Natal Charts had significant 1 degree orb aspects too)

1) His Draconic Kaali conjuncts my P.O.marriage (0º);conjuncts my Osiris(0º);
2) My Drac Asc conjuncts his Drac Saturn(0º)
3)My Draconic Union conjuncts his Karma (1º);
4) John's Draconic Isis and Osiris trine your Sun.
5) Your Draconic Isis and Osiris aspect his Mars and Sun.

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posted May 31, 2007 05:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi DarkDreamer,
I am not upset, just fascinated. This is the first time someone has so many valid aspects
(and I am very pleased that you stick to the rules, very reasonable) with someone whom they have never met and yet get affected so much.

Some celebrities are foisted on our subconsciousness by mind controllers in hollywood to trigger behavioural patterns in us. Pamela Anderson, Britney Spears are famous examples, using their sexuality to program men to go for a certain type of woman or to desire certain sex acts or to just waste more sexual energy by onanism. On a seedy side, porn stars accomplish this purpose.

For women, Mel Gibson is a trigger. Notice his penchant for gore, he is heavily programmed to program violent acts in fans through gory movies.

But you are genuinely triggered by someone who I presume is not part of the programming/mind controlling set up. And the astrological indicators are justifying this.
It is as if you both were to meet by chance, you will fall in love instantly. Maybe you were a past life couple. Very fascinating indeed!

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Hi EighthMoon,
The square is weak, there wont be too many problems. Also there is no fun in life without regular arguments (provided they dont get out of control). The secret of a successful relationship is that the woman has to contribute 60%+ at all times, and the man has to be subtly reminded of this regularly.
Equality will only get you heartbreaks and if the man gives more than 60%, he will leave you for the first woman who gives 60% plus. A square every now and then in the chart allows the man to get his dose of manliness by thinking he won some argument.
How do you as a wise woman avoid disappointment? Just step 30 degrees ahead from the square and see the situation from that sign of the zodiac. In your case, how would you deal with his Moon had you had a Scorpio Ascendant? That would convert any square tension to trine bliss.

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Hi IQhunk,

I`m very relieved that you aren`t upset. But I wanted to be honest with you and anyone who`s reading this here.
Somehow it pleases me to hear that it`s apparently unusual to have those connections with a celebrity.
Regarding the "sticking to the rules", well, I don`t want to fall into wishful thinking, but want to see the truth no matter how much it hurts. I just don`t want to waste anymore time on illusions.
Of course the reasonable voice inside my head sais that I`m just crazy getting so obsessed with someone I have never even met, but to be honest, I feel absolutely helpless. It`s nto a bad feeling, just I feel like all of this is just out of my control, out of my "reasonable thinking".
I guess it`s no coincidence that I just now started to dream of this druid marriage cerenomy with him, maybe it is the memory of a past life.

Well, this in mind I had a look at the natal and draconic connections between our Merlin, Lancelot and Ginevra. Some of the orbs may be a tad wide, and there are more aspects, I just chose the most notable.

In my own horoscope I have a conjunction of Sun, Mercury, Merlin and Ginevra within 1°55; HIs Merlin is conjunct his draconic Sun and trines his natal Ascendant. Also his Merlin in Gemini is reflected in his Draconic planets Sun, Mercury and Mars in Gemini.
Interesting is the exchange of our natal Karma and Merlin (even though not in aspect).
My Karma is in Gemini, as is his Merlin; his Karma is in Sagittarius as is my Merlin and Ginevra. (but since the orbs are too wide, it probably doesn`t mean anything at all).
My draconic Ginevra is sextile my natal Karma; his natal Lancelot is sextile his natal Karma.

That was just our individual charts, but i couldn`t help but notice this.

In synastry we have:

His natal Lancelot trine my natal Karma (1°36)
My natal Lancelot opposite his draconic Karma (2°18)
My draconic Ginevra trine his natal Karma (2°18)

My draconic Ginevra sextile his natal Lancelot (1°55)
My draconic Ginevra square his draconic Lancelot (1°28)
My draconic Lancelot sextile his natal Ginevra (2°22)

My natal Lancelot square his natal Lancelot (2°22)
my draconic Lancelot trine his draconic Lancelot (1°55)

My draconic Merlin sextile his natal Lancelot (0°00)
My draconic Merlin squares his draconic Lancelot (0°27)

His natal Ginevra conjunct my PoM (1°05)


There are many more, but I cannot list them all. That would be too confusing.
What would you say, are those aspects a hint that we shared this past life in Ireland? Or what does those aspects mean?

Another question I had was: is it meaningful, if natal aspects are repeated / modified in the draconic synastry?

For example:
His VAlentine square my Sun - His draconic Valentine trine my Sun (0°02)

His Mars square my Pluto - his draconic Mars trines my Pluto

and some more.

Another remark regarding the Blue Moon.
Somehow I had the feeling that my new awoken spiritual inclinations and memories may have something to do with this Moon.
And when I checked today, I saw that the fullmoon is on 10°11 Sagittarius / Gemini.
And my True Node is 10°10 Sagittarius. How amazing is that?
This actor`s Venus is on 09°42 Pisces, and his draconic Venus is on 10°10 Leo. So, actually the most exact aspect of his draconic Venus trine my natal True Node (0°00 - I love to read that number. lol) gets triggered, and since the Draconic calculation is based on the True node, could that be the reason, I do feel that connection so clearly right now?


There are other "signs" around me, which startle me quite a bit, but maybe this is only wishful thinking.
I did a tarot spread concerning my situation, and then I did another one, and there were the same cards except for one. HOw high is the probability of drawing 9 identical cards in the same order twice?????

And well, it`s totally untypical for me to act so spontaneously, but I`m gonna see him this summer on stage. I was paralysed with fear and I told myself over and over again that I am completely nuts, and that I should stay home and forget about it totally and get myself together, and then I thought of all the reasons and obstacles why I couldn`t go, and every single one of them has been eliminated as if by magic, until there was no reason left to not go.
So, I don`t think he`s gonna fall in love with me or will "recognize" me or even notice me, but I just have the feeling I have to see him. I don´t know why, I mean, I would never go up and try to talk to him, but still I feel kind of "pushed" into this direction. *sighs*
So, IQhunk and now it`s your turn to tell me I am insane and should stay where I am.


EDIT: Oh, I just noticed something regarding the Draconic charts.
His draconic Sun is in Gemini, as is my draconic Moon, but not conjunct.
But his draconic Mars is also in Gemini, and it conjuncts my draconic Moon as well as some other objects.
Do you think this does mean anything? And if it does, what does it mean?
That we`re both Gemini deep inside? Hmm, I may be too blind, but somehow I can`t interprete it for myself.


DD


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posted May 31, 2007 12:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ,

OMG!!!!!
I got goosebumps!!!
i really had a feeling that he is someone very special and dear to my heart even before i met him in person - even the moment we met had something quite magic and deep and secret past misteries behind all coincidences and telepathy!

Regarding the natals here are some aspect( within 1º):

His:

- Sun sextil mars and uranus, sqaure NN, opposes MC
-Moon trine saturn,trine Valent,opposes Kaali, sextil MC
- Venus trine Kiron,sqaures Juno,sextil Siva,conjunct Anubis,sextil ASC
- Karma opposes Jup
- Valent trines Merc, sextil ASC
-Psyche conjunct Merc, opposes MC
-Kaali sextil Saturn
Siva trines Asc
- Osiris sqaure sun and Q saturn
- Isis squares sun and sextile mars
-Cup conjunct saturn,sextil nep,conjunct Pluto,square Asc

Mine:

- Sun sqaures jup, sext saturn,sqaures Uranus,trines neptun,sextil Kaali e Anubisand MC
-Moon opposes Jup and Psyche
- Venus trines Nep, sextil pluto,sqaures kiron,
-Valentine conjunct Mars
-Union sextils Merc,squares saturn,squares plut,trines MC
-Kaali sextils Asc e MC,
-Amor trines MC
-Osiris squares mars,
-Isis sextils venus, opposes nep,trines Pluto
- Cupid bq moon,trine venus ad sextil saturn

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posted May 31, 2007 03:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I hope im not being a "pain in the ass"- but i found also these:

- Asteroid ANNA conj his Drac. Valent (1º), and Drac. Mercury(0º);trine Drac PsychE(0º);opposes Drac Vertex ,conjuncting Anti vertex(0º)

- Asteroid JOHNPAUL trines my Drac Moon(1º)
-Asteroid JOHN trines my Drac. Kaali(1º)

In our Composite:

- Composite Union conjuncts John´s Drac. Kaali(1º)
- Compositte Isis conjunct Ana´s Drac.Pluto(1º)
-Composite Osiris trines John´s NN(0º)
-Composite Amor conjuncts John´s Drac. Venus(1º)
- Composite Karma conjunts John´s Drac.Sun(0º)
-Composite Valentine trines John´s Union(1º), conjunts Ana´s Drac.Asc(0º),conjuncts John´s Drac. Saturn(1º)
-Composite Kaali conjuncts John´s Drac.Osiris/Isis(3/2º);trines John´s Drac. Karma(0º),trines Ana´s Drac. Sun(2º)
- composite Juno conjuncts Ana´s Drac. Moon(0º);trines Joh´s Drac. Psyche and Merc(1º),and conjnucts Joh´s Anas asteroid(2º)
-composite Psych TRINES jOHN´S dRAC sUN(3º),
-Composite Eros conjuncts Joh´s Drac Juno(1º),trines Ana´s Drac Vertex(2º),
-Composite Siva trines An´s Drac Union(1º),
-Composite Child conjunts Ana´s Drac Mars(1º)/Valentine and Drac Karma(2º),trines John´s Drac Juno(1º),
-Composite ANNA conjunts John´s Drac Asc(0º),trines John´s Drac Ceres(2º);
-Composite Jonnhy trines JOhn´s Drac sun(1º),
-Composite JohnPaul comjunct Anás Drac Neptune(1º)

Also in composite(within3º)

-Psyche conjuntsc saturn,pluto,and sextiles Asc;
-Eros conjunts Sun,and trines MC
- Kaali trines kiron and trines MC
-Siva squares moon,merc,mars;trines Asc
-Child trines sun,opposes jup


What do you think in generall?
Im sorry but i got excited to see more things..


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posted June 02, 2007 09:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Iqunk

I saw a phrase of yours that said "...assuming there are in the siñastry:Sun/Moon/Venus/Mars/Saturn/Pluto/Asc/NN/Valentine/Karma interaspects within 1ºorb, of minimum of 3-5".

I know i´ve already showed you all those connections between the asteroids in the sinastry but i checked them all again just to make sure ( but now only considering those planets you´ve talked):

- Sun´s sextile (-0a)
- My sun square his mars (-0s)
- Isis/Osiris him trines my sun(-1/oa)
- My moon quincunx his Saturn(0a)
- His sun conjunct my Asc(0a) – squares my MC(0a)
- My sun trines his Karma(-1a)
- His mars sextiles my Asc( 0a) squicunxs my MC(0s)
- His venus aspects (< ) my mars(0s) and semi-sextile my Pluto(1a)
- My Valentine inconjncts his venus(0s)
- My Isis/Osiris square his Venus (0a/-2a)
- His Saturn (< ) my Sun (1a); Q my mars (0a)
- His Saturn trines my Karma (1s)
- My Valentine Q his Saturn(0a)
- Our Plutos conjunct(1a)
- My karma Q his Pluto(0a)
- My Venus sextiles his Asc(-0s)
- My Pluto squares his Asc(-1a)
- My Union conjunct His Asc(0a)
- My Isis sextile his Asc(0a) and Cup quincunx his Asc(0a)

-His union squares my moon (-1a)
- His Cup quincunx my moon (1a)
- His mars sextiles my Psych (0a)
- His Saturn squares my Asc (1a)
- My karma trines his MC( 0s)
-His karma sextiles my MC(-1a)

I´ve only consideresd within 1ºorb the most important ones

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posted June 04, 2007 02:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diandra, it is very clear that you two are soulmates. The Sun positions are extremely strong and interlinked, apart from all the other interconnections.

I also want you to check for Eros and AMor as well. Do they aspect each other or Sun/Moon/ASC/NN/Karma/Valentine ? These can further strengthen the relationship. You can check Draconic Eros and Draconic Amor too.

Pluto conjunction does not count for you as you both are same age.

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posted June 04, 2007 03:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG!!!!!

I feel i could cry now
( dont pay attention to taht Iq hihhi)

Well,i´ce checked here´s what i´ve got:

Eros:

-His Eros sextliles my merc(0s)
- squares my venus(2s);conjuncts my Jup(2s);sextiles my saturn(-0a);opposes my kiron(-2a);bQ my MC(0A)

hIS Amor (< )my saturn(0a)

-mY Eros bQ his moon(-0a);squares his merc(0a);bQ his mars;trines his Jup(-0s)-DW and squares his MC(-3s)-DW

-My AMor trines his Jup(3a)

-His Amor 14ºVirg opposes my Amor 15ºPisces;

- His Eros also trines my mercury(0º);

- My Eros opposes his lilith(0º);

-My Amor opposes his Drac.Neptune(1º)
trines his Drac Saturn(2º);trines his Drac Union(1º);

- My Eros conjuncts his Drac Saturn(2º)

- His Drac Amor conjuncts my 9th ruler house(3º);conjuncts my kiron(3º),conjuncts my DRac.Venus(2º),opposes my 3th house ruller(3º),opposes my uranus(0º)my jup(3º); trines my ASC(0º),

- hIS Drac Eros conjunst my Drac Uranus(0º) and Drac Ceres;opposes my Drac Osiris(1º);

-My Drac Amor conjuncts his Neptun(0º),opposes his Drac Sun(2º),trines his saturn(0º),trines his Drac ASc(4º),

-My Drac Eros opposes hsi Drac DC(0º),TRINES HIS 2ND HOU RULLER (0º)

I think i didnt missed none

Do you think some of this will strenghted our realtionship Iqunk?

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posted June 04, 2007 03:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diandra, you are way adorable
From what I read about you and him, well, it's like pure love, without anything else extraneous.

Doing aspects sure are fun, ain't it?
I think finding true love is what we're all wanting our whole lives.
I'm so glad many people on here have found their half. It's a magical feeling

All the best

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Hi Atlenta how are you doing?


thanks for the adorable part,but i really can be a pain in the ass when im mad and that sweetness just fades in a second hihihi

They are so much fun cause we always discover new and fasconating things!
Im very idealistic and here on LL i find people with whom i feel identified with and just dont judge us the way we re judged outside.
People tend to think(at least the ones i know,family,friends) that Astrology is for the dreamers and for those who seek explaining the ilogicall in life...they just dont know hos fascintaing this is.Ive fdound a whole new world,and really explaisn so many things about ourselves in the world and in relationships..dont you think?

I remember talking to you in another thread and you to seem very nice person - i hope you also find the one youre lookin for! ( maybe you already have hihi)

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Hi Diandra,

Yup, I have. It had not been easy, like izo's, but the toughness was fun in retrospect and taught me so much about myself.

Yup, astrology is more fascinating than material reality itself (wee.. that's so boring) ..

Well who isn't a pain in the ass when they're mad? It'll be weird to find someone who could never get their button's pushed at all.

By the way I read your descriptions of your bf with fascination because my guy and I are born pretty near his birth date. It's pretty good to see how close astro birthmates react, ya .

By the way I think you'll stick with him for a long time. Just don't lose sight of the spirit within. Wishing you all the best .

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WHat a great thing!! ANd a coincidence dont you think? I think it was on cancerians thread we talked to each other - makes sense now.
I really wwant to be with him forever,to say the truth hihihih I hope it´ll happen!

I too wish you the best Atlenta,for you and your soulmate!
Have you already saw the thread about draconics?- its way too fascinating- if you navent done yours,than go and do it! - it always amazes!

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