posted June 03, 2008 04:30 PM            

This thread was brought about by the earlier thread about the "significance of the 12th House".

I started reading up on this elusive 12th house, and something I kept coming across was that a person with their moon in the 12th House can signify that they did not receive motherly love in their younger years, whether due to a mother who was emotionally unavailable, or who passed away early. This person then has trouble expressing emotion due to the fact that this part of them was not able to be developed in childhood.

The reason for bringing this up in this new thread is the fact that my daughter has her moon in aquarius in her 12th house. (However, her 12th house ruler is Capricorn) Needless to say I am bit concerned, not because I am afraid of dying, but because I am afraid of what may happen to my little girl. I can see this "emotionally repressed moon in the 12th house" prediction playing out if something were to happen to me, because th one who gets custody is my ex-husband who is a very emotionally unavailable, repressed man, and honestly speaking does not know how to love. He jumps from woman to woman, looking and looking...desperate for love, only to fall into the same pattern, of no one ever being enough, then looks for a new person all over again. He is cold, detached, and selfish.

I am definitely not emotionally unavailable to my daughter, and neither is my own mother who is also a big part of my daughter's life right now. We shower her with so much love, and hugs and kisses, and always encourage her to express her feelings. She is so sweet, innocent, and very affectionate. I can't even imagine her being emotionally repressed. I get very afraid thinking about what would happen to her if anything were to happen to me. She would have to go live with my ex-husband and his mother in their cold, psycho world. She would be taken away from my family and my mother, who loves her so much.

So, my question to you kind Knowflakes is this......is it true??? Does having a moon in the 12th house signify an early passing of a mother? Does this position signify an under developed ability to expres emotions due to lack of (maternal) love in childhood. If I am alive, I can't imagine my daughter having a lack of love as I would do everything in my power to give her all the love that is in me.

To make matters even worse, I have always had a strange, nagging feeling I was not going to live very long. It's just something I feel inside me, that I'm not going to live and grow old like others. I always sensed that, but was never really concerned about it before, but now that I have my daughter in my life, I want to live and be there for her. Having her go to my ex-husband would be a fate worse than death for me.

posted June 03, 2008 04:43 PM            

The Moon is about emotional responses, not just the mother. There was a thread a while back about 12th house Moon people. I will dig it up if I can find it. The common link, as I recall, was being emotionally tuned into others, and deeply empathetic.

If this is the case your daughter might feel the need to switch off from this sometimes or she will get overpowered.

This is an interesting page on the Moon in 12th. An example they give is tennis champion Chris Evert, whose father, so it claims here, taught her to keep a poker face on court. She was actually praised for that on the BBC, but here in England emotional restrain (stiff upper lip) is held in high regard. That could also be another interpretation ~ she might be affectionate and emotionally expressive at home, but tuck her feelings away in different social settings. That isn't necessarily bad.

http://www.donmc.com/Moonin12th.htm

The advice of a lawyer should help with the rest. If you haven't made a will, maybe make one stating who you want looking after your child if anything happens to you. I've done it. It does help put your mind at rest a little. I've got ten ton of insurance, as well.

Think this is it:

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/017065.html

posted June 03, 2008 05:21 PM            

Saturn Squares the Moon which I think says a lot about his emotional responses. There's plenty of feeling there but it's not on open display. He's a very a stable person who can survive life's hard's knocks. He has also worked with some of the most disadvantaged people in society, and they didn't always sit on niceties. Being detached can be helpful.

He still talks about his Ma and only has good things to say. She was ill for a long time, so unusually for his age and background he is used to doing house work. He cooks, cleans, the lot. Just like his Da did ~ Saturn (the father) Squared the Moon (the mother). They were very happily married but she had bad health for many years. Not an easy situation but no bitterness or recrimination involved.

posted June 03, 2008 09:04 PM            

Blue Moon, I'm so sorry about your father's mother. Honestly, I was hoping there wouldn't be any cases or experiences of this being true, but I'm sure statistically speaking, there have to be some 12th house Aqua moons whose mothers did pass at an early age, just as I'm sure there are also cases of this happening to people with no planets in the 12th house at all.

Either way, I think I will take up an insurance plan just in case!

posted June 04, 2008 02:41 AM            

~ bear in mine he was a young man who had left home to find work, he wasn't a child left without a mother to raise him

~ the description of GeminiLover is very close to the man. In Aquarius makes him able to be objective ~ he is very good at giving impartial advice, not just for his family but in the community. So he has used it well, really.

posted June 04, 2008 02:49 AM            

Prince Harry has his Moon in the 3rd House:
http://www.astrotheme.fr/en/celestar/portrait.php?info=1&clef=5r3dP2uvsWhf

And Prince William in the 7th House:
http://www.astrotheme.fr/en/celestar/portrait.php?info=1&clef=233rFYDV7Mf6

About the most famous example I could think of for someone who missed his mother's love as a child, and his Moon is in the 11th house

posted June 05, 2008 05:09 PM            

And I don't believe it's indicative of dying at an early age either...my ex who also has Moon in the 12th was adopted so in effect he lost one mother and gained another one. But then while we were together I found his birth mother looking for him on the internet and they were reunited. So even though he techinically "lost" her, he eventually found her.

Having said that, Moon in the 12th doesn't necessarily mean mother issues.

As someone else mentioned, it denotes quite a lot of emotional sensitivity and a need for privacy in regards to feelings. It's also a highly karmic and spiritual placement so what one does with all that empathy and intense feeling is more to the point than anything.

I know someone else who has Moon in the 12th and has so much fear about being open and vulnerable that he refuses to take a risk and put himself out there. He would rather remain unconscious and emotionally evasive (still, at 32 with only one serious relationship under his belt) which is his choice. I think the lesson of the 12th house Moon is learning to trust the universe and find ways to put all the compassion and deep feeling to positive use. If the feelings/knowings/sensitivities are repressed, as is the instinct, then it can definitely create issues.

posted June 06, 2008 11:06 AM              

I totally agree with what Love said... my ex-husband was completely unable to speak about their feelings, emotions... imagine me being a cancer and loving to have deep and emotional conversations. In all the time we've been together (5 years, 2,5 of them married) only once I saw him really emotional... but he was drunk! Even that way it was strange... also in the day of our divorce I could see that he was really really bad... (
It's sad because he was a nice person but I was so unhappy with that lack of closeness that I had to go away...
Now I have this scorpio boyfriend and he's quite emotional... maybe too much!! ;o)

All this to say that I think that the moon in the 12th house is not easy... I think the best way it give people lots of space for them to want to come... and have subtile approaches...

posted April 09, 2012 09:01 AM            

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Originally posted by milyi:
moon in the eight house means losing he mother too early,in the twelfth it implies karmic connections(altough an eight house moon has the same imlication)

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Yes, I have an 8th house Pisces moon, and I lost my mother when I was 14.

If it matters, the ruler of my 12th house is in the 8th.