posted February 23, 2008 09:45 PM            

the first thing that I noticed is

that she has Mars conjunct Eris with 10 minutes of arc! Wow! That can be quite intense,passionate with strong tendencies to violence.....depending on how its used. She can really stir things up and be controversial when it comes to how she acts.

She has Moon conjunct Mars too which can can emotionally passionate...emotions and actions strongly connected....passions can take control over the emotions.....I have Moon conjunct Mars myself,and so I know how that works

She has Mars parallel Pluto - '21 which is intense physical energy...there can be potential for violence with that aspect

She has Venus oppose Pluto,and those aspects are common in people who are in abusive relationships..whether the victim or the perpetrator.....it can indicate an intense love nature. She could be a type that can be jealous. Power,control issues in love/relationships can be a problem for her

Her Pluto Nodes square the Moon which can indicate an intense emotional nature

Her North Mars Node conjuncts Venus with 1'14 orb and oppose Pluto with 51 minutes of arc which can indicate a passionate,aggressive in love/relationships.....this configuration can be love n' hate in love/relationships.

Her South Mars Node conjuncts Neptune with 3 minutes of arc, and that can indicate passions,aggressiveness can be combined with imagination.....it's possible that she can get angry by things that she might imagine.
There is also escapism issues....like can lay blame on others for their violence and pretend to be the victim

BTW.....Many abusers have a history of being abused by themselves....many have had abusive homelives in childhood

this is perfect example of that you can't just focus on sunsigns....you have to take check out everything else too.

posted February 23, 2008 11:15 PM              

today the same person and same situaions that had me raging dont ruffle me AT ALL. it is NOT about the situation, it is about the issues underlying the anger.
anger is a defense for Fear.
Fear is a symptom of Pain.
to understand and treat her anger u have to face the source of the pain.

God Bless

posted February 23, 2008 11:37 PM            

You have Moon square Pluto with 20 minutes of arc which can indicate that you have intense emotional nature and there can be power,control issues with women and can abusive issues with women.

Your wife's Moon forms a t-square with it (her Moon squares your Moon with 1'02 orb which indicates emotional natures in conflict,stress with each other, and her Moon opposes her Pluto with 42 minutes of arc,and that can indicate you can make her emotions feel intense...she might even feel that you can be abusive,controlling), and that can indicate that feelings between each other can be very intense and that there can be power,control issues......there is potential for the relationship to be abusive.

Close t-squares are common in relationships where there are significant problems.....with a t-square involving Pluto, there can be considerable control,power issues as an abusive relationship.

Her Saturn conjuncts your Mercury, and that can indicate serious communications which can involve her being restricting,limiting,and disciplining your communications. The composite Mars is squaring that synastry Mercury-Saturn conjunction,and that can indicate frustration, arguments between the two of you which can lead to violence.

The composite Mars squaring her Saturn with 28 minutes of arc which can indicate that the relationship can make her feel frustrated,angry,and so she can end up being violent.

Composite Mars squaring your Mercury with 1'17 orb,and that can indicate that the relationship can get on your nerves,making you angry,and can lead you to make rash decisions and blunt,harsh in speech.

Another thing too is that the composite Mars is not only squaring your wife's Saturn, but the composite Saturn is opposing your wife's Mars with 2'15 orb. So there is a double whammy hard Mars-Saturn aspect in the composite wit her,and that indicates a high degree of frustration,anger that can lead to violence. The composite Saturn is opposing her Moon-Mars,and so she can feel restricted,limited to the relationship which can frustrate her and make her angry. She could be overwhelmed by responsibilities in the relationship. The composite Mars is opposing her Ascendant with 2'48 orb, and that indicate that the relationship can have a passionate,aggressive affect on her. It can indicate potential violence in the relationship. The composite Mars is squaring her Midheaven with 3'24 adds to the passionate,aggressive effect on her that can include an effect on her career,domestic life.

As for some problematic relationship stuff in your chart:
You do have Moon quincunx Neptune with 1'21 orb which can indicate alcohol can be a problem with women. Neptune rules alcohol,drugs,escapism.

Your Venus square Mars indicates that there can be fights with your partners....this can indicate a passionate love nature.....but it can be an indicator of love n' hate.......it indicates that your anima involves being attracted to passionate,aggressive women.

Your Venus squares Uranus.......it seems like an unpredictable love nature....can indicate that independence can conflict with your affections,love.....there can be forced changes in relationship.....it indicates that your anima involves being attracted to unpredictable,independent women.

There seems to be a significant unpredictable impulsivity in your nature with Mars conjunct Uranus with 16 minutes of arc and Mars parallel Uranus with 16 minutes of arc.

posted February 24, 2008 04:25 AM              

Rather than understanding or trying to mend to her , can you try to mend your ways ?
coming home at 4 in the morning , that too drunk and calling names .
i think thats as bad as being physically abusive .

i am saying this from my own experiences , i just can't stand anyone doing anything behind my back .
the anger that i feel out of frustation (as for practical purposes -the things like backbiting can not be defined as being violent ) makes me violent bcos i can't act as them but i need to let go my anger too , dont i ?
so its a simple way of reciprocation .

i am not proud of all this, even i feel guilty but tell me , what can you do in those situations ?

posted February 24, 2008 07:06 AM              

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do have to admit that each time she got angry it was for a reason, she would wait up for me when I would tell her I would be home soon and I would show up drunk out of my mind at 4 in the morning, I would call her mean names when I was drunk, but not once did I ever physically abuse her.

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bipolun ... hugs.

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finally someone says something sensible:

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Rather than understanding or trying to mend to her , can you try to mend your ways ?
coming home at 4 in the morning , that too drunk and calling names .
i think thats as bad as being physically abusive .

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posted February 25, 2008 07:51 PM              

It was just a sexual thing and very frustrating. You have to reach a deeper understanding or part your ways.

It is just a karmic relationship. An obsession. I speak from experience.

posted February 27, 2008 12:27 AM            

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I would like to see a gf or wife of mine be abusive. the fire wrapped up in that would just turn me on.

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Seeing Stars is that a Cancer thing? My Cancer ex used to find it very attractive when I would get really mad. And I have one heck of a fiery temper when I am angry.

posted February 27, 2008 01:48 AM            

Pretty cool heliocentric astrology insights

posted February 27, 2008 06:01 PM              

Wot a bunch of imbeciles. Getting turned on about someone elses misery ? What is that all about ? Messed up. Getting your kicks and then dont feel bad afterwards ? Not having any empathy whatsoever for someone else? Preying on the vulnerable ? Perhaps not emotionally mature yet. That's being polite.

Jeez. I want to slap these people and kick them in the goolies.

Human compassion ? Wouldnt know the meaning of it. If nothing else they are nothing but under developed individuals. Perhaps their anatomy is built like that. lol

posted February 27, 2008 07:37 PM            

There are few here at LL, to be sure, and I am taking flee...

But will have to read and re-read this this thread in order to comment objectively.

It is not about Pisces or not, it is about abuse and what one is willing to accept.

Having said that, I am one and I have never met one that I really liked, that much...

Terri

posted February 28, 2008 01:00 AM              

oh man ! if thats politeness , what is impoliteness (just joking )

posted February 28, 2008 02:19 PM            

Yes we ARE sweet, giving, healing...but only to a point, and I have experienced THAT point in my mid years....

Imagine...just imagine, for a moment, someone who will give you anything, give you everything...an individual who will sacrifice (martyr) herself for those she thinks she loves...

Then...

The objective individual comes home...(drunk) and the giving, sweet, woman has finally had it...

Dude...we ALL have our limits...

What is yours? Obviously she has stated hers...

I do not support abuse in any fashion, but I am willing enough to look be-yound...

~~just what made this otherwise kind individual...loose it???~~

You ask what would "make" a sweet Pisces gal do this to you???

Question and look beyond...what is it in YOU that has brought out such behavior in HER?

You did not "make" her do anything, merely you spawned something, deep within her that needs to be re-leased....

Your original question...

"what would make a sweet humble Pisces do this to me?"

My answer....

A drunk idiot...

Been there, done that...........

Blessings..