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aqua inferno
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posted August 05, 2007 07:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Energy-wise?

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I shall elaborate

If Moon is in the 12th – would your emotions seem “not there” or “hidden” and no one sees them?

If Venus is in the 12th – does your femininity or style not show in normal life
If Saturn is in the 12th – do you not seem diligent, serious or committed?

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For example, my Sun is sitting on my 1st house, but I feel like it’s 12th house. I lack ego, or self…unfortunately not in the spiritual sense as it’s just passive.

Sun represents ego, and I feel like mine is 1.dead 2.hiding or 3.here only fog-like

( what my friends and family see, and you guys too I guess, is my 1st house planets )

Do share as I’m very intrigued *sips tea*

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I wish,I wish, I was a fish
- oh wait...I am

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neptune5
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posted August 05, 2007 09:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sort of, well i have jupiter in the 12th, and i don't always come off as a nice person, but truthfully i'm very sensitive.

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Highly_Inflammable
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posted August 05, 2007 09:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have "moon in 12th House"... and I have a Serious problem in expressing my emotions...

.... cant say "emotional stuff" even if my life depends on it... too secretive and private in "emotions".... and I have this constant feeling that No one will ever understand it.so why bother trying..

I hate it... hope there are others with the same placements and can tell how they Overcame it, if ever???

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izodesmozina
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posted August 05, 2007 10:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Having Pluto conjuncting it in transit

No, seriously. It will get EVERYTHING out...

I have Moon and Neptune in the 12H. It is not that they are nonexistent. Oh, they are existent and I feel them both highly. I just don't show them to people, that is all. Stuff relating to Moon and Neptune, I keep to myself. I cry in my bathroom, after I locked the door. I keep my spiritual beliefs to myself. I rarely show my soft side with the people I know (seems I have no problem with this online, but in real life... "What? I don't care about you, you must have imagined it".). They make me a withdrawn person; I need time alone quite frequently.
Only thing I wish is that I had (more) intuitive/psychic powers. I mean... it is a Moon-Neptune conjunction, at exact degree ~ anaretic, imagine that... in the 12H.

I also have South Node in my 12H. Does it count?

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izodesmozina
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posted August 05, 2007 10:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh... this reminds me... I have a question for all of you with planets in the 12th. HIDDEN ENEMIES... How about them? Please share your experiences, coz this really interests me.
In my case: women!... one of them did black magic on me (or at least she tried... ). Moon&Neptune...

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aqua inferno
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posted August 05, 2007 10:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
neptune would say you lack Sagittarian qualities on the outside, but you’re very Saggy-like on the inside? Do you like being around Sagittarians? or does it put you off?

I’m totally a Leo on the inside but I keep it at bay with chains and whips – don’t know why…it’s like “omg I could never expose that”. But I admire archetypal Leos.


“I have "moon in 12th House"... and I have a Serious problem in expressing my emotions...
.... cant say "emotional stuff" even if my life depend on it... too secretive and private in "emotions"..”

I have the same problem!!! but for different reasons. Does the same apply to you HI with secretly being a Cancer on the inside?

Izodes so you’re basically a Cancer and Pisces when no one’s looking not sure about NN, not entirely certain what it represent.

Hidden enemies, that’s interesting! Moon representing women and Neptune…anything out of this world.
So with Sun in the 12th - my enemies will be charismatic with flair
A lot of people who’ve done me wrong seemed a little too “happy happy joy joy”


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- oh wait...I am
hypercritical and proud - virgin moon 4ever baby :/

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Highly_Inflammable
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posted August 05, 2007 10:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"HIDDEN ENEMIES..."

lol.. my hidden enemy.. as much as I hate to talk or express emotional stuff... I have an insane urge to be "taken over" by a force larger than me... Emotions so intense that can take away any remenent of 'logic'..

.... crazy, insane love.

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I think I am my own worst enemy.

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aqua inferno
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posted August 05, 2007 10:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bless you

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Highly_Inflammable
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posted August 05, 2007 10:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
he hee Aqua... you must be drawn to mysterious women... black devilish thoughts... how interesting...

I am like a house who is waiting for an EVIL to occupy me and turn me totally 'haunted'..

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aqua inferno
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posted August 05, 2007 10:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow...I really hate to disapoint, since you seem so nice but I'm a girl

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Highly_Inflammable
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posted August 05, 2007 10:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol... no problem.. I thought you said you are drawn to women... *cough* ... well well... I dont mind even if you are drawn to women.. .. we sags are very 'open minded'.

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Dulce Luna
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posted August 05, 2007 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My chart ruler saturn is in the 12th but this placement has showed up throughout my entire life. Strict parents who promoted structure structure structure and limitations in my life. This really happened mostly my dad. With my mom this happened when it came to going out with guys from which I was forbidden but I did anyway behind her back, and where I was allowed to go out with friends.

Uranus in the 12th: many descriptions that my individuality would have been suppressed in childhood by a parent(s) and this I find to be true as well.

Neptune in the 12th- yeah, I am kind of in the closet about spirituality when it comes to everyday people that I know but I think neptune is at home here, right?

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NeptuneLove
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posted August 05, 2007 11:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus in 12th house and that`s what i`ve found about...

Venus in Twelfth HouseVenus in Twelfth House © 2000 Curtis Manwaring [ << ] [ >> ]

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Venus: If Venus is lord of this place or is present, it shows that the native prefers to keep their affections private. In some cases it signifys that the native will be prone to secret liasons and affairs that the public would not approve of. Often there is a relationship that can be destructive and bring the native down if the sordid details come to light. This makes the native vulnerable to blackmail, another trait of Venus in this position.It will make those who are tormented by feminine excuses - namely those who are amorous. And they have intercourse with slaves, old women and courtesans, and for this reason they go through their lives without children. On the plus side, this seems to minimize the chance of secret enemies trying to undo the native, as there tends not to be real hatred. If blackmail happens, it would be opportunistic"

hmmm...

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aqua inferno
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posted August 05, 2007 11:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL! I love Saggies but no that was prolly someone else - my memory sucks but I'm pretty certain I'd remember if I were gay

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Bluemoon
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posted August 05, 2007 11:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol, aqua, you are too funny.

I only have chiron in 12 H.

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Highly_Inflammable
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posted August 05, 2007 11:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol... @ Aqua.


yeah your memory in any case must be more dependable than my understanding ... I have a way of reading opposite of what is written... ... if I have to find an astrological excuse for all my short coming... now I am gonna put this in account of my "moon in 12 th House" as well...

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aqua inferno
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posted August 05, 2007 11:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I gotta ask - do you guys feel afraid about expressing the energy of your 12th house planet? Cause the thought alone scares the hell outta me!

DL did you seem like you lacked discipline but in fact are a closet-capricorn?
Wow Uranus must be interesting, do you “hide” your unique side? Neptune is fortunate in the 12th! one less thing to worry about!

Neptunel I totally forgot Venus is relationships! Btw *I think* Venus is fortunate in the 12th

Hey bm, how've you been hun? I'm not entirely sure what chiron is/represents *embarrassed*

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aqua inferno
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posted August 05, 2007 11:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"yeah your memory in any case must be more dependable than my understanding ... I have a way of reading opposite of what is written... ... if I have to find an astrological excuse for all my short coming... now I am gonna put this in account of my "moon in 12 th House" as well..."

lol!! ahh conveniently long-sighted, I've got that too
I usually blame Moon and Mars - they're so pesky and ruin the ensemble that is my chart

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Highly_Inflammable
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posted August 05, 2007 11:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol Aqua.. you are KOOL..

I have a lotta "derranged placements"... it is quite a challenge to Live Up to all the Evil or Nastiness I am supposed to have...

arrogant ***** ... Moon in Leo
High headness, Bossy ... Mars in Aries.
and when I have something 'indecisiveness' and 'lack of confidence on my own abilities'.. I have a "Saturn Opposition Mars" and "Sun Opposition Saturn"..
and so on...
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With all due respect to Astrological principles... I am a law unto myself.. I can change, I can improve if I want to.. If I work... no planet (sun, moon, mars) can stop me.. or anyone else..

ha ha.. but for now.. yes for my convenient long sightedness.. it is a perfect cover..

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Dulce Luna
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posted August 05, 2007 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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DL did you seem like you lacked discipline but in fact are a closet-capricorn?
Wow Uranus must be interesting, do you “hide” your unique side? Neptune is fortunate in the 12th! one less thing to worry about!

About the discipline; it really kind of depends on the phase in my life and the situational thing. Maybe to other people I seemingly lack it, I dunno. I always thought with the virgo moon people could sense it.

On uranus; maybe as an adolescent when everyone wanted to be the same...I hid my uniqueness. Today, I really don't care anymore.

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Love
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posted August 05, 2007 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, well let's see...I have Sun, Mercury and Venus in the 12th. And a few asteroids: Pallas, Vesta, Isis, and Osiris.

I have to say that when I was younger (I'm now 31) I felt the 12th house planets more than I do now. Of course, my Sun and Venus are conjunct the Ascendant (and Isis, all in Cancer) so that probably helps.

Since Mercury conjuncts Pallas (in Gemini), I used to have a hard time standing up for myself and saying what I needed to say.

Vesta and Osiris conjunct so I think that has had an influence on my life as well since they are conjuncting Mercury and Pallas as well. I think this may have more to do with giving my power away in relationships, but I'm definitely working through that as well.

At this point in my life, I feel like I've managed to overcome a lot of the repressive stuff associated with my 12th house planets, but I'm still working on the asteroids

Edit*** Oh yeah, and my Sun/Moon midpoint is in the 12th conjuncted by Pallas and Mercury too. Don't ask me what that means...

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Bluemoon
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posted August 05, 2007 02:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron in the 12th house: As always, Chiron shows where we can do more for others than ourselves. A 12th house Chiron may compulsively try to take care of the poor the sick, and the unfortunate while neglecting their own needs and those of their own family. Conversely, there may be malingering and the person with this placement may themselves always seem in "need" because of one (frequently self-caused) "problem" after another. This placement tends to make a person feel tired and fatigued. If you have this one, be sure to get plenty of rest.


This is what I found when I googled it. I am not sure it is accurate.

Hello, AquaInfurno! How is life treating you?

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Azalaksh
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posted August 05, 2007 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O Inferno-ish One
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I gotta ask - do you guys feel afraid about expressing the energy of your 12th house planet? Cause the thought alone scares the hell outta me!
Sometimes.....
As it's Pluto conj Asc
Don't wanna instigate WWIII.....

Z

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libraschoice7
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posted August 05, 2007 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Having both Jupiter and Moon in 12th is difficult, there are many times I feel like people don't hear or see me...at least in the way I want them to, my emotions seem very hidden to people and alot of times it surprises them to hear me cry.

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

I "FEEL" therefor I am

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mudmama
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posted August 05, 2007 02:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, I've always seen at as what we keep hidden.

I've Sun in the 12th, Pluto conj Uranus and Jupiter in the 12th (Jupiter is *technically* in the 11th but sits on the cups, my 12th house is 21 Vir 1' and Jupiter sits 20 Vir 47')

How I've seen this? Usually as an extention of the old Moon, things hidden from the public eye. not sure if this is how this plays out with others but the following is what is apparent to only those who are closest to me.

Sun: I'm shy, secretive, intensely private at times. I prefer solitude and quiet.

Uranus: all things odd, strange and unusual appeal to me

Pluto: my tendency to completely destroy aspects of my life and start over.

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