posted February 22, 2008 01:47 AM              

>>> capricorn risings frequently have difficult childhoods in which they are expected to be inordinately responsible and act like little adults, etc.

im a cap rising and i had a really wonderful childhood. especially before i hit puberty - just feeling free and elated- those were like my golden years - after that, i put on a lot of responsibility on myself

jane i really like this

>>A little off-topic, but about about the ASC not being them...I don't really go with that view of the ASC. I don't think of the ASC as a mask, but more as a filter. A filter of what we give (how others perceive us), but also what we take in (how we perceive the world).

i like the filter idea- but i also like to see the Asc as some type of "Role" you perform - its the role that you feel you must do, whether due to outside pressures or feeling internally like its the easiest way to go when fitting into society

posted February 22, 2008 02:13 AM            

Your Venus in a universal sign could explain why your priority is creating harmony for the whole, while someone with Venus in a personal sign like Aries takes his Venusian role more...personally. But the first house Venus people I know are like that too, very aware of the emotional needs of the whole group and do their best to make sure everyone is having a good time or at least comfortable.

I forgot to complete my thought in my last post about why I thought the Pisces ASC's were hurt by the need to act. Very kind and first-house-Venus of you not to point that out. Speaking from my personal experience, the Pisces ASC's I know are accepting of all people just as they are. So it's confusing & disheartening to them that others aren't as accepting but instead want them--the Pisces ASC's--to conform to an identity that pleases them.

Skybound -
"What would be the difference if you also have Saturn conjunct Venus in the first house and Pisces rising?"

posted February 22, 2008 05:16 AM              

this is a really interesting take on Pisces in general. as a Virgo sun, i often feel Pisces uneasy around me.. as if they think im going to change them and force them to perfect themselves (Virgo sun in 8th)

i feel like this feeling that Pisces has directly opposes the feeling that Virgo has - Pisces feels like people should accept them for who they are, the sensitive souls inside.

Virgo focuses on the external actions one makes in their life - and points out that all actions have consequences and thus one should be careful about what one is doing - Virgo is always trying to perfect its own character and those of it around it - i think, in opposition to Pisces, Virgo doesnt feel like people should accept Virgo for who it is - rather Virgo wants to become the best that it can be.. for others..

posted February 22, 2008 07:33 PM              

Me and my dad both have Pisces ascendent, we both are escapists, but in very different way though. My father had a very difficult childhood and so did I. But without the help from escaping the real world we both would have sunk neck deep into trouble.

My father who got squarely cheated by his own friends never really had the strength to hate them, he just accepted them as that is what they are and still has the heart to smile at them. Though he stays at a safe distance.

Its the same with me too, i just cannot hate people even if i know they are really bad. I stay away. but if they ask me to help i would still do. May be because of what i went through as a child. To put it simply there have been a lot of days when I would long to have good food. But when i look at it now, it was that period which shaped my entire personality and i am happy with what ever i got.

posted November 16, 2009 01:15 PM            

In my childhood it was like I was dropped off in a family that had absolutly nothing in common with me. All my family members were either cold and clinical or volatile/violent...come to think of it they still are inclined that way. But as I got older I learnt to be strong and realised it was their issues and not mine. I did a lot of soul searching and learnt to love myself..although I am still working on that today!