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pidaua
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posted January 06, 2008 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chill.... take a deep breath. You almost sound like you have a vested interest in the woman. Unless you have her drug results over the last few years in your hands, I doubt you know the real story. I don't think any of us will understand what makes up Britney, we can only go by her actions.

She would not have shaved her head if there wasn't a worry over drug use. Hair keeps track of every drug you use for as long as the hair is. She knew this and she made an a$$ out of herself.

She lost custody of her kids, which indicates the courts felt just cause (from the evidence presented) that she was a danger to her children.

She has to have a court appointed monitor when she is with her kids. They don't do that for fun- they had to have cause, again based on compelling evidence.

Too many times people wrap themselves too tightly with a specific celebrity to the point that when that celebrity is being held accountable, they feel as though they are the ones being persecuted.


Edited to add- this article has some interesting facts;
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/0601_britney.shtml

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CRAZED BRITNEY swallowed a deadly cocktail of more than ONE HUNDRED prescription tablets in the 36 hours before her custody meltdown, the News of the World can reveal.
And the singer washed them all down with a Purple Monster— a mind-blowing home-made cocktail of vodka, American Nyquil anti-flu syrup and an energy drink like Red Bull.

A long-term friend of the star told us: "It looks like everything in her medicine cabinet went down her neck. It seems she was only saved from falling into a coma as the drugs in her system almost counteracted each other."

The cocktail included:

TWO bottles of Nyquil

TWENTY diet pills, including her favourite brand Clenbuterol.

EIGHTEEN herbal uppers specially ordered over the internet.

EIGHTEEN Piriton antihistamine tablets

TWELVE Vicodin painkillers

TEN sleeping pills

UP TO eight antacid reflux tabs

ONE bottle of stomach upset mixture Pepto Bismol

TEN Zantac tablets, an anti-hangover and indigestion drug.

SIX Ritalin, for her attention deficit disorder issues.

TWO empty bottles of painkiller Oxycontin, known as hillbilly heroin, were also found at her home.

Her pal said: "Britney is always taking something to ease her nerves or keep her weight down.

"But her instability meant she just wanted an instant cure to all her anxieties, so she just kept taking more and more drugs and drink until she felt it worked.

"She told us she made a Purple Monster to calm her nerves. She has had this weird concoction in the past, and only takes it when she is seriously disturbed."

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Braveheart,

yesterday i was reading a magazine where Brad and Angelina were see as Couple of the Year.

Yes,i´ve red sth like that taken from an interview she did.

She said that Shillow is a very privileged child since the day she was born cause she´s their biological child - of two very famous and powerfull persons - and so,she feels more " compelled" to see her adpted children as more fragile and needing caring - she taken them from awful places with tragedy histories of hunger and violence - i understőod what she meant by that.

It´s not that she treats them diferently,giving others more loving or caring - she said that all received love and higher cares in same proporcion.

Parents have a thing: when having more than 1 child,there´s always one who is more fragile.its sth they feel inside you know. That same "weakness" makes them to somehow treat the child diferently,trying to ease their Path,retiring the bigger rocks off the Path..i think it was sth like that she wanted to say.

Brad said also that she has a very strong personality and not everyone understands her affirmations and meanings - when she talks to the Press - i see that as he defending her in a pretty way.He also said wants to have 6 or 7 children more,biologically or not

From my point of view,all their children will be very happy,aware of how the World works and the variety of realities there are - they will know they are privileged but somehow they will also know how to help and give importance to what really matters.

It´s a matter of education - for me that´s what i was talking about.
The two are trying to separate the children of the Hollywood Living cause they see all these awful happenings and they know it´s maybe the worst cenarios for a child to grow up in an healthy way.

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posted January 09, 2008 03:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I seldom fret about the life of the rich and infamous but, I felt compelled to weigh in here:

Britney CHOSE to be a celebrity. There are child actors who've said they've known they were meant to be in show business since they were six years old.

Britney CHOSE to marry whom she did!

Britney CHOSE to have two kids by this man.

Britney CHOSE not to wear undergarments, shave her hair, add more tattoos and the like. Even while she KNEW she was a target for the papparazzi.

Now, if the girl has a mental condition (which I do believe she does or, at the very least, is suffering from a prolonged nervous breakdown) she, as a 25 year-old mother of two, can CHOOSE to seek treatment!

There are working mothers out there who don't have the benefit of wealth and they manage to pull themselves together!

Its not that I don't have any sympathy...from what I understand, people who are in such pain suffer from skewed perception BUT, if she has the ability to go out and party then she can also CHOOSE to seek help!

Oh, and by the way....what does her mother have to do that is so much MORE important than look out for her two train-wreck daughters???

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posted January 09, 2008 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When your a Celebrity especially a young one starting out you need people around you to keep you grounded. I don't think that Britney has ever had that and from what I am seeing neither does her lil sister. The entertainment world seems all glitzy and glamour but its also a very cold and dark place to those who does not have family and friends to keep things in perspective for them. Britneys parents just let her go make that money and that was it. Yes she is grown now and should be responsible for her own actions but there was no foundation set just on money and making it, now she is lost and has no idea. She needs to take Dr. Phils hand and let him try and help her since her parents could not do it. Parents have to be all in their kids affairs when they are young and in that world and even if they are not in that world but this world. For the Young celebs who parents were you know how they are bc they act like they have some sense..Bottom line she needs to grow up, she makes Kevin Federline look like a saint..

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posted January 09, 2008 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

It seems like mental illness runs in the family. Britney's paternal grandmother committed suicide at the age of 31 years old
Emma Jean Spears left behind four other children, including Britney's father, Jamie Spears, then an eighth grader. Two of Jamie Spears' brothers ended up with criminal records and homeless. http://usmagazine.com/britney_teaser_draft?page=3&live=1

It seems that she claims to have ADHD after failing a drug test that showed that she has amphetamine in her system. http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/britney-spears-now-claims-attention-deficit-disorder/


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posted January 09, 2008 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cry me a river. Nobody is trying to kill her. Britney need to stop the pity party before she gets better. I agree with the following:

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I seldom fret about the life of the rich and infamous but, I felt compelled to weigh in here:

Britney CHOSE to be a celebrity. There are child actors who've said they've known they were meant to be in show business since they were six years old.

Britney CHOSE to marry whom she did!

Britney CHOSE to have two kids by this man.

Britney CHOSE not to wear undergarments, shave her hair, add more tattoos and the like. Even while she KNEW she was a target for the papparazzi.

Now, if the girl has a mental condition (which I do believe she does or, at the very least, is suffering from a prolonged nervous breakdown) she, as a 25 year-old mother of two, can CHOOSE to seek treatment!

There are working mothers out there who don't have the benefit of wealth and they manage to pull themselves together!

Its not that I don't have any sympathy...from what I understand, people who are in such pain suffer from skewed perception BUT, if she has the ability to go out and party then she can also CHOOSE to seek help!

Oh, and by the way....what does her mother have to do that is so much MORE important than look out for her two train-wreck daughters???


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posted January 09, 2008 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
judge not, that ye be not judged

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posted January 09, 2008 04:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"judge not, that ye be not judged"
Amen to that, Peri!

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posted January 09, 2008 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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judge not, that ye be not judged

Then, don't judge the papparazi either. They're doing their J. O. B., providing useless trivia to gossip hungry public. Why are they accused of trying to kill Britney? That's a judgement right there.

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posted January 09, 2008 05:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is honestly what i'm tired of.
I have a special place in my heart for Britney. [She's a Sagittarius sun, Libra rising and moon in Aquarius].

I'm tired of people speculating and having their opinions, honestly people, what TMZ says and reports is not true. They are speculators and paparazzi. That's it. How would you like to run your daily errands with a camera in your face reporting that you bought a pregnancy test and cigarettes when you only bought some shampoo?
and HOW the hell do you know that she neglects her kids? Are you her next door neighbor? No one is, even the paparazzi.
Let's see what's on her shoulders...

Fame, a low life attention wh*re ex-husband, not being able to see your kids,growing up a star and having your fallout, a pregnant teenage sister, a mom turning her back on you then on your side again, reports of her being mentally ill, reports of her on drugs, reports of her being the "next Anna Nicole",
fat jokes, a disappointing VMA appearance [that was MTV's fault for canceling the original performance with Cris Angel 3 days before the VMAS] and etc.
And for her partying, maybe she does, thats her business. She doesn't have her kids anymore and maybe drinking is a way that she handles her pain. We don't know this but I am tired of ignorant people's speculations.

My prayers are with Brit and I will always be a fan.


As for Jamie Lynn, **** happens. You can't call a 16 year old a train wreck and a f*ck up just because she is pregnant. Would you still call her that if she aborted her baby or wasn't famous at all?
Think about it.

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Babeefoxx, you said a few things I take issue with.

<quote>HOW the hell do you know that she neglects her kids? Are you her next door neighbor? </quote>

I can tell she neglects her kids by her actions. No self respecting mother goes out every night drinking and partying like she does without neglecting her children. And the fact that her low-life, fame wh+re, ex-husband now has custody proves that.


<quote>And for her partying, maybe she does, thats her business. She doesn't have her kids anymore and maybe drinking is a way that she handles her pain. .</quote>

Not exactly the best way to handle your pain. Maybe she should focus on getting her children back. Oh yeah, she doesn't give a sh+t.

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posted January 10, 2008 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She is a Libra ASC. And i feel so damn bad for her. Sure she let the fame get to her head and hasn't been the classiest of people. But come on people are milking this too much. And its absolutely ridiculous that her kids get completely taken away with no visitation rights...surely there are less competent parents out there still raising their children...and hardly K-Fed is a superior choice

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posted January 10, 2008 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
P.S. Pluto is getting close the the Libra ASC's 4th house

while i feel she did bring much of this on herself and there was a variety of ways she could have handled the situations differently but I will also say the media is taking it too far. I personally and please this is just my option cannot stand the practices of the paparazzi... I find their antics disgusting... So there perhaps other things going on. And her sister's pregnancy surely cannot be easy on her.

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OMG i feel for Britney i think shes very normal and i reckon i would react the same if i went through what she did. When my pluto got close to my IC i developed a mental illness also (panic attacks) and i was crazy for 3 yrs and my shrink was my best friend before returning to normal this year. At the same time it opposed my moon and conjuncted my neptune same as britney. When youve had so many bad things happen one after the other you cant help but be a bit crazy. She has no privacy. Wouldnt you go crazy if you were a mum and they said all over the world tabloids pics of you saying your a **** mum and people were making out the worst in you rather than feel sympathy?

Her mum seems like a ***** and she was with a loser who all of a sudden turned into the good guy because he was able to con the media and everyone else that he was this great guy but really he made her this crazy when he cheated on her and ****** her around. That would **** me off and you cant do nothing about it its like everyones against her and its probably making her worse. Shes young and has every right to go out and party and do whatever she wants cause its her life and at the end of the day she pays her own bills and doesnt need to answer to noone. Everyones an individual and she doesnt have to live up to other peoples expectations! Shes human just like us but her private world is invaded by the media. All of us hee have experimented with drugs so no point being a hypocrite either if she wants she can hang out with strippers and whats it to anyone who she fu**s and sleeps with? Worry about your own life and stop bitching about others. I hope she gets better after her pluto transit..

SHe has no family support and doesnt even have a decent friend. How can you criticise someone in that position? Thats like punching someone whos already on the ground..

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posted January 10, 2008 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't experimented with drugs.

speak for yourself.

At 12 years old,my mother told me that I never knew my father because he had a drug problem, and he even had a history of selling drugs.

I swore an oath never to use drugs,and I have kept that oath.

I don't even smoke,drink either. alcoholism runs strong in my mother's family. My alcoholic maternal grandfather committed suicide,and so that factored in me stay away from alcohol since January 1999.
My girlfriend is the same way,and that's type of woman that I should be with. She's even very introverted,homebody type and not into partying, and that's how I am.

My t-square of Moon in Pisces square the opposition of Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius and retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th is a bigtime indicator of the strong need to stay clear away from alcohol and drugs.


honestly,I think anybody with a strong Neptune influence should stay away from drugs and alcohol. That's just my opinion though.


"Shes young and has every right to go out and party and do whatever she wants cause its her life and at the end of the day she pays her own bills and doesnt need to answer to noone. Everyones an individual and she doesnt have to live up to other peoples expectations!"

She's the mother of 2 children. They should come first before even herself. Having a child is a major responsibility,and therefore she should act responsibly. She has to be a great role model for her children or else her children will end up being dysfunctional like her. Now that she has a mother, she should care about her children instead of going out and partying. Because of her children,she can't just do whatever she wants. She has to do what is in the best interest of her children, and that is to be clean,sober,responsible,mature,and be able take care of herself and her children.

Britney is about as normal as President Bush is honest.

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posted January 10, 2008 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For vicious and malicious comments on TMZ check out what gets said about Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes. Even the baby gets a piece of the spite.

Being the 'net you get an opportunity to run into people you would avoid in your normal existence. Spleen-venting, sh1t-stirring, idiocy and sheer nastiness abound.

It makes Paris Hilton cry. It makes Katie Holmes cry. But only one of them goes around flashing her snatch at the cameras. You really can make things worse for yourself with your personal conduct.


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posted January 10, 2008 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For vicious and malicious comments on TMZ check out what gets said about Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes. Even the baby gets a piece of the spite.

Being the 'net you get an opportunity to run into people you would avoid in your normal existence. Spleen-venting, sh1t-stirring, idiocy and sheer nastiness abound.

It makes Paris Hilton cry. It makes Katie Holmes cry. But only one of them goes around flashing her snatch at the cameras. You really can make things worse for yourself with your personal conduct.

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I don't think I was judgmental at all! I simply stated that she's made several choices in her life that have gotten her where she is....and she continues to make them! At worst, I assumed that she was either suffering from mental illness OR, that she was going through a prolongued nervous breakdown.

Heck, I didn't even mention her alleged drug use/dependency and alcohol abuse.

So, nobody is trying to kill Britney...she's doing a damn good job of doing it herself! Does she need guidance? Yes. Does she need rehab again? Probably. But as the old adage goes - the first step is admitting you have a problem and that goes for EVERYONE, including a multi-millionaire celebrity.

And as for calling both girls a trainwreck? Yes, I would say the same if neither were in the spotlight. I work with teenagers all day long, there is NO shortage of information about birth control, safe sex or condoms...little sister made a CHOICE!

Worse yet? Mommy Spears has made a choice to give up on one daughter (well, Britney IS an adult so that may be unfair,) and let the other fall by the wayside!


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posted January 10, 2008 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This Thread has turned out to be nuts..Ppl have their opinons and thoughts and ppl are allowed to do so, especially on this public forum. Thats why its a public forum. If you have sympathy for Britney and her issues fine and for the ppl here that don't thats fine as well we are discussing and interacting on how we feel about the overall situation. And for the ppl that are getting all upset and acting like its personal towards them get over it if it bothers you ppl that things are being discussed go on another thread. Better yet start a lets praise Britney thread. We all have freedom of speech...

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posted January 10, 2008 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

This thread must have been started during an Eris aspect or an aspect to the Eris Nodes. heh
controversial,stirring up stuff

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Are They Trying to Kill Britney?

I wish someone would. (I don't mean that).


The only person killing her is herself. She needs to retire from the show-bizz world she can no longer handle and turn bhuddist. She's got enough money wouldn't you say. Now she needs inner peace.
Just shows all the money in the world cannot hide a white-trash soul.
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This thread was originated during

Mars in Gemini oppose Pluto in Sagittarius


It makes sense that there would be a lot of conflict and difference in opinions,views on this thread.

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posted January 10, 2008 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

EDIT: have changed this guesstimate chart on advice, it's still a guesstimate

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posted January 10, 2008 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

You did the chart based on the time of the Linda Goodman forum and the place of the orignator of the thread.


The timezones of Linda Goodman forum and the timezones of Texas,the place of the originaor of the thread is 1 hour difference.

Texas has CST time zone
Linda Goodman forum has EST time zone

It would seem that 8:30 pm in Texas would the time of the thread or you can use 9:30 PM and the place that Linda Goodman forum originated.


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posted January 10, 2008 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Retrograde Mars in Gemini in 11th oppose Pluto in Sagittarius in 5th with 49 minutes of arc
seems to indicate the conflict in communications and differences of opinion,views which is involving children. It can also fit with mania that could affect children.

Neptune in Aquarius in 6th oppose Leo Ascendant with 1'25 orb and contraparallel Ascendant with 44 minutes of arc(Neptune-Ascendant occultation) square Midheaven in Taurus with 3'08 indicates confusions,misunderstandings as well as issues about drugs,mental illness,as well as also compassion,empathy which could be for Britney and/or her children.
Neptune oppose/contraparallel Leo Ascendant would also fit with the idealizing celebrities,but it also can misunderstanding them or being confused by them. It's a real glamor aspect.

Moon conjunct Venus in Sagittarius in 4th with 22 minutes of arc indicate emphasis on feelings,values in the area of domestic environment, and retrograde Saturn in Virgo in 1st squares Venus with 1'49 orb and Moon with 2'11 orb indicate that there can be stern criticism that conflict with people that feel affection for Britney. It can also indicate criticism of views,opinions. It can also indicate a the emphasis on depression too. The configurate could fit with the Manic-Depression(Bipolar) that people have discussed about Britney.

Uranus in Pisces in 7th/8th sextile Midheaven in Taurus with 1'44 orb and sextile Sun in Capricorn in 5th with 1'23 orb fits with the Astrological thread as well as unconventional,independence in relationships/sex as well as self expression,fun,entertainment,children.

Moon contraparallel Mars with 44 minutes of arc indicate emotionally charged,feelings of anger,aggressive feelings

Sun parallel Mercury with 33 minutes of arc is very communicative, and Jupiter parallel Mercury with 1 minute of arc and Sun with 31 minutes of arc is expansive communications.

Pluto contraparallel Midheaven with 10 minutes of arc can indicate the intensity of this thread as well as the focus on psychological issues that Britney has

Eris in Aries retrograde in 9th trine Ascendant with 1'21 orb can indicate that this thread has controversial views that stir things up. Eris sextiles Neptune in 6th with 4 minutes of arc could fit in with controversy about drugs,alcohol,mental illness. Both aspects could be about standing up for self/others,diversity.

Sun in Capricorn squares the Eris Apogee in Aries with 7 minutes of arc,and that indicates the strong emphasis on controversy,stirring things up,standing up for self/others as well as diversity


Apogee is the point of a body's orbit that is farthest from the Earth.

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