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sinderlou
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posted November 24, 2007 10:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was wondering if someone that has a cancer sun and asc would have more cancerian traits emotionally (since the two are combined) than a person who has a cancer moon.

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BLKFox
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posted November 24, 2007 10:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe the person with cancer moon would, at least on the surface, seem more cancerian. I have Sun & Asc in Libra, but that is obscured by my capricorn moon (conj with jupiter),venus in scorpio & mars conj pluto in Leo---all very intense aspects...people almost never guess Sun in Libra

Where is your moon, mars & venus?

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NAM
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posted November 24, 2007 11:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have cancer sun and moon.

I couldn't tell you what the difference is between the two, even know I have read so much about it.

But I do know very wel when I am acting my sag ascendant.

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tidalwave
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posted November 24, 2007 03:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a Cancer Sun & Asc. I have a Gemini Moon though, and I feel like that really helps me balance out the double Cancer. I think if you had a Cancer moon you'd feel things more like a true Cancer....not completely sure though.

Maybe check out descriptions of each?

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cancer sun
gemini moon
cancer asc.

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sinderlou
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posted November 24, 2007 03:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
tidalwave,

this person has a sag moon. So you say that you don't feel quite cancerian because of the gem moon then?

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Hermes28
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posted November 24, 2007 05:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'm no astro expert, but from what I've noticed...

All three placements are sensitive and emotional.

The Asc is the most outward expression of the sign. It's the moodiest, most nurturing, and caring. Super clingy, & snappy.

The Sun is the bossiest, cheapest, and pettiest. This one holds the grudges.

The Moon is the sweetest of the three. With vulnerable (please don't hurt me) watery eyes.

I attract the Rising and Mars more than any other sign placements.

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posted November 24, 2007 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Cancer Sun and Ascendant (as well as Venus) and I feel pretty Cancerian most of the time. I have a Taurus Moon which I am grateful for since it helps to balance things out for me. But I am very sensitive and I am always told that I have a nurturing 'thing' about me. And I do cry easily.

BTW, I'm definitely NOT cheap, despite these placements and I don't think I'm petty either. I've been told that I don't always seem like a typical Cancer but then I believe that there are different ways that each person can choose to display their inherent characteristics. If I'm in a place of fear then I am far more likely to behave in a clingy, moody fashion. The more I attempt to stay in a place of conscious awareness and balance, the less my 'negative' traits arise.

My Dad has a Cancer Moon and I agree with the watery eye thing - ha! He has a quiet, sensitive way about him although he is a Gemini.

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stillatlarge
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posted November 24, 2007 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have ascendant, Mars and Venus in Cancer and I can't answer that. I have Aqua moon and Sun Leo(Thank God). The only thing I like about my cancerian placements is the intuition, that I can cook, and I'm good in bed. I hate the insecurity and the way we always think a yes or a compliment is obligatory. I don't think I have the bad traits of the sign or they are just very dominated by the Leo/Aqua. I really can't stand Cancerian women. I have two very evil ones in my family who scarred me for life. I like the Cancerian men though.

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Virgo/Aries75
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posted November 24, 2007 11:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"The Moon is the sweetest of the three. With vulnerable (please don't hurt me) watery eyes."

Awww, my son has a Cancer moon and this is sooo true.

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NeptunianFire
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posted November 25, 2007 09:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"The Asc is the most outward expression of the sign. It's the moodiest, most nurturing, and caring. Super clingy, & snappy.

The Sun is the bossiest, cheapest, and pettiest. This one holds the grudges.

The Moon is the sweetest of the three. With vulnerable (please don't hurt me) watery eyes."

Cancer Rising also holds grudges pretty hard as well. Along with the moodiness. I agree that Cancer Moon is the sweetest of the Big Three. They are very sensitive, but won't snap back at people when hurt. And the eyes...yes, they have those big, watery eyes. They are too cute.

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rusalka
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posted November 25, 2007 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rusalka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have sun, moon and venus in cancer. too moody, too sensitive, too dominative......
i am thankful for my aqua ascendant for my free spirit and flexibility!

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sinderlou
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posted November 26, 2007 02:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it seems like the cancer moon is the way to go and the cancer sun asc combo is bringing out the clinginess and cheapness This is good input thus far. thanks........

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jupitersgirl
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posted November 26, 2007 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a cancer ascendant and I'm not clingy at all.

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Love
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posted November 26, 2007 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And as I mentioned, I am soooo not cheap. I'm, like, the opposite.

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Green Fairy
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posted November 26, 2007 07:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
I'm no astro expert, but from what I've noticed...

All three placements are sensitive and emotional.

The Asc is the most outward expression of the sign. It's the moodiest, most nurturing, and caring. Super clingy, & snappy.

The Sun is the bossiest, cheapest, and pettiest. This one holds the grudges.

The Moon is the sweetest of the three. With vulnerable (please don't hurt me) watery eyes.

I attract the Rising and Mars more than any other sign placements.


I'm not cheap[!] or petty. Bossy, sometimes.
Clingy at my own expense.

[cancer sun and moon]

I'd like to know more about Cancer rising though, i've read somewhere that it's a "transparent" rising sign [adopts the qualities of the moon and the sun of the individual with that placement].

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sinderlou
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posted November 27, 2007 11:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Love

I know someone with the sun gem and moon cancer placement and they appear way more toned down that a typical gem. Way more sensitive but still talkative and very funny. Is your dad into comedy and joking around alot? this person is.

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EighthMoon
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posted December 15, 2007 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Sinderlou,

Someone posted this link about Cancer Moons on another thread. (I can never remember where I read things and I hate not giving proper credit!)

Anywho...I thought it was very thorough!

"MOON IN CANCER

Cancer is the queen of the Moon signs. Both the Moon and the sign of Cancer symbolize the mother, mundane and divine, and the Moon’s placement here suggests the role of the mother will be centrally important. Astrologically, the Moon is strong in Cancer, which emphasizes, even exaggerates, all things lunar – for better or worse. Cancer Moon is the queen of the cosmic zodiac court, symbolizing the principles of nurturing, protection, mental and emotional well-being, general good fortune, feelings, intuition, psychic abilities, digestion, house and home, land and place of birth, and relation to the feminine archetype, to name but a few.

THE SENSITIVE CRAB

One of the most important, but not immediately obvious, qualities of a Moon in Cancer is the need to protect name, reputation, appearance and personal dignity. Some may say that is important to everyone, but it is not quite as important to some as to others. The Cancer Moon is quintessentially sensitive, possibly one of the most sensitive Moon signs, and very private. Their inner world is sacred to them and they don’t easily share it with others. They tend to be guarded and even defensive when it comes to revealing their vulnerabilities, hopes and desires.

It is not by accident that the ancients attributed the symbol of the crab to this part of the zodiac. In fact, there are many good reasons, especially when the Moon is in Cancer. A crab, with its soft interior, is quite vulnerable. Its shell, sometimes natural and sometimes burrowed, protects it from its harsh environment. It is its primary defense and its source of safety. A Cancer Moon also has a delicate inner emotional world. Cancer is the first Water sign in the zodiac and a Cancer Moon can experience waves of emotion that defy description but which are also expressed most easily as tears of silence. The shell for a Cancer Moon is their well-developed and cultivated reputation and appearance.

In simple terms, the defense mechanism of Cancer is the presentation of an image that keeps you from getting inside too easily. This is especially pronounced with a Cancer Moon. It’s almost as though their external personality will keep you busy while they gradually begin feeling comfortable with you and learn to trust you. It is doubtful that you will ever find a Cancer Moon giving things away too easily when you first meet them. It takes time to develop a relationship with them and don’t be surprised if you have to continually prove yourself along the way – and even much later in the relationship. Reaffirmation is a valued safety mechanism for them and in close personal relationships they will frequently like to know if everything is OK. The paradox of a Cancer Moon is that the emotional ego is strong, or lets say influential, much more so than the external ego, but it’s the external ego that you need to get past in order to understand how they work and here their real strengths lie.

THE INTUITIVE HOMEMAKER

Cancer Moons are often good providers, good business people, and can be socially active, especially when an issue hits close to home. They are strong and determined – even dogged. Setting their mind to a task means it will get done and they won’t stop until it is. They are durable, ever more so when the odds are stacked against them, as long as they don’t give in to their periodic melancholies or emotional insecurities. Their strong spirit makes them tremendous allies. If they are on your side, you can rely on them, as long as circumstances do not conspire to threaten their safety, hearth and home. They are mortified when compromised by adversity or fate and tend to carry such wounds with them for a long time. In general, their loyalty, especially in love, earns them a good reputation.

The Cancer Moon is nostalgia personified. Early life experiences create their emotional fabric and where this has been traumatic, they will take a good deal of time to work through their issues – well into their middle age or beyond. The best medicine for any hurting Cancer Moon is lots of love and affection, a loyal partner who can mother them a little, putting a salve of reassurance on their hurts.

Like other Water signs, Cancer Moons are sometimes known for their psychic abilities. They rely more on gut instincts than they are comfortable admitting. This is because they are usually quite well informed, down-to-earth people and like to make ‘practical decisions’ based on realism. Yet the more a Cancer Moon relies on their intuition, the more reliable it comes. The well-known American psychic Lucille Van Tassel is a good example of a Cancer Moon intuition, as she demonstrated her abilities from an early age and ranked in the top three gifted psychics tested in 400 other tests. While her case is exceptional and well supported by the other factors in her chart, most Cancer Moons have a premonitions and deeper insights than many of us. This is especially helpful to them when they lack the hard evidence they need. It’s certain that they will tell you about the times they ignored their intuition only to regret it later. For this and other reasons the Cancer Moon can appear eccentric or unusual and not be easily understood at first. On first meeting them it quickly becomes obvious that they march to their own drum, even if the beat is irregular.

Because the Moon symbolizes the mind and mental processes, Cancer Moons also tend to rely on their mental powers. The idea of mind over matter is natural for them, because they have often experienced it. This, too, can contribute to their ‘peculiar’ side, especially when it comes to explaining how it is they have formulated their thoughts and conclusions. It is this trait that lends originality to their ideas.

Cancer Moons make good providers and can sacrifice a lot for the greater good of their loved ones. They know where their priorities lie and are industrious in going about ensuring the safety and protection of those in their care. If this appeals to you then a Cancer Moon will make a perfect partner. This is especially true for a Capricorn Moon, who is also industrious and is willing to shoulder more than their share of the burden to keep things on an even keel.

Expect that a Cancer Moon will put lots of energy and attention into the home. A Taurus Moon thinks of home as a castle, whereas a Cancer Moon sees it as a sanctuary – the secret hiding place away from the prying eyes and busybodies, the place to cuddle and be secure. Assuming that other factors in the chart are supportive, they will love to decorate their home, making it very cozy, especially their bathroom and kitchen – food is our primary nurturing agent, so expect that a Cancer Moon loves to cook, or at least has a specialized palette. Home for a Cancer Moon is an important place of solitude and regeneration, symbolizing a reclusive part of their character that needs regular private time to remain physically and mentally healthy.

One of their quirky motivations is their silent competiveness or sense of social striving that urges them to keep up with the standards that others are setting. This can make them victims of fashion, desirous of the latest gadgets or keen to improve the garden or add an extension to the house and create a prestige and monetary value. They like to keep up with the Joneses.

Their ideal home has an ocean or water view, which mirrors their nature and is an impetus to their spirit and the uninhibited flow of thoughts and emotions. Water is the perfect stimulus for Cancer Moon’s creativity, even if all they have is the bath. They appreciate natural materials: wood, plants, fountains and the like, and also fine furnishing that are well designed, good quality and made from natural materials. Cancer Moons are born naturalists and enjoy being close to nature. Do you like pets? Animals are often Cancer favorites, helping them connect with their own deeply buried primitif within.

In cases where they don’t get the home in good order (a rare occurrence) they feel out of place, unsettled and disconnected. This can be very unsettling to them and emotionally things will not be calm and peaceful in a Cancer Moon home that lacks the basic comforts (and then some). Don’t forget that the home is analogous to their crab shell.

ENTERING THE SHELL

However, the Cancer Moon makes a great partner – warm, loving, affectionate, caring and protective. They can be very nurturing in their approach to relationships, as one would expect from a Moon in the sign that symbolizes mother and the home. This caring extends to close friends, family members, lovers – anyone who has been patient enough to be accepted into the inner sanctum of their emotional well-being. Cancer Moons make affectionate partners and, like other Water signs, are hopeless romantics. They love to be courted, or to do the courting, and can be quite lavish and demonstrative when it comes to creating a good impression. If you have caught the eye of a Cancer Moon, expect flowers and lots of little whatnots that say ‘I love you’. If you do get something, don’t forget to show lots of appreciation, especially for the thoughtfulness and originality of their choice.

If you do forget, it is easy and natural for a Cancer to bear a grudge for a long time – especially when they feel neglected or that their reputation has been injured. If this happens they will make strong efforts to publicize their version of the story, well before you have even thought of acting. They won’t forget it, either. Cancer Moons have an amazing memory, especially when it comes to affairs of the heart. In a moment they can recall the slightest detail about an exchange you had with them when you first met 15 years ago (try your best to remember please), or even the way they felt when you forgot something important to them, which is relatively trivial to others. In more difficult cases, the memory of a relationship gone wrong can bind them to repeat negative behavior patterns by unconsciously seeking similar situations. To avoid this, the Cancer Moon needs to consciously confront their hurt and let go of it to avoid becoming bitter and limiting the scope for future emotional contentment.

Their long memory can skew their perceptions not because they are emotionally rooted, but because they tend to look forward by looking at the past. This is the part of their protective mechanism – they don’t want to go to unsafe places and they tend to judge the new by reaching for what they know. They love to take stock of a situation by comparing it to past experiences, and often wistfully reminiscing about major events and milestones in their lives. If they are consciously aware of this tendency, they can use it to further their life aims by visualizing positive experiences and validations, projecting them forward in time away from the current situation. This is especially helpful when they are facing challenging and threatening circumstances.

The downside of Cancer Moons’ great memories can affect their relationships when, for instance, a new friend or lover is unintentionally made to feel that they either have to live up to the past or to do better – which, as we all know, is a real pain. The best way to deal with this is to be sweetly direct and point it out to them. In doing so, remember that they are sensitive and even if they don’t immediately acknowledge that they heard you, they probably did."
http://groups.msn.com/ZombiesUnderground/lunarcancerinlove.msnw

There's more on the link as well as descriptions for each of the sun and moon signs. It's the moon sign descriptions that I found to be some of the best out there so far!

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posted December 15, 2007 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sinderlou

Yeah, that's exactly how my Dad is. Much quieter than a normal Gem, more sensitive too I think but he's always, always making silly little jokes. We call them Daddy-jokes since they're usually terrible puns.

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