posted November 15, 2007 10:49 PM              

Pluto is about to Conjunct my venus also.

posted November 16, 2007 12:22 AM            

I changed a lot that year. It's when I finally started feeling compelled to make the way I outwardly related with others reflect the way I felt inwardly. I used to keep a distance in my personal relationships, even with the people who I loved very much and felt very close to. I wasn't good at opening up or revealing the full extent of my feelings for them, or the full extent of who I was. But with that transit, I became comfortable with my more intense emotions & needed to share them with others. I also wanted to share all of who I was, not just the light, fun and detached side. My boyf at the time wasn't someone very comfortable with the emotional side of life. That had been something that originally attracted me to him...I wanted someone who was fun to be with, no drama, just someone to relax & enjoy life with. But once Pluto hit, that wasn't enough for me anymore. Even though I still loved who he was, I was no longer satisfied with that level of relating and I broke up with him. Later that year, I got involved with someone more compatible with me emotionally (we're still together).

Intimate relationships hadn't been a big focus for me before the Pluto transit, probably b/c I wasn't comfortable yet with experiencing a deep connection. My focus was much more on school, work, hobbies, friends, & my own thoughts. So there's definitely a clear difference between how I loved before the transit & how I loved after. I think t.Pluto conjunct my Sun & Neptune affected me in this way b/c Neptune is the ruler of my 5th house. Also, it's the area of life where I needed transformation in that way. But that transformation made me a better partner in all types of relationships, not just in the romantic kind (I'm a better friend, daughter, etc. now.)

posted November 16, 2007 01:27 AM              

Thank you for writing so much on this. I am a Sag also. Pluto has been in our sign for 12 yrs. It is time for it to move on.

posted November 16, 2007 01:55 AM            

I'd be interested in hearing how t.Pluto on your Sun affected you, if you'd like to share.

posted November 16, 2007 09:52 AM            

Its also therefore been quincunxing my sun for a long, though I really don't know if that really plays into everything.

posted November 16, 2007 10:43 PM              

I think we might have more than a few similiar aspects. I have Sun, Merc,Mars and Neptune in Sag. Of course as I already mentioned Venus in Capricorn. Were you born in December 76?

About Pluto. When it first entered into Sag back in 95 I immediately began to feel its effect on my life. At 19 I got married, the girl I was with had my son and I joined the Army. The Army represented everything plutonian to me. Im sure every soldier could relate when say i had the meanest drill intructors in the service. These DI's woke my a-s-s up. I grew up lacking a male role model so this was Pluto's way of saying it's ok, we can make up for lost time in a little short while. Life was more real to me, i felt it very deep, on an emotional level. Everything was much more richer to me. Hearing from my family, my girl, my dad and mom, listening to music, seeing pictures of my son. My senses were heightened and very sensitive. Everything had new meaning, i felt refreshed, like i had taken a spiritual shower.

Pluto was never through with me though. I divorced the girl I was with, i took that hard even though I didnt want be with her anymore. The seperation chattered my illusion of what true love is. I moved from So-Cal to Nor-Cal and started my life new. All the while I was struggling with accepting that my life, the way I knew it in the past, was over.

With Pluto, everyday is a day at the cemetery. The death of "you" is fresh, the silence that comes from the pain of your loss shows on your face( black piercing eyes, you can outstare anyone cause you are living hard)

Pluto continued on. I met another girl I thought I would marry. I loved her more than anything. We were together five years when we split. The whole relationship was pure passion. It was full of power struggles. Love and Hate. When it was over, it was another death, another day at the cemetery. I grieved hard for the loss, but it made me harder.

I also lost my youngest sister to cancer. The pain of her loss was ongoing from the year she died, 2002 to 2006. I would find myself crying at least once a week and gradually to once a month, to finally nothing but good memories without the extreme pain.

posted November 17, 2007 01:10 AM              

Jane - thanks for that info! Transitting pluto is gonna be conjuncting my sun, as well. It's also gonna set off my sun-mars-natal pluto t-square, so I think I'm in for a bumpy ride! lol In fact, I think I'm already starting to feel it, even though I've still got some time. I don't know if you know this but, in retrospect, did you feel it before it actually made the aspect?

posted November 17, 2007 08:40 AM              

With this transit, I could say that everyday I am my own emotional psychologist and life-coach, as well for other people since my moon is also in the 7th(relating to others). There hasn't been a day this year that I was not open to something that could potentially hurt me, but I was not in fear of it, I wanted to test myself if I was doing my "soul work" and learning how not to take things so seriously especially if it targeted to wound me. Relating to life and people becomes a quiet research for deeper meanings in life and how to bounce back when things fall hard. Also, my memories have came up at inconvenient times, forcing me to look back into my past and the people who have done me wrong. Even if it goes as far back as elementary school teachers, the primal urge to strike revenge was emotionally cleansing. Like a firewalk to just forgive and forget and move on. It's hard but I think it was time to really face up to the buried resentments I have held for so long.

Now, I find myself more in the company of women now who are also very business oriented(Capricorn, go figure). I think I am attracted to this group type because they are strong women themselves, whereas I have lived in a male-dominated circle who were just reckless with my emotions and my well being. Needless to say, they were reckless with their own lives and I needed to survive on my own -- I needed to be ten times more braver than they would be, to prove to them who was the one they couldn't have a friend without.

I don't relate lightly anymore, or as I should say that I've got so much more important things to worry about than juvenile issues most people carry around. I've also cut many friendships that served me no purpose, which was hard, but I needed to cut my losses: people who lived cliche routines, had dreams but backed up with no action, people who were just emotional vampires, or people who were just not good for me, or people who just mean well but come up short. I could not afford to go on like this.

That is blessing because I save a lot of emotional energy and time with these people. The more dirt and grime I find in the emotional mess I am in, the more capable and knowledgeable I become coping with life. The best way to really handle all of this is just be true to yourself, be open and freeing to the experience that comes, and know that you are not alone in this. I find myself alone thinking this is just only happening to me, and that I could NEVER find someone to relate this with, but oh how wrong and ironic(my Moon in 7th) that statement was. There are millions of people who are experiencing this, and much heavier transits as well. So if you're just at loss, find or help someone who is going through something so much worse. It helps to help another.

posted November 19, 2007 09:32 PM            

How would pluto effect an intercepted sign in capricorn in the first house?

posted November 19, 2007 09:52 PM              

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With Pluto, everyday is a day at the cemetery. The death of "you" is fresh, the silence that comes from the pain of your loss shows on your face( black piercing eyes, you can outstare anyone cause you are living hard)

I am born again hard now. No one can get to me. The daily grind and everyday affairs are minor by comparison to everything i went through. I see the whole thing like one big basic training. All of it to make me tougher and make me a man.

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That is how I feel. I have moon, venus, mars, jupiter, and neptune in sag. Pluto beat the living crap out of me and then kicked me when I was down. Hard. So, I'm feelin' ya.

I like how you wrote that, too.

It didn't make me a man because I'm a woman. But I know what you're saying.

I can't wait until it moves out!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm so looking forward to it.

posted November 22, 2007 01:52 AM            

martian - I was born in Dec '79. The Sun & Neptune are my only planets in Sag.

You write so evocatively. Your description here landed me right back in my Pluto transit.

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Life was more real to me, i felt it very deep, on an emotional level. Everything was much more richer to me..My senses were heightened and very sensitive. Everything had new meaning, i felt refreshed, like i had taken a spiritual shower.

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All the while I was struggling with accepting that my life, the way I knew it in the past, was over.

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I'm so sorry about the loss of your little sister. I've lost people close to me, but it's a whole different experience when it's someone in your immediate family, especially someone younger than you.

Such heartbreaking, challenging events happened in your life during your Pluto transit. Perhaps Pluto there gave you the faith that you had the inner strength to get through it all.

patisserie -

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Relating to life and people becomes a quiet research for deeper meanings in life and how to bounce back when things fall hard.

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I find myself alone thinking this is just only happening to me, and that I could NEVER find someone to relate this with, but oh how wrong and ironic

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posted November 22, 2007 01:55 AM            

Astra - For me, Pluto didn't make painful things happen. I did grow a lot emotionally during that time, especially my Pluto-Neptune conjunction, and that was a painful experience for me. But the pain was inside me; life wasn't being any meaner to me. In fact, life went pretty easy on me during my Pluto transits. Another thing, some intensely pleasurable things happened during my Pluto transits. Stop reading this if you're uncomfortable with talk about sex, particularly talk that firmly lands in the TMI category. Ok, now you can't say I didn't warn you. It was during my Pluto transit that I started experiencing multiple orgasms. I had thought that I'd already been experiencing them, but that was b/c I misunderstood what they were. Once I started experiencing them, I realized the other experience didn't even come close. Pun intended. Maybe the timing was just a coincidence, but I won't take any chances, and will honor the great, kind planet that is Pluto forevermore.

Maybe this happened b/c the transit was occurring in my 2nd house, which is associated with the body. Also, I have Neptune in there, which rules my 5th house, connecting sex and the body.