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astroscorp
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posted May 02, 2008 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroscorp     Edit/Delete Message
Hi all,

I've been reading up on forums and books on this pairing and mostly said that this is not a healthy r/s to begin with. One is a water sign and the other is an air sign so there would be alot of misunderstandings. I was wondering if there are any such successful pairings?

Reason I am asking is that a gemini lady caught my eye when we met at a mutual friend's party. Although mblover has advised me to find myself another cancerian lady as we can both understand each other better.

However she is not a typical gemini cuz I heard from the grapevine that she's an angsty person. So could any gemini ladies be able to help out this scorpio? How should I go about chasing after this gem?

Below is our synastry chart and she's on the outside. I don't know her birthtime so I put it down to 12 noon. Could anyone please comment on this pairing? Would appreciate it loads!

Thanks heaps!

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astroscorp
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posted May 02, 2008 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroscorp     Edit/Delete Message
And this is our composite chart.

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GemGemGem
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posted May 02, 2008 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
Astroscorp, this girl's chart looks very similar to mine...Sun, Moon, Mercury all in Gemini in the 10th House, Ascendent in Leo. Career must be very important to her.

Coincidentally, I happen to be smitten over a Scorpio at this very moment. Unfortunately, I think it is pretty much over as I have not heard from him recently, and the Leo pride in me won't allow me to call him.

I'm not an astrologer, so I will leave the chart advise to those who are experienced, but the Venus/Mars aspects look like there is a lot of mutual attraction.

Being a Gem myself, I would tell you to engage her MIND. I'm sure your scorpio magnetism is more than enough to attract her physically, but you have to keep her interest.

Whatever you do, don't play games with this girl, cause she will play them right back.
I'm not saying call her everyday, but don't hold out just to manipulate her, she will know right away.

Good luck with everything, and I hope it works out. BTW, I know Scopr/Gem couples that are married and very happy together!

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posted May 02, 2008 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe it's time to move beyond the Sun Sign basics and look at these charts as a spiritual guide to two people interrelating.

Call me crazy but I go with gut instincts and working on the relationship first, then I turn to the stars for guidance.

What you have there is a mixture of red and blue lines, a mixture of harmonious and challenging (I'm talking the synastry chart). That sounds about normal to me.

Right on the page you have an almost cradle configuration. If you think of how that works in a natal chart, then similar principles are going to kick in when we are talking about synastry. The opposition is the key ~ person in red (her?) has Moon CNJ Mercury Opposite Blue's Neptune. Confusion in communication is my first reaction on that, but don't take my word for it, read up on it and see what you think and how it plays out.

Your Venus sits on the Pluto end of her Venus Opp Pluto. That's a strong pull, but not necessarily the easiest. But if you went for easy, you might just get bored.

Given the world population I would be surprised if there was no long-lasting Scorpio/Gemini couples. Hang-on, just thought of one ~ my cousin!

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astroscorp
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posted May 02, 2008 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroscorp     Edit/Delete Message
Hi GemGemGem,

Thanks for your insight!

How would I know if she is not interested in me? What are the signs that I should be looking out for?

Manipulating.. Hmm I read that gems like a challenge? No?

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astroscorp
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posted May 02, 2008 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroscorp     Edit/Delete Message
Hi blue moon,

I'm trying to learn to read and understand a synastry/composite chart - i'm still very new to astrology.

Is there a way to tell from the charts if there's a mutual attraction b/w us both?

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posted May 02, 2008 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message
LOL. You will hate my reply. But, I hope that BM allows me to respond here.

This woman has a Gemini Sun, Moon and Mercury. Then, she has Mars Saturn and Pluto in Libra (6 Air planets!). Just by looking at these six planets, the girl is extremely sharp and intelligent. And obviously, EXTREMELY attractive, beautiful and sexy. Looks are about 5 to 10 years younger than her real age.

You already know my long term response is Negative. Because, the eventual damage on Scorpio is much stronger because Scorps can never solve puzzles provided by Gems. And, Gems fly fast.

To get closer to her, you have the following suggestions. (They have worked over and over ;-))

1. This woman needs sharp wit and significant communication.

2. Always be ready with Global knowledge, take her for a Barnes and Nobel tour. Go to starbucks, get a coffee and a cake, laugh like a child with her (This is to trigger her Wild Twin brother, who is careless)

3. Then, comes the story of her novels, check out novels and other section. This woman is an amazing reader. She reads a lot and has favorite author. Now, don't just act manipulatively, but take a sincere interest. (This is to trigger her Good Twin Brother, who is actually genuine and lovely)

4. Be ready to show her your hidden collection of books or learnings. Talk to her about your mental achievements such as how you were able to debate about something.

5. The woman wants a nature's trip. She will speak loudly at restaurant and will pay attention to others in the restaurants to Superficially analyze the environment. (This is a very funny amusing part, at last, Scorpio gets to have some superficial fun in his life)

6. Remember public affection is a huge no no. But kissing her palms and her hand is a huge trigger ;-) Here is a fascinating trick, tell her that you know palmistry, open her palms and tell her that she is very intellctual! (no brainer!).

7. Refrain from emotional depth in any discussions such as wining over your Ex Cancer or any past relationships. Gems are very broad minded and they look to future of life.

8. She will not visit your place unless there is any friendship party. But if there is one, she is more than happy to join.

9. Always remains self controlled, you are already. Scoprio's self control and intensity amaze Gems.

A lot of efforts on above will lend you one evening where you will have an opportunity to show your sharp wit during dinner (trigger her loving twin), then comes some poetry or book reading (trigger her WILD twin), then comes some palm kissing (triggering both), and then You know the rest ;-)

The Saturn in Libra along with Mars in Libra (and pluto) indicates rather a strong peronality in terms of relationships. She is serious about it so there is no short term fun here. But, to make her serious, there needs to be some short term fun!

Always remember there are two people in one person here (one is good, one is wild). And in my view there are Six in One.. Sun Moon Mercury all in Gem! A lot of intellectual debates and thoughts occuring between them.

Enjoy the ride and enjoy her eyes which wonders around the room anywhere you go with her. Don't worry, I am not unhappy. I love your new passion of learning astrology. And, Wish you the best.

And BTW, Scorp Gem Couple will last if they have a good balance of Air and Water.

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astroscorp
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posted May 02, 2008 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroscorp     Edit/Delete Message
LOL

mblover - I was very sure that you'll put in your thoughts here! And I was right!

And wow that was really helpful! Thanks! I have not gone after a gemini before and those pointers sure will come in handy.

Looking at the negative side of a scorpio/gemini relationship - My sagi friend told me to just enjoy the ride and have fun chasing the gem! :P I guess she was just trying to lower my expectation of this outcome.

I made mistakes with the cancerian lady before because I don't know their character well enough and hence I dug my own grave before I even started the chasing. I just wanna make sure that I won't be making the same mistakes with this gem.

Btw, you are right in saying that she is intelligent and sharp as she is a teacher. And she sure has attracted this scorpio big time.

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posted May 02, 2008 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
Hey there! I'm a Gemini, so perhaps I can help.

As others have said, the only way to hold onto a Gemini is to attract her through conversation. You must win her mind in order to win her heart. Geminis are very cerebral people and and find a witty conversationalist very difficult to resist! Be humorous and teach her something new. Geminis crave knowledge and we always like to learn something new. We're impressed by people who know a lot about a subject... any subject, so tell her what you're passionate about!

Do not get overly emotional at the beginning of the relationship. Unless she asks you to tell her all about your ex, don't go into details.

However, after you've known each other for about five months or so, than it is perfectly all right to show off your emotional side. Despite what others say, we don't mind hearing about the emotional tribulations or problems that other people have as long as we have known these people for a few months at least. If you get to this stage in the relationship, we will gladly listen to all of someone's problems and do everything possible to help them through their struggles.

One last thing about emotions: do not become clingy or possessive of her! Geminis value freedom, so you must give her space. This does not mean that you should encourage her to cheat on you or anything, but you have to let her have her own life or she will leave you even if she cares about you.

Another thing you should know is that Geminis will treat you exactly the way you treat them or the vibes you give off. So if you are cold towards her, she will morph into an ice queen. If you treat her with kindness, she will be loyal. However, be careful not to be extremely nice (i.e. be a doormat) especially at the beginning of the relationship because she will be suspicious of your intentions.

Some Geminis can appear to be flirting with someone despite being in a relationship. You may see her talking to some guy, laughing and having a good time. I know Scorpios are generally not light-hearted and may be offended at this behavior because they think the Gemini is being flirtacious and cheating on them. However, in most cases, the Gemini is simply fascinated by people in general and always enjoy picking the brains of others. Rest assured that if she is growing tired of you, then she will break up with you.

As long as she's still warm towards you, then she hasn't lost her interest.


Bottom line: show her your intelligence and sense of humor. Don't be possessive, save the emotions for when the relationship is past the initial stage and remember to keep her guessing!

Good luck!

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posted May 02, 2008 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
We like a challenge, yes....but we don't like to feel like we are being taken for a fool. You have to be genuine and sincere with everything you do, but without making it too easy for us. Hold back a little, but don't deliberately be cold.

You will know if she likes you, if she listens to you and LOOKS at you when you are speaking. If she seems distracted, looking around a lot...she is not that interested. Also, something I know that we Gems do when we like a guy is to give a little smile as we are listening to you.
If she is genuinely interested in you, she will ask you a lot of questions about you and your life, instead of just making you listen to her talk.

Gems love to learn, so knowing a lot of wierd facts, especially funny ones will definitely keep her entertained. We also love to learn, and admire someone who can teach us things. You have to be different and stand out in some way. She probably has a lot of guys chasing her.

I completely agree with the whole "hand" thing. I love it when a man kisses my hand.

I also agree with the "flight" thing. If you do something we don't like, or that offends us in some way, we will smile as it's happening, but then you'lll never hear from us again. It's a scary thing...

One last thing...do not be the "serious scorpio" around her. Keep it light, and have fun!!

Good luck!

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posted May 02, 2008 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for winky_winky     Edit/Delete Message
astroscorp u have to look beyond sun signs i know a lot of scorp-gem rships and besides u have a lot of leo in ur chart if i am right? that is more worrying than the other stuff, geminis are so lighthearted surely they do not accommodate all the drama u like in love...
but also i see libra in ur chart and gems are very comfy with libra...

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posted May 02, 2008 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wild sheep     Edit/Delete Message
Whoever wrote that Scorpio-Gemini pairings don't last is a moron. That is a great match; lots of compatibility there.

Pluto-ruled Scorpio types are excellent for Mercurial Gemini folks because they both value the inexorable "get it done" ability in the other, have a certain kind of draw toward precision and absolutism, and also value privacy, intimacy, security and intelligence. It's my opinion that future American President/VP team Scorpio Hillary Clinton and Gemini John Edwards are the epitome of Scorp-Gemini compatibility. (Don't flame me, I didn't post when they'd be a President/VP team or that I like it that I read their forecasts and composite as containing that potential.)

Whoever wrote that Scorpio and Gemini can't work out is just—!! That's idiotic.

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posted May 02, 2008 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message
wild sheep, we are talking about Love Relationships not business relationships. Business Relationships in fact work quite well for Squares or 6/8 patterns.

And, it was Linda Goodman (along with 100s of other Astrological Authors) who wrote that Gemini Woman/Scorpio Man relationships do not work (unless some Air and Water balance is seen either in Moon or in Rising)

So, in your definition, Linda along with 100s of other authors is a Moron and Idiotic. Then, what are you doing on linda land?

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posted May 02, 2008 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deuxantares     Edit/Delete Message
guys, relax *gives mblover and wild sheep a glass of cold drink each*

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posted May 02, 2008 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message
deuxantares, Thank you :-) TGIF.

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posted May 02, 2008 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroscorp     Edit/Delete Message
Hey guys,

Thanks so much for all of your inputs! It'll be really helpful.

Strangely I have seen 2 extreme different sides of geminis. One whom is my friend - she is jovial, light hearted, talkative, easy going, clingy and needy (venus in cancer perhaps?). The other whom I have laid my eyes on is aloof from the exterior, woman of few words, and she's labeled as angsty by her peers. I don't know if she is shy or just wary of strangers.

Anyhow I have managed to get her number and we have corresponded through text msgs and msn. I have tried to ask her out just the other day but she declined citing that she prob cld be tired from a long day (from teaching) and she said perhaps other time. So I don't know if that is a good or bad sign. Should I ask her out again in another week or should I just play the waiting game for her to get in touch with me? Are gems like cancerians whereby they'll do the push-pull game or the disappearing act?

As far as our charts go, like mblover has said the gem has loads of air in her whilst for me I have an even spread of water, air and fire planets. We both share the same rising sign - Leo. And I don't know if my venus in libra helps.. she has venus in aries.

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posted May 04, 2008 06:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Mblover ~ if you agreed with me all the time I would be so terribly bored.

As long as no-one descends into personal insults on the forum, differences of opinion are valuable insights.

Not that, in this case, I feel we are necessarily in disagreement. Gemini and Scorpio are inconjunct signs. It doesn't make the easiest mix. I have Gemini Sun Inconjunct Scorpio Ascendant (presuming my anecdotal time of birth is correct), so I know this intrinsically. The thing is though, people often like to go for difficult and make it work. So it can work and it does. Also the whole of the chart might show compatible elements. Just like how sometimes you get along well with someone for some things but have a couple of areas where you clash.

p.s

I've noticed a couple of people on here have Scorpio Suns lying on my ascendant ~ remove them please, LOL, just kidding, I certainly seem to rub them up the wrong way. All part of the fun.

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posted May 04, 2008 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks BM, I will try to control my Stings -unfortunetly I have Six of them. So, it becomes difficult sometimes. I appreciate your Broad Mind.

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posted May 05, 2008 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroscorp     Edit/Delete Message
Just the other day I was prowling thru linda forum and I came across the venus / mars aspect and apparently this aspect is supposed to signify if there is a mutual attraction b/w both parties.

So please do correct me if I am wrong.. My venus is in libra and this gem's mars is in libra. Can I say that this is a positive aspect then? However my mars is Leo but her venus is aries.. .. so how does it work out? .. i'm getting confused here...

Would appreciate if there're any kind souls who will be able to explain this pls? Thanks!

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posted May 13, 2008 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroscorp     Edit/Delete Message
I'll be meeting the gem this wkend for a chill out with other friends.. hopefully things will go well for us.

So far we have been messaging on msn. She was apprehensive in the beginning (all i got was 1 or 2 word answers) but I think she's slowly softening up and has started to converse more. And she has taken the initiative to msg me too.

wish me luck!

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posted May 13, 2008 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
I know a Scorp guy who has been with his Gem wife for 19 years and he still says she is the best woman he has ever known.

You have great potential to be happy in love (nice Venus/Mars/Pluto Pluto/Moon synastry aspects) so good luck and don't lose faith

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posted May 13, 2008 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroscorp     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Peri,

Thank you for the nice encouragement!

Sad to say till now I still have not figure out the synastry aspects.. hahaa.. ah well..

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posted May 15, 2008 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoLove     Edit/Delete Message
Ive read that a scorpio male and gem female is a great match; vice versa however.. not so much. Which is unfortunate, it proved to be true in my case once upon a time lol

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posted May 17, 2008 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroscorp     Edit/Delete Message
Just got back from the outing. She's totally different from a typical gemini.. i.e she's very very shy and reserved - doesn't talk much and my leo and sagi friend reckon that she's introverted.

I've tried communicating with her by asking her stuffs.. she had a few laughs here and there but i could tell that she was feeling a lil uncomfy. Well its the first time that we went out with my friends and seated at such close proximity.

The friends asked me to be patient cuz the gem prob needs more time to open up. Well at least she did say "i'll see you again" to me when she left. Could be that she's just friendly.

She's confusing me that gem..


How do I know if a gem is not interested?

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posted May 17, 2008 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
It's hard to tell if she's interested or not since she's shy. I can relate to her since I'm a very shy gemini when I first meet someone. Basically, during the conversation was she making eye contact with you. Did she look interested in what you were saying? If she did, then she at least likes you on some level; she finds you interesting. However, if her eyes were wandering while you were talking, then that's probably not a good sign.

Shy geminis are tougher to understand since you rarely know where you stand with them until they feel comfortable enough with you to be blunt. Like your friends said, just give her some time.


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