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Alia
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posted August 30, 2007 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hello everyone...
i am trying to figure out an intricate situation related to nodes and axises between me and the person i d like to be with...

i was reading that the SN person holds the knife s handle ,is the one with the power who magnetically draws the other...is getting the payback of the karmic debt from the planet person. Conjunctions of the Ascendant, luminaries or personal planets to either Node, but especially the South, are the most powerfully tying synastric contacts. - in my case he is the SN taurus , i'm Venus taurus .
So, i get the lame part, which is the NN, conjuncting his: A)Venus - he s a taurus venus as well and our venuses conjunct tightly- , B) Jupiter,C)Sun and D)his... SN!!!

As a counterpart,my SN conjuncts his Uranus,
but since is not a personal planet he probably doesnt owe me jack****...(!!!!)

but what do I do with the Nodes of the situation? my SN is conjunct his NN and of course his SN is conj. to my NN.
who owes who in this situation?

as if that wasnt enough complicate,there s the axis bonus, my AC conj. his DC and his AC conj. my DC.His moon is in my 1stH.

So,is it possible that i ve paid my karmic debt by suffering for him and i probably wont see him anymore, or is there still work to do between us and he will be back?
Izo if you read this I really need yr opinion! you are the nodes expert!I know u already posted in my other thread but now im reading more and i m getting discouraged by the NN,which i thought was a winner to my side.
because it really happened, he was the SN and I was the Venus and he did the break and I m the one in pain and even with all his planets conjunctin my NN, im feeling lost and powerless and clueless.
I thought the NN was the strongest but i was obviously wrong.

thank you for listening to my rant and if you make any sense out of this please post some feedback!

peace and joy ~ Alia

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izodesmozina
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posted August 30, 2007 02:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/002849.html

Hi, Alia!

That link will bring some light. I'm not the Node expert just a student.
Keep it simple: planet owes the South Node person. If it's not a planet and the Nodes fall on an axis, therefore having something on the NN and something on the SN, it is not about a debt, but it is karmic.
I do not mean to discourage you, but I've had the Venus-SN aspect with someone. I was the South Node. We didn't have Node-axis contacts, nor other planets on the NN; just South Node conjunctions - karma from the past that needed to be sorted out and when it did, the relationship ended, because it belonged in the past. Venus owes the SN person; the SN person is the one more likely to make the first move FOR the relationship and also OUT of it. It is the aspect of past life lovers. In my case, we didn't have other aspects that would indicate a future, something that would pull us further once the debt was paid - but you two have this.

I hope this helped. Take care and good luck!

Izo

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venusdeindia
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posted August 30, 2007 02:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi alia
i m answering as per sidereal astrology here.
according to our old traditions SN is where karma flows in , and NN where it flows out, depending on factors like house involved, sign, and aspects from other planets.
also have u considered a draco charts analysis
http://www.astrologycosmobiology.com.au/draconic_chart.html http://www.solsticepoint.com/dragontxt.htm http://www.soularastrology.com/

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Love
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posted August 30, 2007 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
venusdeindia ~ what do you mean by karma flowing in and out?

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Alia
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From: az
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posted August 30, 2007 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you both for yr replies...
Izo, i was reading that link you sent me..
incredible,just what you said, he started the relationship and he walked out.
-well sort of since he keeps sending me messages once a month saying 'we ll talk soon' and another month of silence follows

what kind of karmic relation could be with the nodes falling on an axis?
unfortunately he s having saturn transit on his natal moon in 7th , so i can see him wanting to stay away from women. especially older women!-saturn-

so in your case,being the SN ,did you end it bcs you didnt feel anymore love? or you still loved him but felt it wasnt going nowhere and decided to end it?
since we kind of had a similar experience,are you by any chance an aries/leo with moon in libra,like i am?

Venus thank you for the links ... where can i get a draconic chart?

thanks again

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