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posted February 02, 2008 06:29 PM            

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I appreciate everybody's kind responses and understanding. Very cool people we have here.
I hope that you're having a great weekend.

Peace

Raymond

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posted February 07, 2008 01:25 PM            

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Very interesting thread. Most folks do not understand the variables of sexuality and orientation. It gets even more confusing when only the physical is taken into account and or orientation. Added to that the stereotyping, sadly even by the gay/lesbian community, of what is a man or woman, what is straight, gay or bi. Then throw in psychological gender identity and it becomes even more complex. One thing I noticed spoken of here but not actually stated as such, is the issue of actual physical Intersexuality and psychological gender identity and orientation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex
http://www.isna.org/
What may appear as male may actually be female, or a blend...or what appears as female may actually be male, or a blend...and so the orientation becomes even more confusing. What about folks who are a balanced physical blend of both? How does one apply labels of gay or straight on any of the above such individuals? Anyhow, stereotyping is an issue too common with both hetero and non hetero people. I also do not see how ones chart can determine gender and or gender identity, orientation, etcetera. I know gay men from queens to ultra macho,(physically and or psychologically) and hetero men who are delicate and fem, to super macho too, (physically and or psychologically). Pink for girls and lace? Blue for boys and leather? Alot is parents' faults for teaching their children stereotypes from day one. Geez! How can a color or fabric be gender specific? Or an emotion? As for signs, they are from all the astrological signs from what I have seen.
Just some more food for thought to this interesting thread.

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