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heart cakes
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posted February 06, 2008 05:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
is it sexy or is it weird or tense or what? it seems like it'd be sexy, but i AM a huge fan of oppositions and also rather dumb.

the orb is exact and mars is conjunct sun.

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posted February 06, 2008 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

if you like it rough, it can be good.

hehehehehe

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posted February 08, 2008 12:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
glaucus!!!! um, no comment.. !

but is that what the sexuality is supposed to be like with this aspect? rough? does that also translate to "passionate"?

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posted February 08, 2008 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah...Venus oppose Mars is a challenging aspect, and it indicates that love,affections can be at odds with action,passions.

Hard Venus-Mars aspects can indicate potential for love n' hate relationships. There can fights between the lovers.

also...Venus oppose Mars can go from sweet,loving,affectionate,considerate to aggressive,impulsive,selfcentered and back, etc. oppositions are like teeter totter aspects.

It can be a sign of passionate lovers....maybe even too passionate

remember that with hard aspects involving Mars,there can be a potential for violence,aggression.

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posted February 08, 2008 05:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm, thanky glaucus.

well it's weird. cuz things are so light and calm and interested-interesting between us, two air signs that we are (aquarius and gemini), BUT we both have mars conjunct sun within close orb and i can sense that there could be a lot of intensity in the.. uh.. bedroom despite the detachedness with which we both operate our lives.. so i can see how this could manifest. i think we have too much respect for one another for it to escalate to violence but i can see the teeter-totter thing happening. we are both majorly independent creatures in our own lives BUT also both rather commitment oriented too. the opposition is in aries and libra, so! that will be an interesting balancing act, if something happens!! in fact, we have several planets in opposition between aries and libra (in our composite). hmm!

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posted February 08, 2008 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

that's good

What's the orb of the aspect...that's a big factor too.

free will is the ultimate factor though.

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posted February 08, 2008 05:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi! i'll put up our composite chart..

what do you think?

my impression is that since the opposition ivolves libra, it might be GOOD in terms of making it a BALANCED aspect rather than a separating? or is that too far reaching? of course, free will is most important as you say, but the general energetic flow is pertinent too, of course..

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posted February 08, 2008 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun-Mars in 12th oppose Venus in 6th can be problematic.....especially when 12th house can be involved with hidden things,secrets,deceptions. Mars in 12th oppose Jupiter-Saturn can seem like a bipolar relationship in a way as in energy,passions fluctuate between limitations,restrictions and expansion,optimism

12th house/6th house is health and service axis. So there could end up being health and service issues in the relationship....especially with the hard aspects like the oppostion. It may not be now...but later on.

I am not sure if the sign,Libra makes any difference. I don't put much emphasis on signs in composites any way.


every composite has its challenges....challenges can make or break a relationship....that depends on the couple and what they choose to do in their relationship. They can choose to fight to stay afloat and swim.... or choose to sink and drown.

Transits to the composite are important too. Comparison from composite to the natal too.

for instance if composite Saturn is conjunct an individual's Venus, the individual might feel that the relationship is very serious and or even restricting. If composite Uranus opposes individual's Sun, the individual might find the relationship unpredictable and even unstable for him/her.


also..with Pluto in 7th conjunct Descendant, it can be an intense,transformational relationship that could even get obsessive.
It can be hard to let go and walk away from the relationship once you're in it.

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posted February 08, 2008 05:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you glacus! wow you are fast. well, we are not sure of his birthtime but it is probably sometime after 10. his mom is an alcoholic though, so who knows.. so it's possible the houses are completely different.

i'm going to think more about what you said and get back to you. thank you!!

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posted February 08, 2008 08:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had the Venus/mars opposition in a composite once, only man I have ever literally wanted to rip the clothes off, it was like magnatism but worse, or better depending on your point of view. It is not an aspect that will ever be pure gentle love, it is very physical.

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posted February 08, 2008 09:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh my! was it mutual??

it's so weird cuz last summer after i'd see him i would get insanely horny for hours afterward and i have never felt like that with anyone else before. yup, i know the feeling!

how long were you together? was there fighting or was it just really good sex?

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posted February 08, 2008 10:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
glaucus,

man i wish i had his exact birthtime! i'm gonna try to find out forsure. but for now we'll just leave it as is.

"Sun-Mars in 12th oppose Venus in 6th can be problematic.....especially when 12th house can be involved with hidden things,secrets,deceptions. Mars in 12th oppose Jupiter-Saturn can seem like a bipolar relationship in a way as in energy,passions fluctuate between limitations,restrictions and expansion,optimism."

do you think sun-mars in the 12th could mean an enthused romp into matters spiritual that fluctuates or alternates with a sober, careful, deliberate optimism (6th, saturn, jupiter)? cuz this DOES sound like the sort of energy that is between us.. he is also VERY spiritual but in a very independent way, like i am, and i always feel this intense undercurrent of understanding between us and i feel like we could get really deep into talking about and discovering stuff.. but also feel like we would be very careful and deliberate mostly.. maybe even saturn would cut off jupiter's flow on occasion and bring us back to reality.. or sometimes annoy us with stifling cautiousness. though i do LOVE saturn and think he is incredibly benevolent, i do see how it could get frustrating. but what i'm getting at, is i wonder if it could lend some groundedness to the spiritual delving that seems to be a likely possibility, and if, thus, this is a good configuration of planets..?

i dunno. do you think it could work out that way? i just can't picture him decieving me, but i guess deception can be unintentional too, or we can deceive ourselves. hmm..


"Transits to the composite are important too. Comparison from composite to the natal too. for instance if composite Saturn is conjunct an individual's Venus, the individual might feel that the relationship is very serious and or even restricting. If composite Uranus opposes individual's Sun, the individual might find the relationship unpredictable and even unstable for him/her. "

the aspects i see at first glance for him are:

composite chiron exactly conjunct his mercury (! is this healing, or painful..??)

composite mercury trine his jupiter and uranus

composite NN trine his jupiter and uranus

we both have sun and mars sextiled to composite sun and mars, since they are trined natally, so that is nice. i don't think i see anything too negative, though our composite moon in pisces is square his jupiter and uranus in sagittarius BUT i've never understood how pisces and sagittarius are squared since they are both so spiritual so i'm choosing to disregard that one. it's widely trine his venus anyway, and sextile his mercury, so i'm hoping that will help.


"also..with Pluto in 7th conjunct Descendant, it can be an intense,transformational relationship that could even get obsessive.
It can be hard to let go and walk away from the relationship once you're in it."

thank you for this insight. i am VERY loyal (preponderance of fixed planets in my chart!) and i remember how obsessed he was with his ex for at least a year after they broke up. he tried so hard to get her back and was SO sweet about it. but i can see how it can be seen as obsessive, and i've recently been obsessive, so i can see how the two of us could get obsessive about keeping together. somehow that is VERY lovely sounding to me though and as long as it's healthy, it sounds good. but the way you put it, it sounds kinda sexual too, which i don't really mind! and to be more serious, i think i would have to be really sure before i let it get too intimate, or something.. hmmm..

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posted February 08, 2008 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

yeah...the 12th house can be spiritual....but also have to keep in mind that when there are hard aspects involving 12th house, the challenging 12th house expressions usually occur. but these are things that can be avoided or if they do occur,they can be dealt with.

the relationship is what you two make it.

free will is the ultimate factor.


Everything that you tell me, I agree. It seems that you have a very good relationship. That's all that matters.


I wish you all the best.

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posted February 08, 2008 11:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks glaucus! well, i'm not really sure, i'm just trying to think it through and was just wondering what all the potentials are for us. interesting what you say about 12th house. i can see that we might bring out hidden aspects of one another that could be difficult. but we are both inordinately strong people who came from similar families and i feel like we could both handle it somehow. but the caution and warnings are helpful too.

i think the weirdness for me is that he almost feels like a brother. so on the one hand it feels SO natural, and on the other it's like, hmm.. i don't want to lose him as a friend, too, if it doesn't work out!

thank you for your insights!! they were very helpful!!


the weird thing is that at first i was only re-entertaining the idea of him to get over this other guy i've been totally infatuated with, but the more i think about him, the more right it feels. but it's interesting cuz this shows how it's so easy to "block" a person out of your heart for whatever reasons your mind makes up, and that is why i'm sort of not sure! cuz i did have these very strong feelings for this other guy, and now i do for him as well and since i'm so monogomous by nature, it is uncomfortable, but i think it's good and healthy for me to experience this openended naturally flowing kind of thing..

and weirdly they both have venus in cancer, sextiling my moon. both a degree off, but each on the other side. just thought that was interesting.

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posted February 11, 2008 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
if you like it rough, it can be good.
hehehehehe

Oh yeah... Lol! Lets just say the intensity of this position is the classic defination of passion! See, the precieved defination of passion these days comes from the ideal outlook of romantic love yet, passion can exist without love. Passion is an entity on its own and can be triggered by anything that you place a focused energy upon; May it love or may it be hate.

Heck hate triggers passion at the same degree as love. You know the saying "revenge is an act of passion?" well... that is why Sadism exists .

Yes, I do have this little aspect in my relationship's synasty but I somehow I also have a Mars sextile Moon there Lol! Oh they both have their ups .

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posted February 11, 2008 12:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dated a guy with a Taurus Mars once, opposing my Venus. The physical aspects of the relationship were OK at first, I was attracted to him but nothing spectacular. Then my interest in being physical with him ceased after about a month and I broke it off. We also had other stressful aspects like Sun sq. Mercury and Venus sq. Venus (which I felt was our BIGGEST problem together..never again!)

However, he is the only guy who made me lightheaded by we kissed..but that did not translate to "feeling good" or "hot" to me for some reason.
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Mercury:: Sagittarius
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posted February 11, 2008 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

so Venus,Venus,Mars t-square?

what were the orbs of those aspects.

T-squares tend to indicate significant problems in relationships.

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posted February 11, 2008 01:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glaucus, are you asking me? If so..Venus sq. Venus orb 1.42, Mars op. Venus orb 1.

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posted February 11, 2008 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Yes......yeah...that's a tight t-square. That definitely would indicate significant problems

even Magi Astrologers say that t-square can generate a strong attraction but it's like being on a roller coaster.

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posted February 11, 2008 03:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Definitely, looking back I am always disgusted that I went out with him. He wasn't "gross", so I don't know why I can't stand the thought of him...I just wasn't feelin it

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posted February 11, 2008 03:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't shave.

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heart cakes
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posted February 11, 2008 08:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
xodian, do you have it in composite or synastry? what is the orb?

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posted February 11, 2008 08:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i just found this at cafeastrology:

When composite Venus is opposition composite Mars:

Your relationship is destined to always be a "hot" one. The sexual fireworks which are generated between the two of you are undeniable. However, certain difficulties will arise from time to time in this arena - among them: differences in how you each express or wish to receive affection, an element of conquest or dominance that evokes competitive feelings in the other person, or possessiveness because one or both of you feel you can't get enough of the other person. It may be hard for both of you to get your sexual-emotional needs met, as one of you is apt to dominate. Imbalances of this sort can create a lot of anger in the neglected, "giving" partner. If, however, you can learn to take turns giving and receiving, and focus on truly joining, the two of you can have a very vibrant, passionate relationship.

Part of the purpose of your relationship is, in fact, to learn to balance your own desires and needs with those of your partner, and to be able to honor both.

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posted February 12, 2008 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heart Cakes:

Not entirely sure. I ran that chart so long ago and now I can't even remember the interpertation site I used for it Lol! (I am really not that good at interperting Synasty charts and aspects... And I completely distrust online site interpertations for the most part.) I am gonna have to run the chart again for both synasty AND composite to find that out for you.

Oh and thanks for that info. Lol! See ppl? Who says challenging aspects are bad? And who says vengeful feelings can't be used for more... "benifitial purposes?"

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posted February 14, 2008 12:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
haha.. isn't that the truth, xodian!

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