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Missy613
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posted January 27, 2008 04:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My first true love and I recently reconnected but I have a hard time understanding him. He gets moody and then stops calling me (long distance relationship). Please advise what is up with the Cancer male.

Me: 6/13/69 at 6:16 am
Him: 7/22/68 unknown time

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blue moon
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posted January 27, 2008 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First off I thought the strongest possiblities here are that either he doesn't want to talk to you because he doesn't feel like it, or that he doesn't want to talk to you because you have offended him.

After having a quick flick through the ephemeris I've noticed he has Mercury and Mars in Cancer as well as the Sun. That is a lot of sensitive, easily offended man.

We don't have a time of birth but the Moon's noon position is at the end of Gemini, Square Uranus. If he's not too far from noon we could have a little capriciousness in the character. But we don't know, well, I don't, maybe you have picked up on something like this?

Meanwhile you have Mercury Square Mars with an orb of 2*. Mercury is in fast-talking Gemini, Mars is in Sagittarius, a sign not best noted for its tact. It says what it thinks, straight as an arrow. Some people really like that, others find it a little harder to handle.

Just a couple of ideas there, the real way of finding out what is up is asking him.

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted January 27, 2008 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im surprised hes not a 0 degree Leo. Interesting.


yea perhaps your too fickle for him or something.. you have to talk to him and get to understand him.. read on about Cancer men. . your not the first gemini girl to be stumped by a cancer guy on this forum. This forum has practically become a sanctuary for all confused women looking for answers about the cancer male.. but it is really simple.. look within. In the smallest ways we are not much different from you women. except we still have male behavior which is where it gets confusing..

funny. I know a gemini girl who has been crazy about me for years.. and I dont even know her that well. lol I can remember her calling me while I was in highschool and I just felt awkward talking to her.. She always tries to act sexy and sophisticated when she is around me .. like acting fly or something lol and being flirty. I bumped into her at the gym a couple of weeks ago because her class was in there for phys ed. before heading back into the school she had to run up at the front desk to grab a pen and paper to write down her number and give it to me for the idk how manyith time.. lol. but she is just a little to much for me.. I think she needs to learn alot.. and her sexual nature is a bit promiscuous and she's a year or two younger then me.. and Im usually partial to girls a bit older then me. which by the way. there was a question about males and dating older women on the forum a while ago and I said I would find the placement that fits.. and I was right all along but I just couldnt find the evidence.. but it is Venus-Saturn contacts.. for me its an opposition and my venus in the tenth house of saturn and cap.

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posted January 27, 2008 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
make that two gemini girls.. I have discovered a second that I work with who occasionally flirts.. but again to young.

I wonder if My venus conjuncting their suns has anything to do with it.

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posted January 28, 2008 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Im usually partial to girls a bit older then me. which by the way. there was a question about males and dating older women on the forum a while ago and I said I would find the placement that fits.. and I was right all along but I just couldnt find the evidence.. but it is Venus-Saturn contacts.. for me its an opposition and my venus in the tenth house of saturn and cap.

That's true. Venus-Saturn contacts do indicate an attraction to people who are older (or at least more mature). It's more socially acceptable for women. I never thought about what it would do in a man's chart though. Makes sense.

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Sarai
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posted January 28, 2008 12:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This isn't really an astrology issue. Guys can be aloof like this for no apparent reason. I've actually never dated a fellow Cancer (being one myself) so I can't really give much insight, except to say that I get extremely withdrawn and moody when I feel insecure.

Maybe just call him?

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posted January 28, 2008 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sarai.

thats good. lol. dont ever! date a cancerian that is. trust me

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posted January 28, 2008 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I don't know that this isn't really an astrology issue, it's a communication and human interaction issue. To me that says -> Mercury!

So I took another look, on his chart Mercury is Conjunct Mars. It's at 7 degrees orb, but that's enough to be felt. This is a mind working on over-drive but not with using the principles of logic, more intuition. Astrology Weekly suggests quick to take offence before getting all the facts:
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrological-aspects/mercury-conjunct-mars.php
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/mercury-in-cancer.php

60% of communication is non-verbal (so scientists say!) so you are missing out on a lot of signals if you are communicationg by web/phone/text in a long-distance relationship. Maybe he finds this frustrating - he is missing out on body language, etc.

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posted January 28, 2008 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isolaede     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Missy:

I'd say you probably quite unintentionally trod on his sensitive feelings. Or perhaps you gave him cause to worry. Perhaps you rejected him without meaning to (like saying you couldn't hang out one night when he asked you to), or teased him to roughly, or casually mentioned another man. There's a myriad of potential things you could do to hurt the tender heart of a Cancer man. Cancer's retreat into their shells when stung or afraid just like real crabs. Personally, I think it's bad to let Cancer's retreat. I know as a female crab, the longer I'm in my shell the more my worries grow. Males may be different.

But my general advice is for you to gently tell your man you've noticed he seems a bit distant. Reassure him of how important he is to you and ask if there's anything you did to make him sad or worried. If he chooses to respond, really listen to what he tells you - it will let him know you care.

I always feel that total honesty is best (could be my Sag ascendant). Don’t leave any room for doubts or guessing games. I think Cancer’s prefer to total disclosure to mystery - it leaves less room for our insecurities to grow.

Best of luck to you dear lady!

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Missy613
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posted January 28, 2008 01:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I truly appreciate all of the insight and feedback on my situation. I have just recently spoken to him and finally had the opportunity to ask him about the distance lately and his response is that he gets that way sometimes. Which totally gets to me because with a long distance relationship, the only form of communication is via phone or letters. He doesn't have a computer so we can't email, send pictures, video, etc. It's funny because I have to replay all of our conversations to reveal more than what I get out of the initial conversation. He has asked me to marry him and I said yes but I am terribly afraid that he will run out on me when times get rough or a confrontation arises. My love is unconditional and I am trying to understand my man (which is terribly important to him) but I need a way to break him out of his shell or an instruction manual to figure him out. He always tells me that I am the one person whom he trusts the most and I want to be able to understand him so that I can avoid hurting his feelings.

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Sarai
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posted January 28, 2008 01:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If this guy's asking you to marry him his feeling run deep for you.

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posted January 28, 2008 01:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SeeingStars,

Do you mean as a Cancerian myself, I shouldn't date fellow Cancerians?

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posted January 28, 2008 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That pretty much explains it. Letters take time and effort to write. It can be hard to avoid silent moments if you are on the 'phone a lot.

And let's face it, most people have moments they don't feel like talking. It doesn't matter so much if you are both sat in the same room, if you're not saying anything you're both still there.

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posted January 28, 2008 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sarai,

yes as in you shouldnt date another cancer. sry. its my advice


the Gemini Girl,(sry i cant remeber your sn)

ok so heres what you need to do.. you go surprise him at his house. you tell him everything that is on your mind and you tell him how much you love him and just preach that for a while. and then you f*ck him until his little pincers cant hold onto you no more and then you rest and in that time his pincers will heal and become stronger and then you will have the cancer guy latched onto you for good .. everyones happy, problems solved. and no matter what he says or does hes going to be attached to you strongly and love you even if it seems like he isnt.. if you want to go further then do something sweet and thoughtful for him .. maybe like have that same day flowers getting delivered to him and you can follow the delivery and when the flowers arive you can be right there and he takes them from the guy and he reads the little note on the flowers and it says something sweet and lastly it sais "turn around" and boom there you are to surprise him and then the talking and such I wonder where I get these Ideas..


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I don't want to be a product of my environment. I want my environment to be a product, of me.

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Cancer Sun
Moon Libra
Ascendant Virgo

Jeuh boi! :D

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posted January 29, 2008 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There you go, Missy, an insight into what the Cancerian male wants. Not necessarily the same as your guy, but it might help shine a light.

What do you want? I hope that doesn't get missed in the proceedings.

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Missy613
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posted January 29, 2008 05:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the assistance everyone. All of the advice is really paying off. I have been in contact with him and he really seems to be opening up about everything to me now. And I have been able to share my feelings about being shut out.

How do I figure out our charts with our birthdates?

Mine: 6/13/69 at 6:16am
His: 7/22/68 between 9-10am

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posted January 29, 2008 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DainBramaged     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Missy613
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posted February 02, 2008 06:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks DainBramaged for the report! I can't wait to read it all and take it in.

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posted February 02, 2008 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These relationships never work. No matter how well all other planets are structured. Remember our Sun sign is 50% of who and what we are and what we do.

Gemini being Cancer's 12th house - this is the worst relationship in which Cancer man will suffer deeply.

Enjoy your Gemini adventure while you can. You will not get hurt.

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posted February 03, 2008 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DainBramaged     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 03, 2008 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DainBramaged     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 03, 2008 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am already seeing a Cancer man's deep insecurities here. Future will tell us what happens. All of superficial nice things are great to know. But that 'DEPTH OF LOVE' is more important than anything else for any Cancer man or woman for a relationship to work for a long happy duration (ideally a marriage). Otherwise, it's a welcome Martyr dom and frequent visits to Therapists or Mom's place begin.

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posted February 03, 2008 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DainBramaged     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Depth of love is required for any relationship to work.......Or rather, work OUT

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Missy613
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posted February 04, 2008 10:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would like to say to mblover that you are extremely negative. As a Cancer man and obviously in your experience this combination has not worked. I do respect your opinion but you are implying that relationships are not hard work. I have been involved with this amazing man for over 25 years and have always had his heart. I would be devasted if I lost him and never got the chance to be his wife. I treasure and value his heart and unconditionally love him.

I have been enjoying this 25 year adventure and plan to for the rest of my life! I would ask that you not catergorize everyone to your experience but weigh out each situation on a case by case basis. We Gemini's are not all alike.

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These relationships never work. No matter how well all other planets are structured. Remember our Sun sign is 50% of who and what we are and what we do.
Gemini being Cancer's 12th house - this is the worst relationship in which Cancer man will suffer deeply.

Enjoy your Gemini adventure while you can. You will not get hurt.

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posted February 04, 2008 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DainBramaged     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, Missy,

You're with a Cancer, and you're a GEMINI!! ????? I think I might just throw a party for having just seen that fact. Ah, I'm a cancer, and happen to love gems, but get somewhat discouraged by all the negative stuff out there about a cancer and gem match (or even friendship, i guess!). Yay! I'm really happy to hear this, ok (you have no idea lol).

Take care and wow 25 years! That's not far from amazing! Is there anything you would like to share about how the typical stereotype for cancer and/or gemini fits for either of you or your relationship? I was sort of wondering about that.

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