posted February 12, 2008 12:56 PM            

Do you still feel like sending that email to me? Or posting if any of what I said checks out? Even if you can just say that the subject is too sensitive or too close to home, that would be fine. Or it could be all wrong for all I know, there's no way to know without some type of confirmation. Just trying to learn and keep on my toes.

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posted February 13, 2008 06:45 AM              

I think it depends on the gem on how much intensity they can take, I'm a gem sun with an aries moon so It rally has an affect on me.

Sometimes I like the intensty, sometimes I just hate it.

hmm..If you guys have been together for a vary long time, I don't see why he whould just disappear now.

I wonder is he open with his emotions and does he express them openly???? Maybe if you can get him to tell you how he really feels it might be the real reason why he avoids you.

posted February 13, 2008 06:22 PM              

I'm surprised he's lasted so long without talking to me though.. (he really valued our friendship), it's been almsot 3 weeks after he set the day for our date....

posted February 13, 2008 11:46 PM              

His saturn (Scorpio 2H)
conjunct my sun (1)
sextile my moon (2)
sextile my neptune (2)
conjunct my pluto (2)
trine NN (2)
trine Chiron (3)
...and there are many others

My saturn (Sag 6H)
opposite his sun (5)
conjunct his moon (7)
opposite his venus (5)
semi-square his mars (2)
conjunct neptune (1)
sextile pluto (0)
sextile vertex (1)

and thanks for the insight into your relationship, it gave me some hope

posted February 15, 2008 02:46 AM            

Here is what i get from Linda's book relationship signs, i picked some quotes I thought would help.

Sun conj Saturn:

"This could be helpful or unfortunate, depending on whether the majority of other aspects in your inter charts are stressful or harmonious. One thing you can count on: whatever your individual behavior patterns may be separately, when your efforts are combined and u operate as a team, you're both so consumed by duty and responsibility you may need to join Workaholics Anonymous. This is positive. One frictional facet of this aspect could be that Saturn may try to "sit on" or hold down the Sun's enthusiastic desire to move forward and the Sun won't appreciate being held down even when told to slow down because its "good for you" On the plus side the Sun will encourage Saturn's ambitions, which will help alleviate Saturn's fears, worries and pessimistic negativity.
...There will be a great deal of loyalty between you, a sort of two-against-the-world link. There usually will be a difference in chronological age between you or it may be only that Saturn's attitudes and behavior from time to time make it seem that one of you is older or more mature. The Sun is more tolerant and forgiving than Saturn, which is fortunate since in your relationship the Sun will have to ensure harmony by making most of the concessions and doing most of the compromising. The sun conj Saturn means that there are karmic lessons to be taught and the teachers, the one in charge of the wisdom to be exchanged is always the one whose Saturn aspects the other's sun".

Sun opposed Saturn (my bf and I also have it. his Saturn my sun)

There is a strong tug of almost automatic resistance between you. Undoubtedly, you've felt it frequently. Saturn's limiting, cautious and conservative attitudes in various areas of your relationship will be intensely and keenly felt by the Sun, making it appear that Saturn is being unnecessarily demanding, stubbornly uncompromising and needlessly taking an opposite stance to whatever the Sun desires or suggest. Not always, but on rare occasions, Saturn can behave in a suspicious and exacting manner, which humiliates and hurts the Sun's pride and self-confidence and causes and explosive response born of resentment long held within. Of course the friction isn;t one sided. Saturn may complain that the Sun is overbearing and uncooperative, refusing to be instructed. But your problems could be overcome by the Law of Polarity. When two people posses opposite view points and temperaments, there can still be congenial vibrations between them.Therefore if you make an effort your differences can blend in harmoniously because each can supply what the other lacks."

Moon sextile Saturn
"Your emotional harmony is pronounced and stable most of the time. the moon sees Saturn as more wise, kindly, and protective than stern and demanding. Saturn recognizes that the Moon has the rare ability to smooth over pai and depression, providing the kind of gentle affection and optimism Saturn needs - and appreciates. The romance between you will not slowly fade away after marriage, but has a very good chance of lasting, of surviving daily annoyances of living together. "

Moon conjunct Saturn (also have this with bf)
One might call this somewhat paradoxical as far as breaking up and making up are concerned. As you're probably aware, your relationship is not always a garden path of lilacs and sweet peas. There are a few thorns and pebbles along the way, tripping you up now and then, however strong the bond linking you may be, and this aspect, makes that bond even stronger, although at times it may seem more like double handcuffs than the golden tie that binds"> Remember Saturn is the planet of karma and thus its the person whose Saturn is conjunct the other's moon that is in charge of the lessons learned by both of you. Lighten up! Because of the heavy karma of this aspect, the stress of the learning process is not as painful as the loneliness would be if you parted. "

Venus opposite Saturn
"Saturn has many lessons to teach venus, and venus wont be anxious to learn them. It will occasionally be a struggle, but its your karmic destiny so might as well make the best of it. Venus will endure some unhappy experiences espcially when Saturn blames Venus for problems they encounter together This is unfair. But there is nothing fair about karmic lessons unless you happen to know the primordial cause of them. Saturn may behave in a limiting way towards Venus/ Believe it or not this is the way Saturn demonstrates genuine love-in a sort of parent/child pattern. The plus side is Saturn would probably never leave Venus but will hang around to provide with large measure of stability and emotional security. "

Ill try to type some more up. Usually i don't focus too much on aspects among the outer planets since they move so slowly and usually affect a whole lot of people together. Mostly outer to inner...those get me.

In my relationship we have almost amazing inner planet aspects and almost horrendous outer. I will be kidding myself to say it has been all peaches and cream. In fact quite often it feels like living hell (thats why I joined LL initially) but I honestly have learned so much about myself and others through this relationship that I cannot possibly see any way that I could have. We try to work hard on it and sometimes it works other times it doesn't. Just yesterday we had a fight and i was just reminded as to why. The Sun/Saturn aspect. I was feeling he was killing my enthusiasm to explore with his views. Thats okay. I feel like a lot of things could be worked through. I wish you the best of luck. Don't despair. I will try to come back to the thread soon and hopefully type up some more.

posted February 15, 2008 02:59 AM            

Like his moon right on your DC and your mars in his 7th house. Mars conjunct Part of Fortune.

Your composite chart has a moon Pluto conjunction in Scorpio. Makes me giggle a little cuz I have that natally and you either love it or hate it. My guess is you probably don't hate it cuz you are a scorpio. It is a very intense aspect to have. I had a double whammy Moon/Pluto conjunction with my ex bf (3 year relationship) and with a friend. Basically what that means from my experience is that you are in tune with each other's emotions on an amazingly subconcious level to the point that its almost primal. For example. Moon-Pluto aspect is very intuitive, so i am guessing you guys would be able to read each other's feelings like a book. And they would be intense, feelings.

posted February 17, 2008 05:06 PM              

i read all of the aspects you wrote and they all sound right on the money i hope fate has made some sort of mistake with our 'union', or our birthtimes or SOMETHING because this cannot go on.
....And that stellium in scorpio taht you were referring to; intense doesn't even begin to describe. and i LOVE that in relationships - i couldn't settle for anything less unfortunately he doesn't feel the same but, sigh, what can you do.
..And i have generated the composite chart for our relationship (you're referring to the interactive one?) it's great i really like it as well! and I too wish that there was one for synastry..I've foudn some sites that have good interpretations but i'm looking for a complete one that's free
Actually, last night i was trying to 'cheat' Liz Greene's relationship report following what DrainBramaged had said worked for her, but it didn't work. I'm DYING to see that report, it says that the relationship is painful for him.....
and i wanna see the rest!!
I'm not talking to him or anything, I've started the 'detox' process lol, but i still have to know his behaviour behind all of this. Until then, I'm afraid i will fail miserably at moving on. (if he gets into the army like he wants to i'm sure that would help too lol)