posted April 15, 2008 01:17 PM         

You can't tell me that a 5yr old Aries child set herself to have her parents divorce lol
That is just ridiculous. Anyway, every basket has a few rotten eggs but in general l really cannot see how you can say that a Piscean is more evolved than an Arian.
Aries are leaders... Pisces spend their whole time trying not to drown!!! How does that help anyone achieve anything?

(no offense to any star sign)

posted April 15, 2008 01:23 PM         

Westerners tend to view everything as a competition, hey that person can't be more evolved than me! I"m more evolved!

Aries of course, are highly competitive!

More evolved is a pretty vague term, I think its necessary to hone down the parameters.

I believe that aries are simply less aware. Less aware of their feelings, less aware of others, less aware of the currents of the universe.

Pisces are so sensitive and aware that they get overhwlemed. Pisces pick up on so many motives and moods, that they dissolve into a pool of mush.

Aries cuts through all the crap to their direct desire, they will things into action. ALl the subtleties of the human experience are not as easily at their access as other signs like scorpio, pisces...but that doesn't mean that aries can't grow aware, they're just such thunderbolt energy, energy of motion and impulse, that their ability to really open their consciousness can be limited.

posted April 15, 2008 02:02 PM         

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You can't tell me that a 5yr old Aries child set herself to have her parents divorce lol

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I live with a 12yo Arien (Sun/Merc/Mars). I agree with your assessment -- my son has a lot of energy and personality, but there's a newness to him, a kind of blank-white-page essence, an almost total lack of sophistication -- that's not to say he's crude, merely not-jaded. His joy at new discoveries, or anything new to him anyway, seems unmatched by many other personalities. I was engaged to an Arien many years ago, and even the adults express this innocent "WOW!" vibe when they encounter some new facet of life. I especially enjoy the cheerfulness of my little FireMan -- although a lot of that probably comes from his Leo placements.....

posted April 15, 2008 02:35 PM         

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You can't tell me that a 5yr old Aries child set herself to have her parents divorce lol

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Lots of kids survive divorce just fine. I wouldn't necessarily include that amongst the HARD HARD lessons I've seen them deal with.

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I personally don't feel that any of us here at SchoolRoom Earth are on our first visit to this class -- but that's just imho.

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I would tend to agree.

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Aries are not INFERIOR to any sign, lets not go there, that's not what an astrological discussion is about. They can be highly "evolved," in their kindness, generosity, I'm simply pointing out that they seem to be fresher, and newer, and more self focused.

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posted April 15, 2008 03:05 PM         

It seems to be a lot of the deepest, philosophical, and emotionally in touch people I have known have some definite suicide and nihilism issues.

posted April 15, 2008 03:58 PM         

The fool represent right where aries comes from, the fold, so to speak. The fool is just starting his journey, he seems new, but his innocence and naivety are the signature of a conquered ego and spiritual consciousness.

The ace of wands represents that first spark, that lightning energy, the hottest temperature achievable on the earths surfrace by natural means, that of a lightning bolt. It is the first step, the first movement that leads too all other journeys. This is what I see in aries.

This is definitely not an aries bashing thread!

posted April 15, 2008 05:11 PM         

I should have made myself clearer. I just presumed you would fill in the gaps and realize that l wasn't stupid enough to think a simple, straight forward divorce was classified as HARD HARD as far as lessons go.

So l apologize for not giving the full picture to you. I think lessons, like pain is relative but the point l was originally trying to make is that 1 divorce is nothing... but a child going through 7 divorces coupled with maybe an alcoholic parent and on top of that lack of emotional fulfillment can suddenly become pretty heavy lessons.
(l am only theorizing here and using made up examples) although my parents between them did divorce 7 times from when l was 5 to 17 years old.

That is not really such a basic, simple divorce!!!

posted April 15, 2008 07:00 PM         

That is an extraordinary amount of divorce to endure. I don't think I've heard a story similar to that before.

posted April 15, 2008 11:11 PM         

Anyway, I think it can go both ways, excuse my Libra ascendant . I see myself as "holding my own" more than any other sign at my age, and I say that without my small ego getting in the way. I believe I am a sheep-type that Linda has mentioned in her books, I tend to be the more subtle Aries. Most Ariens get a kick out of having experiences and setting themselves up for them. We don't want to be perceived as literally as the "infant" sign, and will be more motivated to prove that title wrong.

Our energy can seem very strong yet flustered, but we always hold our own!

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posted April 15, 2008 11:16 PM         

Aries is the first sign of the zodiac. It represents birth, as Pisces represents death and consciousness of the soul. The ram is conscious only of himself. He's the infant of the zodiac-the newborn baby-completely absorbed with his own toes and fingers. His needs come first. An infant doesn't care whether or not his parents or the neighbors are sleeping. When he's hungry or wet, he yowls in discomfort. He wants his bottle, and he wants his diaper changed now, and don't be pokey about it. When the Aries person has an idea or something he wants to get off his mind, he'll call you at four in the morning without a qualm. Why shouldn't you be awake to listen to him? He's awake. That's all that counts. He wants something. He gets it.

Like the infant, Aries is concerned with the world only as it relates to himself. But who could call the small baby truly selfish? He's perfectly willing to lavish his smiles and favors on those who satisfy his demands. It's hard to resist a baby, because he's so totally unaware that he's causing anyone the slightest inconvenience. So it is with the ram. His innocence hangs over him and mellows his aggressiveness, like the innocence of the newborn softens his egocentricity.

This disarming naivete is also why Aries people are so fearless. The baby fears nothing and no one, until he gets burned. Even then, he'll trustingly try again, when he's forgotten the hurt. There's not a trace of cunning wile in the ram, and he'll remain this way throughout his lifetime; forever believing with all his heart, always falling down and getting up again to try once more. Any doubts he collects along the way are immediately displaced by the next person who's kind to him, just as the baby forgets the pain of the safety pin that accidentally stuck in his leg the next time someone sprinkles the powder.

posted April 16, 2008 04:20 PM         

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Arians are not the infants but the idiots of the zodiac....hahaha...I hate them the most.

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Pisces isn't the most evolved sign. There isn't a "most evolved" sign, just like there isn't a "most artistic" sign or a "most intelligent" sign. Some people are here to develop their spirituality and some their artistic abilities and some their logic - and they all have a variety of sun signs. Off the top of my head, I would say that three of the "most evolved" people this planet has seen have been Martin Luther King Jr, Mahatma Gandhi, and J. Krishnamurti. None were Pisces.

posted April 16, 2008 05:32 PM         

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Off the top of my head, I would say that three of the "most evolved" people this planet has seen have been Martin Luther King Jr, Mahatma Gandhi, and J. Krishnamurti. None were Pisces.

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Jesus is widely thought to be a Pisces by the astrological community.