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Topic: Aries, the non-energy energy?
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BlueRoamer
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From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean
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posted April 14, 2008 08:12 PM
 
This is going to be difficult to describe.With almost every sign I get a definite vibe off their energy. It seems to have a certain color or tangible quality, an emotion or sensation that the presence of that sign tends to conjure. But with aries I have difficulty feeling a particular vibe from them. Perhaps this is because they are the divine spark, clean , pure energy that is not yet tainted with that of other signs. Their is often an innocence or naivety about aries, especially about the ways of others and the complexity of interactions. What do you guys think? IP: Logged |
writesomething
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posted April 14, 2008 08:16 PM
i think you're right.IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted April 14, 2008 08:20 PM
Yes, l can see what you mean.As someone with most of my important personal planets in aries l am seen as a female warrior and yet vulnerable. It puzzles people that l can be so strong yet so fragile and pure, naive as you say. So in that sense l agree that the aries vibe is immune to being pigeon-holed. Is that what you mean, Blue?
(have to call you blue cos it's such a beautiful name)  IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted April 14, 2008 08:21 PM
yet... aries women can be anything but pure LOL
They can be scarily aggressive. IP: Logged |
lechien
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posted April 14, 2008 08:50 PM
but isn't certain type of aggression also derived from naivete? maybe it makes sense is that way?IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer
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From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean
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posted April 14, 2008 09:15 PM
Yes the energy of aries is difficult to pigeon-hole.And I agree that aries can definitely be aggressive. Their attention is very narrow, if you are not on their radar you do not exist! As a sagittarius I find this strange and sometimes offensive, as I give everyone a fair shake! Aries goes and charges directly after what it wants, typically no holds barred. I don't mean pure as in sexually pure. Aries have one of the stronger sex drives, nor that they are innocent in a no sex/drugs/rock and roll sort of way. In fact this sign seems to be one of the bigger partiers, since they don't have as many stop mechanisms as other signs. I think what I mean by pure is a freshness, that the experiences they are having seem newer to them then the experiences that other signs seem to have. Aries can be very cynical, but I rarely see the world weariness that you'll see in cap, aqua, pisces. Am I making any sense? IP: Logged |
LibraChickety
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From: usa
Registered: Jul 2007
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posted April 14, 2008 09:23 PM
Blue,I agree wholeheartedly with what you're saying. They do have a special innocence about their ways - regardless of what they're doing (sex, drugs, rockin' n rollin').
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Sun in Libra
Asc. in Sagittarius
Moon in Virgo
Mercury in Libra
Venus in Scorpio
Mars in Leo
Jupiter in Libra
Saturn in Libra
Uranus in Scorpio
Pluto in Libra
Stellium in the 10th
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I feel so naked  IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer
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From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean
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posted April 14, 2008 09:26 PM
Now libra, there's a sign with definitive energy.Such pleasing folk. Very pleasant companions. IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer
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posted April 14, 2008 10:05 PM
Maybe what astrolgers say is possible, that aries are new souls....maybe their energy would feel unfamiliar or new because there is no karmic past??
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starrym
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posted April 14, 2008 11:48 PM
yep def here you on the Aries as a new energy, very innocent, very fresh and outgoing and unassuming... but because of this, i feel like i can spot them from a mile away. also esp because they are often vocal and open (i have met a shy aries type -usually in a combination w Pisces- but even these have a wild, in your face side)i actually feel like Pisces is the hardest sign for me to pick out or notice anything too distinguishing about. i think also that some Sun signs are too easily overshadowed by other placements in the chart- but Aries isnt one of them IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer
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posted April 15, 2008 03:09 AM
Pisces is the hardest to figure out cause they're a blend of all the previous signs. I believe linda mentioned this.Once I know a pisces though, their energy is very obvious. Highly sensitive, watery, depressive/sad usually, melancholic, compassionate. Sometimes they can use their emotional powers to screw around with your feelings. Those are the less developedones. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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From: CA, USA
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posted April 15, 2008 03:12 AM
I've been thinking about Aries and their association with the notion of the child, and combining it with what Jesus says about being like a child, and combining that with the notion of the power of your subconscious mind. Like subconscious mind gurus tell you to create your own mental universe where everything is positive. Live it in your imagination, and you'll be able to live it outside of your imagination. Aries, to a degree, live in their own imagination. They don't necessarily take heed of reality. They don't believe in limitation. They just press through. Jesus talked about the humility of a child, and I'm not sure if that bit really ties in or not, but the notion of becoming like a child...if we take his words to the symbolism of astrology... how would that play out?Hopefully, that makes sense to someone. Was going to save it for HSC. I'm sure he'd get it. IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer
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posted April 15, 2008 03:20 AM
Good post, AG.IP: Logged |
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From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain
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posted April 15, 2008 03:30 AM
Well I think the inner child post by AG can be extended also to mention that aries is also about "I". I have an aries relative and he can't seem to understand other points of view, its his view or no view. Everything done, said, determined is in relation to himself. He says his mum won't assist or cater to him but he just can't see that he does the same to her. And as mentioned, its not a world weary sign. This relative spends all of his hard cash on traveling and obsessively traveling in one spot, constantly exploring it from different angles (not necessarily a bad idea though). So that's my observation of aries, through the observation of my relative. Maybe also the purity comes from the cardinal nature of the sign as well? IP: Logged |
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posted April 15, 2008 03:31 AM
Q to all: how do you see Aries AC and do you see some level of purity in these individuals despite other qualities in their charts?IP: Logged |
praecipua
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Registered: Aug 2007
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posted April 15, 2008 07:35 AM
i agre with the innocence bit. quote:
Maybe what astrolgers say is possible, that aries are new souls....maybe their energy would feel unfamiliar or new because there is no karmic past??
well i'm not so sure. my mum is aries and i really believe she's got some karmic issues... with me and my sisters. but could their innoncence be because vedic astrology they would be pisces? aries would then be evolved and spiritual, and be granted the capacity to be what they imagine, as AG said? that could be a interpretation of pisces (which is linked to the idea of pisces as endings and beginings at the same time.) IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted April 15, 2008 09:55 AM
Actually l disagree that Arians are young souls.
Arians are WAY more perceptive than Pisceans. Pisceans to me are lost and drowning n their own sea, whereas Arians can know a person inside out in about 5 minutes. I have watched Arians for 40 yrs now and they are incredible at penetrating your mask, finding your core and knowing your strengths and weakness in the blink of an eye.I know more Arians with HARD HARD lessons in this life than any other sign, including myself (even though i'm not a sun sign Aries). Personally, l have had to endure more lessons in this lifetime already than most people deal with in 3 or 4 lifetimes. If l wasn't at the place l am l would never ever have survived even one of these lessons and there have been quite a few of them. I know l don't have to return in another life after this one, and l have important karmic planets in Aries like Chiron, NN, Saturn, Venus, Moon!!! So, contrary to popular belief I think Aries are actually the older soul, the more evolved of the whole horoscope and this is why they are purer and more innocent, vulnerable and hard to pigeon-hole. This is easily explained because as you get more evolved you get higher up the ladder and your energy becomes purer, your aura bigger and cleaner and your vision expands beyond your consciousness which could easily be seen as innocent and purer to a less evolved individual :P (ducking for cover!!!) lol IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted April 15, 2008 09:59 AM
May l change your sentence Blue roamer to this:"Perhaps this is because they are the divine spark, clean , pure energy that has learnt from and transcended the other signs. There is often an innocence or naivety about aries, especially about the ways of others and the complexity of interactions that is indicative of a soul nearing it's highest self, on the journey of enlightenment. For to be truly wise and evolved is to be in the purest state, have the simplest view and project untainted energy."
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lalalinda
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From: nevada
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted April 15, 2008 10:42 AM
I like it Lara  Aries is symbolized by the infant IP: Logged |
Fishean
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From: Mumbai,India
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posted April 15, 2008 11:40 AM
Arians can never judge the true mask behind a person...they go by surface behaviour...
I've found only water people,esp scorps n fishes to be capable of penetrating the core of a person...but arian innocense ?...dunno if there is anything like that,after having been cheated and lied by one...and they say fishes like me are liars ...my sneaky fish nature finally caught the arian !word of advice : - never trust an arian that they always speak the truth..whatever astrology tells you,but rather rely on ur instincts and facts ! IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted April 15, 2008 11:45 AM
Thanks LalalindaIt's the truth though... and l think with so much Aries in me, l am qualified to speak on their behalf, seeing as Arian's ALWAYS tell the truth If Pisces is the most evolved sign i'll eat my cowboy hat! lol
Pisces is the most evolved at not knowing who they are and why they are here. That's it! Aries knows who they are from the moment the umbilical cord is cut and they scream blue murder!!! hahahahaha IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer
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From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean
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posted April 15, 2008 12:03 PM
Aries just think they know whats going on.
The farther your consciousness reaches the more you realize that no one really has a clue.
I think it's a testament to the aries innocence that they believe they know who they are and what they are doing. IP: Logged |
miss_muffet
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posted April 15, 2008 12:29 PM
Arians take the black & white approach. Once they meet you, they seize you up in 5 mins and decide whether they like you or not. And they are usually right. Water signs (esp Pisceans) take a little bit longer to decide that but yes, they are generally more accurate. Then again, Pisceans change their minds so many times you will never know what they think one second to another. Aries are generally truthful to a point of hurting another person. The more evolved (or less evolved, depending on point of view) Arian will have developed tact (or lies) in order to protect himself or his loved ones. Aries can cheat and lie just like any other signs. (Every sign has that tendency.) They just have a harder time hiding it and is very rare that they will try to hide it for very long. This is not because you caught him/her but because they get to a point where they no longer care to hide it. Afterall, why should they? They would much rather do what they want and when they want. Hiding and lying is too much work. Miss Muffet
Aries Sun, Taurus Moon, Scorpio Asc
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Lara
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posted April 15, 2008 01:01 PM
agree Miss Muffet,
having been married to a Piscean and an Arian. The Arian was more evolved and smarter on every level other than manipulation. The Aries was straight shooting, the pisces was just a mess. He never knew where he was, where he was going, what he believed in. Was even more cynical than the Arian!
Interestingly, and I'm not intentionally being negative about Piscesns but all my piscean friends are the first to judge my, my actions and my views.
I prefer straight people with no lasting judging, resentment, vanity, but I also agree that aries can be cruel than Scorpio and cut you to the core if you find their Achilles heel.IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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posted April 15, 2008 01:03 PM
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If Pisces is the most evolved sign i'll eat my cowboy hat! lol
Better get to eatin', pardner. quote:
Arian's ALWAYS tell the truth
I live with an Aries who completely negates this notion. I'm going to move out in the near future because of his irresponsibility. He's an accident waiting to happen in the most tragic sense, and I don't want to be around for it. Don't get me wrong, though. There are lots of fine and good Aries out there including the three in my immediate family. You just have to be aware of their fantasy world. quote:
For to be truly wise and evolved is to be in the purest state, have the simplest view and project untainted energy."
You said, "I know more Arians with HARD HARD lessons in this life than any other sign, including myself (even though i'm not a sun sign Aries)." I do, too. My question for you is, Who set the Aries up for these HARD HARD lessons? Was it not the Aries him/herself? Wouldn't the most evolved know how to navigate a bit better? IP: Logged |
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