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LEXX
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posted May 23, 2008 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
I do not have much Pluto in my chart, but perhaps its placement means something?
I replied elsewhere thusly:
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I wonder if my being intersex is the result of my intended previous male body dying within minutes of being born. Unnamed in the legal sense, he was unofficially called Fate, named after a grandfather. I took the name Fayte for awhile
as a user name.
A year to the day and hour, and near to the minutes too as far as anyone knew, in the same room, in the same bed, with the same attendants, where my premmie "brother" was born, I was born.
He was not my brother, he was me!
That male body was mine! He died because my mother was left alone for just a few minutes, and gave fast birth whilst on the toilet. He nearly drowned and died a few minutes later.
I truly feel I was him. For some reason I was meant to be born into that family, or my mother would not let my soul move on, and her grief trapped me here causing me to be reincarnated thusly in the wrong body.

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sumthing_phishy
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posted May 23, 2008 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sumthing_phishy     Edit/Delete Message
my mother died when i was five.. i have moon conjunct saturn in the 8th house and i am scorpio rising.

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IXIEveryTimeIDie
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posted May 27, 2008 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IXIEveryTimeIDie     Edit/Delete Message
Keep this thread going! Its very interesting.

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Teresa
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posted May 28, 2008 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Teresa     Edit/Delete Message
Very interesting thread indeed!

I don't know if it means anything, but I have Pluto opposed my ascendant and my eight house cusp is in Scorpio. My mother had two miscarriages before I was born, she had to stay in bed for 5 months when she was pregnant of me and we both almost died when she gave birth to me (I was a premature, too).

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belgz
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posted May 28, 2008 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
ok after considering what everyone has written i think its merely just a coincidence and pluto has nothing to do with others dying. People die all the time. If i told you someone was going to die in your family in the next 1 year i would probably be right. I dont think it has anything to do with it.

I have lots of pluto aspects and pluto in first. Im happy with my life and who i am i wouldnt come back as anyone else either!

Its a coincidence and not everyone agreed because it wasnt the case for everyone.

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Sun: Cancer
Moon: Gemini
Mars: Cancer
Mercury: Cancer
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clockworkrose
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posted May 28, 2008 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for clockworkrose     Edit/Delete Message
^ok, that's your opinion, and you're entitled to it, but maybe others believe otherwise. thats your personal conclusion.

Pluto has to do with Death, and its not uncommon for Scorpios (suns, moons, ascendants) or Plutonians to have been confronted with death (as well as mental illness, abuse, ect) at an early age.

Like I always say, No aspect is definite. Not everyone with Mars-Pluto in their natal chart is going to be abused as a child... but some will be. Likewise, not everyone with Scorpio Rising is going to have someone die right before they were born, although its common enough.

and btw, someone in the family doesn't necessarily die every year. the last time someone died in my family was about 6 years ago.

This was just a theory of Donna Cunningham... I wanted to see if other people experienced anything similar.

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lovegoblin
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posted May 28, 2008 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovegoblin     Edit/Delete Message
pluto on the ascendant.
mother had miscarriage and death of
child before my birth. also, her father
died when i was six months old.

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clockworkrose
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posted May 28, 2008 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for clockworkrose     Edit/Delete Message
thanks lovegoblin. you've had a similar experience to mine.

Come to think of it, the 1st house generally represents our childhood. With Scorpio Rising and Pluto conjunct ASC, I was confronted with these issues (death, abuse, mental illness) at an early age. So maybe it applies to me more than others.

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lovegoblin
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posted May 28, 2008 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovegoblin     Edit/Delete Message
i think everyone should realize that no one really comes into a perfect situation in this life. once you realize that, the rest is easy.

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Lana29865
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posted May 30, 2008 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lana29865     Edit/Delete Message
Edited.

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