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astroscorp
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posted March 16, 2008 11:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello all!

Sometimes I wonder if my personality is more of a Leo than a Scorpio.. I'm new to all this astrology stuffs so I'm wondering if anyone can shed some light on my natal chart? I'm intrigued that astrology can sorta define a person's personality/ character and I wanna see how close it comes..

In gist..

People find me a very difficult person to handle. I can be overbearing, impulsive, aggressive and overly persistent when I have set my sight on something. And my feelings are ruled by my emotions and I can dwell on something for ages..

My love life sucks basically - my 7 years relationship with a cappy ended a year ago and I've managed to scare away a cancerian girl that I fancy with my intensity/ aggresiveness approach. I find myself immensely attracted to the cancerian girl and I don't usually fall that easily. But it was love at first sight for me. Somehow I could feel a connection with her but sad to say she said that she did not feel any sparks bw us. Does it mean that I am attracted to cancerians? And why is it that I am always attracted to people but people are not attracted to me? Chasing can be so tiring sometimes and its worst if its a one sided attraction.

Anyway I wonder if there's anything I can do about myself really..

Thanks for reading this longish post.


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Azalaksh
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posted March 16, 2008 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
to LL, astroscorp.

It's easy to see why you might "feel" more Leonine than Scorpionic: your Leo Moon is in the 1st house And it conjuncts Mars, the planet of "action." Mars is also dignified (expressed more powerfully) -- in the house it rules.

And yes, there is "something you can do about yourself." Awareness/Acceptance of the issue is the first (and biggest) step. Astrology can help you immeasurably in discovering why you do what you do.....

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I'm thinking things will get much better for you since your Saturn Return last summer. I have Leo rising as you do (thus Aquarius on the Descendant). The Dsc shows what we look for in the Not-Me, what we think we need from partnerships with others. Sometimes the sign ruling the Dsc is at odds with the Sun, Moon or Venus signs. An Aquarius Dsc indicates the desire for a unique and unusual partner, a free spirit, and perhaps the Cappy and Cancer didn't quite fill that bill.....

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astroscorp
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posted March 16, 2008 12:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heya Azalaksh,

Thanks heaps for your insight! Appreciate that!

You were right, I had the worst time of my entire life in 2007 and I am not kidding. Handling the breakup and the demands from the new job. And I think that I had learnt alot from last year and have become a better person. I guess thats where the scorpio transformation comes in and the determination from the Leo rising? I'm sorry if I don't make sense here.. hahaa.. I am a noob when it comes to astrology.

I've also realized that I somehow has the urge to find somebody to love. I know that I cannot hurry such things and I have tried to slow things but yet this urge to find that soulmate is pretty intense. I am not being a desperado here. Is it due to my venus in libra?

Being a scorpio - i have read that we're good at maintaining eye contact with a person. Well for me I cannot hold a stare for too long. I've just met somebody who can hold a stare too and I'm the one who looked away after awhile.. and I wonder if she is a scorpio too.

I seriously hope that 2008 will be a better year for me.

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Azalaksh
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posted March 16, 2008 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus in Libra too, astroScorp
The Urge to Merge will always be there -- whether in the background or foreground depends on transits, progressions, and the way you yourself are handling the energies of Life surrounding you.....

You already know what the right path is

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I know that I cannot hurry such things
Perhaps instead of the *Goal* being Someone To Love, you might revise it to Someone Whose Company I Enjoy and Have Fun With. Love seems to find us when IT'S ready, not when we are
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And I think that I had learnt alot from last year and have become a better person. I guess thats where the scorpio transformation comes in and the determination from the Leo rising? I'm sorry if I don't make sense here.. hahaa.. I am a noob when it comes to astrology.
Thats a very perceptive observation -- sounds like you're past "noob" already, as you make perfect sense

The Stare-Winner sounds like a winner

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astroscorp
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posted March 17, 2008 07:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Perhaps instead of the *Goal* being Someone To Love, you might revise it to Someone Whose Company I Enjoy and Have Fun With. Love seems to find us when IT'S ready, not when we are"

Thats a very good piece of advice and I cannot agree more.

Another thing that bothers me is that I have a number of empty houses - 6th to 11th! Should I even worry about it? Or does it mean that I am lacking in those areas and thus I need to improve on it?

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posted March 17, 2008 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

astroscorp -

First, let's accept the fact that your Soul is still Completely Scorpio and NOT Leo. Because only being Scorpio has made you get closer to yourself, discover the seething and cutting truth of your life, open the book of astrology, searching this website and drop a message. Leo will be quite ignorant of admitting their own mistakes. So, first you are still completely Scorpio as a Soul and it will never change.

Now let's look at your issues.

Fixed Rising and Moon Conjunct Mars in Leo - a very aggressive positioning when it comes to expressing your 'Ego'. The hard part comes with amazingly fixed Rising placements. To improve, You have to accept the good part first and focus on Good parts. The best part from your side is amazing Loyalty. The higher the Fixed planets, the higher the loyalty. You will not fickle like Geminis or you will not to go out and explore other women in a relationship for the sake of Fun. Relationship is a serious matter for you. And, you remain loyal throughout the relationship.

Now, let's observe closely - Your Sun is in Scorpio which is a Square from your ASC MOON and MARS - which means there is a lot of conflicts regarding what you want (as a Scorpio Soul) and what you project as a Leo Moon Mars Rising. It's almost as if you want to be manipulative like a Scorpio - but - you acted as a Generous or Egoistic Leo. These conflicts raise major concerns from the other side because women can't relate easily with you - especially those with Air or Earth women.

RE: Cancer Women: I believe Cancer women are perfect for you because generally they have one or two planets in Leo and they would create a good conjunct and trine placements. The most important part with Cancer women is you have to be very senstive to their imaginary pains. They always have a Fear of Rejection - you have to handle it tactically - which will not be easy because of your Leo Rising - but still you can learn more by reading about Scorpios and Cancers.

Remember - Scorpio is an expert at Destructing what he has. And, destructing a Cancer relationship is devastating because after a long time Scorpio finds that Cancer woman touched his soul. And, yet, he lost her.

In your future hunting, you should focus only on Cancer women (Sorry, Pisces will retreat fast). And, hope that they also have conflicting Squares so that both can relate each other well.

Wish you the best.

mblover

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astroscorp
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posted March 17, 2008 01:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello mblover,

That was really helpful and u were right on a number of points!

The reason why I am here is because I am intrigued on how astrology can decipher a person's character. However, the main reason is that I wanna know what had gone wrong in my life and perhaps to better handle things in the future.

I have been told by my friends to take things slow and not hurry things because I seem to 'destruct' things even before it happens - re the cancerian lady. But that was a learning experience for me and now I try to approach things in a different manner.

I have also been reading up alot on cancers and scorpios hoping to get to know more about them and their behavior. One thing that confuses be about cancerian is they tend to walk sideways and never forward. They tend to hide when dealt with confrontation (i confess about my liking for her) and they just disappear from your life even when I just want to be friends with her (since she said there were no sparks bw us). Well me being the scorpio I can never understand why they have to behave in such manner. Frustrating! I have tried to probe a few times but I get negative responses. So I've since retreated and have not contacted her for a few weeks. Lets see if she will come out of her shell one day and say hi.

And you were right in saying that relationship is a serious matter for me and that I remain loyal throughout the relationship. One of the reason why me and the cappy broke up was cuz the cappy was making me way too insecure with her constant hanging out with her mates and that caused loads of arguments.

I'm like discovering myself every other day with astrology and its indeed a very interesting journey.

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lalalinda
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posted March 17, 2008 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello and Welcome to LL astroscorp

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astroscorp
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posted March 18, 2008 11:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the welcome lalalinda.

Well it looks the girl whom can hold a stare longer than I do is a Virgo!

Btw is it still possible to generate a synastry chart even though I don't know her birth time?

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Isolaede
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posted March 18, 2008 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isolaede     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My dear Scorpio:

Welcome to Linda Land! : )

First of all, let me commend you for your desire to understand yourself better, and to transcend your current limitations. I think this willingness to transform shows greatness of spirit.

Others here have done a far better job than I could do at analyzing your chart. But here are a few things I’ve noted in addition. I think your Venus in Libra is a huge part of your need to relate to people, but you also have Sun, Mercury, and Uranus in the 4th house, which is the house of home and family. This could also be considered a house of long term committed relationships - the kind where you settle down and begin forming families. I like to think of houses as the places we direct our energy. In your case your soul energy (Sun) needs to express itself in your home and probably in a long term, committed relationship. You probably feel lost without the comfort and security of long term relationships, and it’s probably important to share your space with someone that makes you feel cozy and comfortable. Your soul needs a partner that feels like “home” to you.

In this sense a Cancer girl is perfect for you, because these women as warm and comforting as a cup of hot coco on a cold day.

BUT - you have to be aware of one more thing. As a Scorpio you are already an intense person, someone weak spirited people will never be able to fully embrace or understand. But you also have your moon and mars sitting right on your Ascendant. Planets that sit in the first house in part define how people see you. So someone with Neptune in the first house would seem dreamy, artsy, and maybe a little disconnected from reality. Someone that has mars in the first house would come across as overtly direct and likely very aggressive, maybe even an “angry” type of person. With moon in your first house you may also seem emotional, passionate, or perhaps even a bit volatile. Both of these placements will heighten the intensity people perceive in you. Perception is NOT necessarily reality of course - you are a Scorpio and just as able to control your emotions, as you are able to control every other aspect of your life. But people standing out the outside will see your ascendant “mask” with the planets sitting in the first house and make assumptions about who you are inside.

You’ve already mentioned that you were a bit aggressive in your pursuit of your Cancer girl. I wouldn’t be too hard on yourself about this - you haven’t been in the dating market for a while, and it takes a while to fall into the right mindset date after you’ve been in a relationship for a while. However, I do have a few tips for dealing with Cancer girls in the future.

When it comes to understanding Cancer girls it is best to think of them in light of animal so often associated with them. Like the crab, the heart and soul of the Cancer girl is SO soft, and vulnerable, that she had to build a shell about herself to protect herself. The flesh underneath that shell can be bruised and hurt so easily. Most Cancers are VERY slow to drop that shell, and let people in deep enough to hurt their tender bits.

In order to properly protect themselves, Cancer’s are VERY slow movers. They need time to properly assess our prospective suitors and decide if it is safe to trust them with their tender souls. Men that rush a Cancer girl, or aggressively try to force her hand will automatically discounted. In the mind of a Cancer girl, this kind of man could never be gentle enough to handle her soft heart with tender care. By rushing her he also shows he doesn’t respect her enough to move at her pace, or understand her enough to know why she needs to move so slowly.

In my opinion, the reason your Cancer girl said she didn’t feel a connection with you is because you did not give her time to analyze what she felt. You probably pushed her to hard and to fast, which made her feel you did not understand or respect her enough to wait on her slower pace.

So she distanced herself. Most Cancer women will cut off contact with suitors that have pushed them too hard, or men they have parted ways with. It’s a defensive mechanism. These gentle girls need to retreat into their shells, hide for a while, and get their emotions straight again. I think part of her may hope that this will give you time to get your feelings straight too. Most Cancers will run away from things that hurt them, cutting people out of their life (at least for a time). I’m not saying it’s a mature action, but it’s one I and so many other Cancers are guilty of. It’s very rare that this distance lasts forever, but Cancer girls (and boys) truly do need this healing, “shell” time. The time this distance will last depends on how much you touched her heart, or hurt her, or even on how much she intuits you still feel for her. I doubt she believes you truly want to be “just friends” now. And in all truth, if you look deep into yourself, do you really want to be just friend?

I don’t know what future there may be for you and this particular Cancer girl, but I think it likely that she came into your life to help you realize a few things about yourself. Perhaps she even showed up to prepare you for another girl, similar in spirit.

If I were you, I would not limit yourself to only looking for one particular sign. Instead look for someone that understands you, and can appreciate you for all of your passionate intensity. As a Scorpio I am quite sure you have a wealth of incredible and admirable attributes, and many a woman would be lucky to have you in her life. You just need to find someone that appreciates you for who you are.

I wish you the best of luck in all of your life’s journeys.

- Isolaede

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posted March 19, 2008 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isolaede, Very nice information on Cancer women. It helps.

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astroscorp
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posted March 20, 2008 07:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow thanks Isolaede! That was really useful information about cancerian ladies ~ if only I had consult you'll much earlier. But I have to point out that I did not pressed or rushed her for an exclusive r/s or a commitment. All I did was to tell her that I like her and I'd like to see her again if possible and thats about it. I confessed about liking her after 2 outings - we met online. And she admitted that she enjoyed the time we spent together. Is that consider too aggressive or moving too fast from a cancerian point of view?

Anyway thats a forgone story and I'll put it down that its her loss for not giving us a chance to get to know each other better and who knows something special may happen. And I doubt she's interested to be with friends with me anymore since she's sorta avoiding me. There was once I asked her out for a friendly chill out @ a cafe via text - and her reply was "thanks for the invite, why don't you ask your hot dates?" I was like huh?!?!.. so What exactly was she implying?

Looks like I have to tone down my intensity if I were to have much luck in love cuz its scaring potential partners away ~ but sometimes I just can't help it. I get real excited and obsessed with that person.

And Isolaede, you were right in saying that I am somebody who would feel lost without the comfort and security of long term relationships. And my ex cappy just doesn't give me that assurance.

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astroscorp
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posted March 21, 2008 11:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello all,

I was checking up on my aspects and found out that I do not have Saturn in it. And it got me curious. Does it signify or imply anything?

Thanks.


Sun Square Moon
Sun Conjunction Mercury
Sun Trine Jupiter
Sun Conjunction Uranus
Sun Square Ascendant
Sun Opposition Midheaven
Moon Conjunction Mars
Moon Conjunction Ascendant
Mercury Conjunction Uranus
Mercury Opposition Midheaven
Venus Conjunction Pluto
Mars Conjunction Ascendant
Jupiter Trine Uranus
Uranus Square Ascendant
Uranus Opposition Midheaven
Neptune Sextile Pluto
Neptune Trine Ascendant

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