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Lana29865
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posted April 16, 2008 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lana29865     Edit/Delete Message
The energies of Mars and Saturn can work just fine together, especially in a conjunction (or a trine or a sextile).

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Lara
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posted April 16, 2008 04:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Venusdeindia,

Thank you so much for your post. Luckily l discovered Narcissism in my early 20's and nipped it in the bud through therapy.

I am very un co-dependent, l love my own company and do not need to be in a relationship at all. Neither of my ex husbands were Narcissists, although they both had mother issues and one was very insecure.

I shall look at the link and l take absolutely no offense to your post. I am able to keep things in perspective and how are you to possibly know what l am like when l am just a name on a website, so l totally understand how you took a wild guess!

I do agree though that narcissism is detrimental in adult life and that there are many out there whom live this way.

It's not that l don't want boring steadiness, it's that l am very different and l need a man whom has the breadth of vision and open-mindness to understand that. I need to soar and dive, have highly intellectual yet deep, life-changing conversations with enough maturity to be able to handle dealing with issues as and when they come up!

I am also not the one who gets hurt because l always leave them LOL
Sorry to bang on but you seem to have a pretty dire impression of me so far!

Lara

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winky_winky
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posted April 16, 2008 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for winky_winky     Edit/Delete Message
lara, surely we all have rship issues, tell u what after living 7 years with my boyfriend i just left him because i coudlnt cope no more...
So people are defined by their rships as it shows who we really are by reacting to others... hmmmmmm... all that fire of urs gets heated up with ur leo i tell u.... be careful with leos as they tend to be quite authoritative... then again they are unique in the sense that u will always feel so warm around them they are difficult to let go... hmmmmmm... all this synastry is doing my head in so i am posting here my synastry with the fiery arian for u to hve a look and anyone else for that matter...

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winky_winky
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posted April 16, 2008 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for winky_winky     Edit/Delete Message
snowflakes look at the composite.....
How to discern between love and sexual desire? now everybody tells me off saying he is just a good lay and i cant get him out of my head! Like the kylie song!
Look at how all the rship houses are activated in composite, showing luck at home, communication in love, sun in 6 pointing to an imbalanced rship, venus in 7 pointing to joy in sharing, and moon in 8 showing intense emotional needs...... Dare i say more?


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Lara
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posted April 16, 2008 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Hi winky
Thanks for posting your chart. I will look at it later today when l have finished all my chores but straight away l see more red lines than blue ones which basically means that the relationship is more challenging than easy!

Then l notice you are Taurus sun and he is Aries sun :O
This combination is disastrous imho. I prefer the square to the semi-sextile sun signs.

Your sun/moon are square whereas his are compatible.

You have some lovely aspects like moon/venus conjunct.

Will be back later!

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Lara
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posted April 16, 2008 04:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Composite sun in 6th is supposed to be a no no, so l heard.

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winky_winky
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posted April 16, 2008 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for winky_winky     Edit/Delete Message
grrrrrrrrrrrr lara dont tell me that 6th sun composite is bad i am going berserkk apparently is an unhappy position for the sun as it points to service... that is unbalanced in the sense that one person does too much for the other...
what u reckon with so much in 7? i am lost... not to mention 8th ladden with moon...hmmmmmmm tell u 8th house ladden is pretty tough....... too much emotion

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Happy Dragon
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posted April 16, 2008 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
re the 'emotional vampires' thread in SU ..
much of that was deleted after i read the following link ..
~ http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/narcissism/malignant_narcissism_vaknin_revisited.html ~
and btw: mr.vaknin featured on a brit. tv documentary about 'egotism' ..
and he claims to be n.p.d. himself ..

the originating link ..
~ http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm ~
.. i started to give that site a miss due to this link ..
~ http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/organic_portals.htm ~

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venusdeindia
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posted April 16, 2008 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusdeindia     Edit/Delete Message
oh thank god lara

" Luckily l discovered Narcissism in my early 20's and nipped it in the bud through therapy.'

thing is i come from a family of manic narcissists, lickily NOT my parents. im sorry i tokk a " Dire " guess but what u said about excitement ... well thats one thing i have heard a lot. and then u said how awful those relationships were. i just freaked becoz i have 2 friends who were inverted narcissists and they went thru pretty rotten guys before they found out what was going on.
i understand what u meant now...

"l need a man whom has the breadth of vision and open-mindness to understand that. I need to soar and dive, have highly intellectual yet deep, life-changing conversations with enough maturity to be able to handle dealing with issues as and when they come up!"

THAT is exactly what i need, and if i m not mistaken we both have jupiter contacts. i have sun and moon trine jupiter, i absolutely crave what u said you want.i dont want boring steadiness either just a bond that is intellectually stimulating and the emotional part doesnt fade out with time.

"I am also not the one who gets hurt because l always leave them LOL'


YAAAY thats a refreshing change, since u are new i guess u dont know about Venusdemilos pisces guy whp broke her heart into sawdust ??
we had so many threads discussing THAT, he was a classic narcissist, then were other girls who went thru serial cr*ppy relationships and it hurts to hear.

man i m so glad i was wrong.. hope u can make it work, what transits are u going thru ?
also your progressed asteroids synastry looks promising, theoritically u should be able to make it

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Lara
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posted April 16, 2008 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Venusdelinda!

You remember those Draco and asteroid aspects we discussed a few weeks ago? Well that is with the same guy!
I'm so glad you were wrong too

T sun conjunct N moon, N venus, N saturn LOL
T moon trine N sun, N mercury, N jupiter
T venus conjunct N saturn
T mars square N moon, N venus, N saturn, N NN
T saturn trine N sun, N moon, N mercury, N venus
T saturn square N mars, N neptune

I think that says it all really LOL and that's just me!!!!!

I am glad you agree with me over what l want in a man. It's so hard to find that but this guy has this ability.

Thanks Venus, your posts are always so insightful. x

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