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Got Gemini?
Knowflake

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posted March 27, 2008 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What can you tell me about my relationship life? Why are they the way they are? I seemed to get matched up with some doozies. I couldn't be married to a more incompatible person, a Pisces with a Virgo moon, Aries merc, and aqua Venus (shudders everytime I think about it).

It seems that I feel every chick ive ever been involved with was "the one." I'm a guy and it is hard for me to deal with the fact that I fall hard for chicks quite quickly.

I have this overwhelming feeling that I need someone more like myself in order to be happy. My need for equality, fairness, and reciprocation in a relationship are really strong and if those requirements are not met, I start to think negatively about the relationship.

I'm not a *** for tat type of person that when I do something for my woman I want her to do something back right away, no, its not like that. I view equality and fairness as something that happens over time. I don't even look for these things but I notice them when they are not present.

Why am I like this? Is there some lesson to be learned from my chart that I don't know about? Also I want to add that Its hard for me to let go. I can deal with being alone but I much prefer not to.

Help me out fellow knowflakes! Please!

Me: 6-15-1978 @11:27am EDT in Atlantic City, Nj. And if you wanna compare charts with my wife, hers is 3-13-1979 @ 12:30pm EDT in Atlantic City, Nj.

I'm posting this from my iphone so I can't post my chart till I get home, however I did post my chart in another thread on the first page of this forum, but I'll post my birth info anyway.

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amowls
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posted March 27, 2008 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, her Sun, Juno, Vesta, Ceres and Mars are in your 7th house (marriage), so it's really no wonder why you wanted to be in a relationship with her. Her vertex is also conjunct your IC.

In my opinion, being with someone exactly like yourself is pretty boring. I think differences in our SOs from ourselves is rather refreshing because they can teach you things about life that wouldn't learn otherwise.

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posted March 27, 2008 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dunno, it just seems like everything in our relationship revolves around her. I feel our marriage is very unbalanced. It always seems like I get the short end of the stick. I feel those 12th house mars inner power struggles.

During our breakup, I dated an aqua (2-15-1984 @ 12:05 am est in Newark, nj) that seemed like a good fit but I ended it because she had an issue with being lazy and a liar. I don't call her at all but she still tries to call me to this day.

I treated her really well while we dated. I don't know why I go through this crap.

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robyn.c
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posted March 27, 2008 02:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does mrs got gemini know how you feel? you shudder at her astrology? if my husband was writing this i would be distraught. why not post your charts on the new forum? tho it sounds like you need a kick up the khyber rather than an astrologer

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PaidVacation
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posted March 27, 2008 02:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It sounds like you have to own your own issues and needs, and communicate them to her. Maybe she doesn't know what you need, and you have to assert those needs (properly, that is, not in a whiny, critical way). You aren't helpless here!

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heart cakes
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posted March 27, 2008 03:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey got gemini..

you said you guys broke up right? i think it's okay to air your frustrations in context.. i don't have time right now to look at your charts, but i did notice that your exwife has the same birthdate as a good friend of mine. also someone posted about a guy born on this day as well, just a few days ago, and was lamenting that relationship too!

my friend is a bit of a heart breaker and a bit selfish. he does have leo rising though.

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posted March 27, 2008 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not even posting the half of it. We talk about astrology a lot. But to answer your question, no, she doesnt know that I come to this forum. She knows I feel we are incompatible astrologically.

You say you would be dustraugt but I think you would be more distraught if you had to go through half the things she has put me through. You'd tell me I should have ran for the hills looooong ago an never looked back. I know there are two sides to a story but I'm posting mine here.

Let me give an example. I don't do the infidelity thing and believe that is a relationship breaker. She belives that if I caught her cheating (which I did), that I should totally forget about it and move on based on her schedule of when I should be over it. And let me tell you, that's just the tip of the iceberg. That is one of the biggest reasons why we split for 7 months and almost got a divorce. I want to make it work for the sake of our children first, and to give her a second chance at our marriage. M just having a hard time forgiving her for cheating and trusting her again.

I'm here telling you this because I see her old ways creeping back up, however, she is trying so I have to give her that. And I say shudders because of her impersonal love style that is caused by her Venus in aqua. We actually had a long discussion about our individual love styles and how we perceived each other this morning.

Sometimes I feel like I was too nice to her and that is why she took advantage. She said my main problem was that I internalized and didn't talk to her about what bothered me. But the thing is, I DID tell her what bothered me, she just didn't listen.

Another big reason we broke up was because she was incredibly selfish. Everything was always about her.

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Skybound_Piscean
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posted March 27, 2008 03:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it´s like déja vu...

I´m Pisces and when I read your post it´s like it´s my ex (a gemini) who writes all this about little me... *lol*

You are around 10 years younger than him, and he has matured considerably, so I guess there is hope for you too... one day you will wake up and realise that the grass is not greener over there and maybe, just maybe realise it takes two to tango... or as my grandmother said about Geminis; "they never chase the tram they are already sitting in"... (got that?) *lol*

N.B. No offence GotGemini - I enjoy reading your posts (so Gemini-ish! and I don´t mean to be nasty or anything, but your post reminds me of thinking twice before dating a Gemini again *lol*

Take Care!

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heart cakes
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posted March 27, 2008 03:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
okay so your concerns are..

you want to know why you get in relationships that compromise your sense of and need for fairness?

you want to try to work it out with your wife (i thought you said you broke up but maybe i misread), but aren't sure you can trust her?

i would say.. that is a very fair approach and you have given her a chance to show she is capable of fidelity, even though it hurts you to have been cheated on. that is understandable. i just can't tell what you are asking specifically.

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Got Gemini?
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posted March 27, 2008 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow is all I can say to that. That sounds like something she would say. Man, its not hardly all about me. Not taking offense to what your saying but you think its all about me? Wow. So if the shoe was on the other foot, how would you feel? I did nothing to make her do any of the things she has done. Is that your belief on the subject of infidelity? Do you think its okay and something that should be looked over?
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Dani California
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posted March 27, 2008 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dani California     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have nearly all the same chart placings as you apart from the Asc, I know exactly what you mean, especially when you said you're too nice and taking advantage. I feel like this quite often, that I'm far far too nice to people, and they just plain take advantage.

I've often wondered if its something in my chart as well.

I hope you and your wife can work it out and communicate. Also, I must say I find water signs plain difficult to communicate with, they just don't 'get' me IYKWIM....... not that that should make any difference. I think they just think differently.

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Skybound_Piscean
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posted March 27, 2008 04:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got Gemini!
Don´t know if you refered to my post in your “woaw-reply” but, just to make you aware of that what you wrote in your first post kind of “sounded” a bit like a… hm, one-sided complaint? I´m sure you are a good guy, but understand that your first post …well, it might have come across a bit whiny…

”I seemed to get matched up with some doozies. I couldn't be married to a more incompatible person, a Pisces with a Virgo moon, Aries merc, and aqua Venus (shudders everytime I think about it).”

She didn´t only marry you – YOU married her too right? Did you also Shudder in church when you said yes?

”It seems that I feel every chick ive ever been involved with was "the one." I'm a guy and it is hard for me to deal with the fact that I fall hard for chicks quite quickly.”

So, maybe “being a guy” is the big error in you life… *lol* No astrologer can help you there though… therapy? ;-)

”I have this overwhelming feeling that I need someone more like myself in order to be happy.”

Maybe she does too? (poor girl…?)

My need for equality, fairness, and reciprocation in a relationship are really strong and if those requirements are not met, I start to think negatively about the relationship.

“MY NEED FOR…” yup… you need to rethink about thinking when it comes to relationships ;-) as I said before “it takes 2 to tango”…;-) Maybe have a little look at “why reciprocation of equality and fairness doesn´t happen” between the two of you? Could YOU be one of the two factors here?

”I'm not a *** for tat type of person that when I do something for my woman I want her to do something back right away, no, its not like that. I view equality and fairness as something that happens over time. I don't even look for these things but I notice them when they are not present. “

I´m sure SHE too notice if they are not present … ;-)

“Why am I like this? Is there some lesson to be learned from my chart that I don't know about? Also I want to add that Its hard for me to let go. I can deal with being alone but I much prefer not to. Help me out fellow knowflakes! Please!”

I wish I could, but I see no remedy in sight for this type of ailment… selfishness can only be cured when recognition of illness has been uptained… ok, joke!...*lol*

I hope you sort it out with your wife in the end, but think about it… you do come across as if you don´t realise how selfish your first post sounded.

Dani California has a point with watersigns and communication - we aren´t always being understood, so maybe this is the main problem here?

Good Luck!

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heart cakes
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posted March 27, 2008 04:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i agree, with that much air in your chart it may be difficult to understand her piscean ways.. but.. there can be great spiritual understanding and resonance too..

but i don't think water signs can be *understood*. it's more about going with the flow, following feelings.. maybe if you tried stepping out of your mind or need to understand her, you can see if you can feel it out with her, from today on, if this is a relationship you both want to salvage. maybe she is thwarting your efforts to communicate if she feels you are being too persistent about it (dunno if you are; just a guess).

but her venus compliments your sun and moon, and your venus compliments her sun and moon, so i think there is a chance of things working out, if that is what you are wanting.

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posted March 27, 2008 04:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't dive into the deep blue sea if you live up in the clouds...

then again, the sea reflects the sky and the sky warms the sea.


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Got Gemini?
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posted March 27, 2008 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Skybound look, I'm not a selfish person. Whiny? Definitely not me. I posted my side of the story because its my side of the story. You're right about me not posting up the "whole" picture which may have made it seem onesided. However, let me clarify some things for you.

First, Its not all about me, never has been. I ty to the best of my ability to do the things that mass her happy. That entails a lit but I try to do what I can. I support her, treat her with respect, give her companionship, help cook, clean, worked two jobs for 5 years so we could get her teaching degree, and the list goes on so no, I'm not selfish or whiny. I think I have a legitamate gripe. I treated her like a queen and all I asked was to be treated well. So you are saying these wants are selfish?

Please elaborate if you will, and again, I'm not taking offense. Its just that our convo here is very familiar.

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posted March 27, 2008 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. Speak to a counsellor
2. Speak to a lawyer (if you feel you are at breaking point)


Astrology will be of some minor help to you. As for what others say, it takes two to tango.

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posted March 27, 2008 05:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn´t say that you ARE selfish (I don´t know you) but you came across as being selfish with what you wrote.

Why don´t we ask her to come on here and write HER version - that´ll be amusing *lol*

I might have felt too much empathy with her (easy to do the way you wrote about her)as she is a pisces and I might feel a bit sorry for her... I just find it difficult to see a Gemini man being dominated and run over by a Pisces girl... but stranger things have happened...

My libra Moon just wants to see both sides of the problem... and when you also mention that the Aqua girl was being Lazy and a liar... hm... I thought, isn´t it very geminish to look for something else/new instead of "dealing with the problem" - we ALL have our faults and we will always find new/other faults with other people no matter what signs we mix with...

I remember being with the gemini-guy, no problem with verbal communication - great! But we didn´t "understand" each other... no matter how many words that we exchanged...

I agree with what has been said before here; go and talk with a councellar... I know cases where it has really worked wonders for couples... I think you both need to get help from outside to sort this out.


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posted March 27, 2008 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey 23, I'm actually on my way to my 3rd one on one marriage counseling session right now LOL! As far as lawyers are concerned, we been to that point and decided to just give it another chance.

Its complicated because she never wanted me to leave but she put me to my breaking point, I couldn't take it any longer. I think the time we spent apart has made her realize the things she has done were wrong. She is getting better in some areas and I'm trying to work on my flaws as well.

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posted March 27, 2008 06:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also want to add reg. being unfaithful…

If someone has been unfaithful then I don´t see it as an “astrological problem”… the placement or a natal chart doesn´t make a cheater but the action chosen by the individual for whatever reasons – free will for good or bad.

Usually these cases, when one partner has been unfaithful, are too “infected” to sort out by just “moving on and forgetting about it” – when going to a therapist or a councellar the act itself by just going there can make a big difference – by symbolically drawing the line for a new beginning and be proof of both wanting to make it work.

I sincerely hope you and your wife will sort it out Got Gemini.

Take Care!

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posted March 27, 2008 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey skybound, its cool. I dunno, I wouldnt say she dominated me, I would say I am a nice guy. She has told me before that all her previous guys treated like crap and she wasn't used to someone treating her good. Maybe that had something to do with it.

Anyways, just got out of my session which went well.

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posted March 27, 2008 07:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
a couple of days ago, in heartcakes thread you were saying that you use cafe astrology to check out aspects whenever you meet a new female....


like i said, if i was your wife, id be distraught.

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posted March 27, 2008 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey skybound, its cool. I dunno, I wouldnt say she dominated me, I would say I am a nice guy. She has told me before that all her previous guys treated like crap and she wasn't used to someone treating her good. Maybe that had something to do with it.

Anyways, just got out of my session which went well.

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posted March 27, 2008 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Its complicated because she never wanted me to leave but she put me to my breaking point, I couldn't take it any longer. I think the time we spent apart has made her realize the things she has done were wrong. She is getting better in some areas and I'm trying to work on my flaws as well.

Well if both sides work at it, then maybe things might get better.

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Got Gemini?
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posted March 27, 2008 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not pursuing her. I wouldnt have tried while I'm trying with my wife either. I am curious by nature so I wanted to see what our synastry was like. Please don't judge me. I have never cheated on my wife and never will. Sorry if I am curious.

I'm not sure but I also though I stated I wouldnt pursue her unless me and my wife split. Were working it out. I haven't seen or spoken to that libra since then.

I guess you could say I'm wrong cause I'm curious and ask about other women, but I don't call anyone or have cybersex if that is what yall are thinking.

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Got Gemini?
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posted March 27, 2008 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know some of the things I has said make it seem like my actions are counterproductive to working it out with my wife (I.e., the libra and the woman i saw at work), however, let me make this clear, I have not, nor will not pursue or entertain a relationship of any kind with another female as long as I'm with my wife. The only way I'd try anything with another female is if my wife and I broke up.

While some may say even flirting is cheating, I don't think so in my case because it happened that one time and I wouldnt take it any further, also, I'm a flirt by nature. So please, understand that I have not done anything that would give my wife reason to be distraught. Should I flirt? Probably not, but I don't think I hurt anyone. It sounds like a double standard but it isn't. I playfully flirt with NO sexual overtones. But I know, that still doesnt always make it okay. Hmm... Maybe I'll stop since it is in a way counterproductive.

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