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blue moon
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posted February 01, 2008 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He named his publishing house after his birthday, but I doubt he is into Astrology, but who knows?

I'm not going to pick a fight with him over it.

Any ideas?


Maybe Leo? He has a dramatic appearance. He likes to roar.



But he does that to vent his feelings. He's said so in interviews. But I'm not thinking watery. That is covered by Cancer Mars.



Here's the man in action. I like this one a lot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxrd_jZJxkg

Have a good weekend, everybody.

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posted February 01, 2008 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His looks remind me a little bit of a Taurus I once worked with, whose looks in turn reminded me of Fred Flintstone.

So I'll say a late Taurus Asc. That would give him a first house Mars, a 6th house Neptune (daily work involves the arts), and Sun on the MC. Maybe the cusps would even allow his Moon to squeeze into the 8th house. His chart ruler Venus would be making a quincunx with Neptune (its only major aspect), reinforcing the artistic pursuits.

With that said, I'm almost always wrong at these guessing games. So, in a way, my guessing Taurus could mean that he definitely doesn't have a Taurus Asc, so you can take that one out of consideration when guessing.

Also, most Tauruses I know don't look like him. They tend to have more of a graceful, swimmer's build. If only I knew that first Taurus guy's Asc.

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posted February 01, 2008 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I'm no good at this either.

Maybe I am being too obvious thinking Uranus on the ascendant. But I used to date a guy who had that placement. O.K so he was a double Libra but he was stocky, muscle-packed and covered in tatts.

At the time I was quite young, and I thought it would be amusing to take him home to meet my folks (given that he had his name tattooed on his knuckles). They said they really liked him because he was so polite and well-mannered. My Ma said he was too good for me.

So that put me in my place. Just like him! Of course that's why I liked him. Also, he was a real gentleman, beautiful manners. Bet Henry would be like that too *sigh*. I think he seems really respectful towards women.

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posted February 01, 2008 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm actually good at guessing signs in person. I guess it's the Neptunian part of me that needs to feel the other person's "energy" (or, in this case, biceps). So if you could somehow get me in a room w/ Henry, I think I could find out his Asc.

Your folks sound like good people, but lol @ what your mom said.

I can see the Leo Asc too. And Pluto in his 1st house would fit. I know very little about him, but from what I've seen of him, he has a commanding presence and seems like an intense, thoughtful, good guy. Do you know anything about him biographically? Maybe his childhood would help you figure out his IC.
Edit - Leo Asc would work, since he'd have a Taurus MC and that would fit for a musician.

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posted February 01, 2008 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I only know what he chooses to share through his art, but clearly, it wasn't a picnic in the sun:

http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Henry-Rollins-Biography/A596F35625B6D0B8 482568A8001CFD16


The End Of Silence was a deserved success, and contained some of Rollins' most strikingly introspective lyrics. "Just Like You" narrated his difficulty in dealing with his similarities to an abusive father: "You should see the pain I go through, When I see myself I see you'.

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p.s My Ma doesn't take any sh!t!

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posted February 01, 2008 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, a Taurus AC could put Pluto in his 4th, but a Leo AC could put Scorpio on his IC, so it's a toss-up.

Maybe Leo's better, since it would put the ruler of his IC, Pluto, in his first, which fits what he said about seeing his abusive parent in himself.

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posted February 01, 2008 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hat's off, Jane.

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posted February 01, 2008 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my moments. The whole broken clock thing.

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posted February 01, 2008 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DainBramaged     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, does he have at least some water in his chart? If he doesn't have ANY water.. I even see scorpio in him, definitely. He DEFINITELY has water, i can 100% assure you of that. He probably has a fire moon, too. I think he might be a combination of lots of water and lots of fire. Aries are not passive aggressive like he seems to be. Aries don't need to do anything to "let their emotions out" they do that everyday..lol. "Letting your emotions out" and being so willing to do so..screams water to me. It's totally a water thing. You can tell just by the way he acts int he video too that he has a lot of water influence. He is passionate, and deep, intense...but still pretty soft..and not like a non-feminine sign which would not seem so delicate when they express their temper/intense emotions.

See?

Definite water...

He seems extremely emotional/sensitive

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posted February 01, 2008 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He has Mars in Cancer at 0*.

He also has Mercury in Pisces, conjunct the South Node by 3*, Trine Neptune in Scorpio with 2* orb. Plenty of water influence

Also Mercury is opposite Pluto. Pluto is conjunct the North Node.

Moon in Aquarius, if the birth was pm (Noon chart included above).


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posted February 01, 2008 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DainBramaged     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know, this might sound crazy, but I think he might have a libra asendant.


http://librarising.com/astrology/risingsigns/librarising2.html

I don't know it is definitely an emotional ascendant, though, i think. Probably not aries.


I think he might have the same asc as Colin Farrell. Only because he reminds me of the way colin farrell comes off, too.

Colin Farrell has a virgo rising, so he probably very likely has one too. It's just my opinion though.

I really don't think his ascendant is in leo. No way, look at this



And from his video, either, I think leo rising have a MUCH more self-assured manner of acting with the world.

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posted February 01, 2008 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DainBramaged     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really think now he has a virgo rising..

look at colin with his

Do you see similar features in the epxression, cuz i do!



http://librarising.com/astrology/risingsigns/virgorising2.html


Colin has a gemini sun, so that might make him come off a little MORE "I know what you're thinking" ..oorr.. "I got dis" than another sun sign might.

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posted February 01, 2008 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DainBramaged     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look at Hugh Hefner with his Virgo ascendant...


It seems somewhat intense, but emotional/insecure at the same time, no? (I am talking about virgo rising in general...)

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posted February 01, 2008 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DainBramaged     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here are the leo risings. They seem much more confident/sunnier in general. They definitely smile more.

I don't think he has a leo ascendant.

I don't think it's taurus either...Taurus looks too earthy/serious for him (not emotional/insecure enough)
Check out the taurus risings here http://librarising.com/astrology/risingsigns/taurusrising2.html

Scorpio rising seems to look a lot like taurus but much more readily emotional/intense. But, surprisingly, with a less serious, more sunnier look. (I know! this IS scorpio we're talking about here!! heehee)

I think aires rising appears "emotional" too..or at least, what I mean is OPEN to emotions (not stoic like the taurus rising for example..) but I have seen most of the people on the aries rising page right here http://librarising.com/astrology/risingsigns/ariesrising2.html
in action, and they seem much more self-assured than Rollins, does, so that makes me seriously doubt he would have an aries ascendant.

I was also thinking Sagittarius asc because a lot of them here http://librarising.com/astrology/risingsigns/sagittariusrising2.html
look pretty emotional, but they act MUCH more sunnier and slightly more self-assured than Rollins, so I'm gonna go with a no for sag rising.


I don't know, tell me what you think? [and show pics/evidence pretty please^^]

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posted February 01, 2008 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That last picture reminds me very much of Rupert Everett.

I'm not long after reading his book, "Red Carpets and Banana Skins". It was a good read, he is honest about his human failings.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000391/

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posted February 01, 2008 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DainBramaged     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes..it does look a lot like him
...but rupert's mannerisms are totally different. He looks like he has a fire or air ascendant. I actually think it might be sag, noo nevermind, it's gotta be libra because sag http://librarising.com/astrology/risingsigns/librarising2.html has a more brusque appearance. Even a rounder/chubbier/less refined face, too.

Look at his picture


He seems to fit in perfectly with the rest of the libra risings.. http://librarising.com/astrology/risingsigns/librarising2.html
Yep, definitely Libra.

This other guy, Rollins, however, doesn't fit in so well (with the libras) (neither does hugh hefner..at all) There is just a pleasantness of expression/manner..which is lacking.

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posted February 01, 2008 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yea the first thing I thought was a Virgo Ascendant..

and this is coming from a Virgo ascendant.

you can especially see it in the long straight eyebrows.

btw Colin Farrel has a virgo asc?

I didnt know.

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If not with virgo rising, I would go with Cancer rising because if you see here http://librarising.com/astrology/risingsigns/cancerrising2.html
a lot of them have a terrified look in their eyes like he does.

The virgo rising has the terrified look too, a lot, but I think that he seems to lack some of the humbleness/humility/demure meekness of the virgo rising. He seems to come off as just plain emotional..straight off, not really soft and meek/humble like the quiet demure shyness of a virgo rising. If you notice colin has that demure shyness/humility about him. I don't think rollins does.

I think our best bet is cancer rising, then! http://librarising.com/astrology/risingsigns/cancerrising2.html

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He sort of looks like him. Just a little, right? A LITTLE, though, lol.


His name is Lorenzo Lamas and he has sun and moon in aqua like him, and a cancer rising.
http://librarising.com/astrology/celebs/lorenzolamas.html


I still am not convinced, though. I think the other "Cancer rising" look much more comfortable with their feelings. He seems terrified of them Much like the virgo rising is..you can see it in the eyes, that he's terrified of him feelings. A lot of the virgo risings look like they are terrified of their feelings...they look like they want to get rid of them and are a total discomfort to them. Ahhh, I'm still going with virgo rising. =)

Ohmygosh, seeing stars, you're right about the eyebrows thing. And that's pretty cool that it's coming from a virgo rising himself, because it makes me believe that's what he has a lot more strongly.

you're right, I totally see the eyebrows thing. Look, here, ALL of them have the eybrows thing LOL! http://librarising.com/astrology/risingsigns/virgorising2.html

ohmygosh...

lol
that's great!

I think we found his ascendant, then =)

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posted February 01, 2008 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DainBramaged     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, nevermind, I see the humility/modesty/shyness Now...

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posted February 01, 2008 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DainBramaged     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Do you see it? I see it..

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posted February 01, 2008 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DainBramaged     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://librarising.com/astrology/celebs/robertdeniro.html

Rober DeNiro seems to have the eyebrows thing too, somewhat (quite a bit, though), but I'm guessting this is because has mercury and venus in virgo. He has a cancer ascendant, and I can definitely see the "comfort with own feelings" thing in him, just like the other cancer ascendants. They don't look terrified (actually). They might look cute...and accomodating/compromising in a nurturing way..but no, they don't look terrified. (like Some of the virgo risings do and Can look)

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posted February 01, 2008 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DainBramaged     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Plus, look at this guy, he has Sun in aqua (moon in scorpio) and plenty of water, and asc in cancer like DeNiro and he looks so very comfortable with his own feelings....


http://librarising.com/astrology/celebs/nathanlane.html

Ok, I'm done here. I say he has a Virgo Rising. =). Bye bye everyone. lol.

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posted February 01, 2008 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His shoes ARE impeccably shiny - on nearly every photo. I bet he doesn't pick the cheap ones either.

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posted February 01, 2008 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Darn! I wish I was here earlier as I thought I'd be the one to bring Virgo to the table for ol' Hank.

Virgo was my first instinct on this, and the reason is two-fold. First, he's very blunt in a Virgoan sort of way. It is hyper critical. Second, he's fit and it's clear he cares about his body.

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