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Vintry
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posted May 31, 2008 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If Venus trine Ascendant aspect makes people physically beautiful, what does square and opposition do to them?

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted May 31, 2008 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hard to tell. its very hard to tell what aspects or placement manifest physical beauty. I mean when does aspects and placements take over and leave genes and biological factors behind. what happened to 2 beautiful people spawning beautiful children?

we have certainly seen that Venus conjunct the Ascendant makes a person beautiful. as far as other aspects.. I think its just a possibility.. there needs to be more study maybe we should look at people with venus asc aspects and see just exactly if they have any venusian qualities and if they are attractive.

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blue moon
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posted June 02, 2008 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I have Venus Conjunct Descendant and I am quite plain.

"Is he really your son, he is such a good-looking boy!" said someone to me last week. I just pointed to his dad by way of explantion.

Bloody cheek.

My brother has Venus Conjunct Ascendant. Good-looking lad, but beautiful might be stretching it a bit.

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Vintry
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posted June 02, 2008 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Outrageous!

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Astra
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posted June 02, 2008 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 2-year-old niece has venus opposition ascendant and people are always stunned by her beauty, so harsh venus-aspects aren't necessarily bad.

However, for the most part, I think physical appearance is determined by biology and astrology merely reflects biology.

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posted June 02, 2008 09:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have 2 close friends with venus conjunct asc. one has venus in aries and aries rising and the other has aqu rising with venus in aquarius and i dont find them beautiful. I think they act disgusting and are only attractive maybe to men for physical satisfaction. I think everyones perception on beautiful is different anyway.

Angelina jolie has venus in cancer on her ascendant n i dont think everyone finds her beautiful i find that she repulses me even though im cancer too with gemini moon and our charts are compatible


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ASC: Virgo

Sun: Cancer
Moon: Gemini
Mars: Cancer
Mercury: Cancer
Venus: Leo

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Unmoved
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posted June 02, 2008 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Asc sextile Venus, which is an aspect of Asc and Venus, but I am ordinary, so... yeah... I think it is more than that.

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posted June 02, 2008 11:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Angelina jolie has venus in cancer on her ascendant n i dont think everyone finds her beautiful i find that she repulses me even though im cancer too with gemini moon and our charts are compatible."

I thought I was alone in being repulsed by her. I mean she's supposed to be a siren. Then again, maybe the rest of her family look like Jabba the Hut and that Venus conj ASC really did work magic?

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Vintry
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posted June 03, 2008 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Angelina is generally considered beautiful. I didn't know she has that conjunction.. Public admires her! The FACE, it IS beautiful in my opinion.

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blue moon
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posted June 03, 2008 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry I can't watch anything with her in it, I feel like I have ODed on her image and persona and need a lifetime's break.

"I think they act disgusting and are only attractive maybe to men for physical satisfaction...."

You are onto something here, Belgz, I think what we are talking about here is sexual allure, as opposed to good looks.

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Mama Mia
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posted June 03, 2008 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus Conjunct Asc and I have been told that I am beautiful..However I have good looking parents and grandparents..My whole family is nice looking though..I lean towards it being in the genes..

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posted June 03, 2008 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fluke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oops, brain fart... (deleted post)
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posted June 03, 2008 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The weird thing about Angelina is that sometimes I am just amazed by her beauty and other times I think she has a damn ugly face. Her face seems to border on incredible beauty and hideousness.

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posted June 03, 2008 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus square ASC and I'm weird looking. People either think I'm attractive or ugly. I'm also not very photogenic. However, guys seem to be drawn to me. I've been called a "fox".

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posted June 03, 2008 09:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus Conj ASC in Virgo.
I wouldn't say I was beautiful but I do have very defined features (thick, high arched eyebrows, full lips, big eyes, high cheek bones.)
I don't really look a whole lot like either of my parents but I have my mom's smile, and my dad's tan skin and very dark hair.

Mercury, and Mars also conjunct my ascendant, and Neptune and Uranus trine it.

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posted June 03, 2008 09:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have venus conjunct asc as well and i'm also weird looking. i think i vascillate between good looking and just plain dorky. i do have very defined features though (large nose, fairly full lips, big eyes, arched eyebrows) and get comments and "looks". but i think i look manly half the time. haha. oh, and a rather pronounced bum chin.

hmm. maybe it just exaggerates features (esp in the case of angelina jolie)? there was some study once that the bigger features tend to be considered "more attractive" and usually movie stars have bigger heads and facial features in general..

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tifavirgo85
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posted June 03, 2008 09:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have venus conjunct my ascendant I have been told Im quite stunning and umm I do know antonio banderas has venus cojunct mars sqaure pluto on his ascendant and he is stunning...i think it matters what sign venus is in also...

If angelina has venus in cancer on the first house where the hell are her boobies?

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posted June 03, 2008 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol yea.. Ive heard something about big teeth also.. just make sure you take your kids off the nippled early.. they will get big teeth

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Vintry
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posted June 04, 2008 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tifavirgo,

"If angelina has venus in cancer on the first house where the hell are her boobies?"

Watch Gia, you'll see them :)

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lovegoblin
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posted June 04, 2008 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovegoblin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If your venus is trine/conjunct so's ascendant in synastry-you are supposed to find that person beautiful. This is a good topic. What if your venus was square or quincunx/opposite someone's ascendant?
Would their looks rub you the wrong way?

oh, by bf venus is square his moon and ascendant. i think he is beautiful.

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posted June 04, 2008 06:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would it mean if Venus was on your ascendant?

I have Venus in Capricorn but my Ascendant is Taurus.

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alvarella777
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posted June 04, 2008 06:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have VENUS SQUARE ASCENDANT - some books describe that aspect as such: "You care less about your own appearance than about your home and surroundings". I think this is rubbish;-).

But it leads to another thought: Maybe Venus doesn't have anything to do with your "looks" - they might be ruled by bilogical/genetic factors indeed - and apart from that: beauty lies in the eye of the beholder.

But Venus in aspect to ASC might say something on how much importance and "meaning" a person places to his/her looks - how much work or effort this person applies for improving his/her looks - how much he/she cares about her appearance.

So ... my theory would be: A person with a strong aspect from Venus to ASC does care a lot about his/her apperance - he/she is expressing her aesthetic tastes and values directly via his/her outer persona, or, to say it in an easier way: invests much into her clothing, make-up, hairdo etc. He/she would have a natural urge to "dress up" ...? Or: to "decorate"?

Whereas people without Venus-ASC-contacts might channel their aesthetic instincts into other domains, culture/art/sports - and just "care less" about their looks. (Which does NOT imply that they are "careless" in their appearance, of course! They can have a stunning natural beauty - they just don't spend so much effort on it or don't worry so much, maybe.)

With me, Venus SQUARING the ASC, is is a mixed bag - according to the "theory" above.

I think I am very good looking, haha. But this is a matter of taste, of course. What CAN be said about me objectively though, is this: I care a lot about STYLE in general - my appartment is decorated in the same style as my clothes are, I have been a "retro"-fan very much for decades now, my overall-style is quite coherent, I am very distinctive and selective - I don't need anything expensive (neither fashion nor furniture), but it has to be original/authentic ... difficult to describe. But people do recognize "my style" very often, say something like "that's a typical alvarella-skirt" or something like that.

I DO care a lot about my genuine/original "style" - and also about my female appearance - I care about looking feminine with an "innocent, but alluring" touch (very Virgo, my Venus is in Virgo), I despise anything too vulgar, would NEVER show myself topless, not even at beaches or at a private swimming pool, and so on an so forth. I hardly do anything with make-up! (Just a black eyeliner like in the Sixties and some powder and sometimes also lipstick, that's all.) And ... I can't stand men wearing flipflops, for instance. Totally unerotic - would kill all the attraction in an instance, haha. I can't stand men with long hair, etc,. etc.

So: Venus square ASC in my case means ... that sometimes I may exagerate with my aethetic tastes, I am really very disrciminate - and, in secret, I DO believe the individual "style" tells a lot about a person! It is like a book I am reading in.

Some friends say, that I overdo it with my critical "aestehtic" view ... that this might limit my perspective ... and some think that this is superficial.

Which is NOT AT ALL true. And it has NOTHING to do with how much money one spends on fashion or sth - I am NOT rich at all, I rather buy my clothing at very cheap thrift stores, etc., second hand, vintage pieces - very cheap!

The "superficial view": NOT TRUE!!! It has more to do with ... "the sociology of styles" for me (my Venus is not only in Virgo, but squaring my ASC from my lofty/intellectual 9th house as well). I really can READ the whole Style of a person like a language of signs, how he/she talks, what she's wearing, which music she prefers, etc... It TELLS me a lot - even though sometimes it is hard to describe to other people who don't have that instinct.

And: It does not mean that I "judge" people by their looks! I just get ... clues/impressions on their mental/emotional set-up by taking their "language of style" into account.

Really - there's a French socilogy-school (Pierre Bourdieu and others) which also deals with "The Aesthetics of every day life" - and Roland Barthes is a strong inllectual force here. Susan Sontag also has dealt with matters of STYLE (she wrote about the "Camp" for instance). THIS is what I am talking about, mainly.

So - that's VENUS SQUARE ASC from my perspective. ;-)

P.S.: OOOOOOKay - I CAN be snobbish in that regard ... haha. It's an effect of the square - a bit of exxageration sometimes...;-)

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posted June 04, 2008 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
alvarella777 - So you're not just good looking, you're very good-looking. Rock on! I'm impressed. I've never heard that said in 1st person.

added: yeah, your post was amusing.

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posted June 04, 2008 07:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, UNMOVED, I see you're a funny-kind-of-person too ...? Some Venus-Mercury-aspect with you? ;-)

Actually, I was not saying that I was astonishingly beautiful; actually, I made a joke on that. (Tried to apply some irony here, whish is not understood by all, and which might suffer due to my foreing-language-problem.)

But I am serious with what i REALLY was talking about - that's why I am replying: I really do believe that the VENUS-placement in a chart does give some clues on how much emphasis a person lays on (seemingly) "superficial" things, outer appearances, design, decoration and the likes.

Whether one sees these matters as "signs", as a kind of "language" and all. It was about STYLE - as an abstract word - NOT as a "judgement".

So uncomprehendable?

UNMOVED: What's your Venus about?

EDIT: P.S.: What I had written was about Venus in Virgo in 9th - making an aspect to ASC - and I mean it: I have sort of a "mental" approach to aesthetics. I'd be curious to learn more about other Venus-placements having contact to the ASC - and "how".

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posted June 04, 2008 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, I am not arguing against anything you said. Your tone was funny.

Venus Virgo in 11th here.

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