posted August 03, 2012 06:29 AM            

Taineberry,

Chiron/Vesta trine, the association I get now is that guy I was in love with, my Vesta exactly trine his Chiron (repeated in helio-long) but actually it was a Grand trine as I have a Pluto/Vesta trine natally.
With (the grand trine of) his SUN, my VENUS and our MARS/JUPITER conjunction it was even making a *David Star*.

My Chiron made a trine to his Uranus (also RSL).

I guess I sort of understand now why it didn't survive more than just that *in-love* stage.

posted August 05, 2012 12:40 PM            

Do you consider Vesta/Chiron to be a good romantic linkage if it is an enhancement and not afflicted?

The case I am looking at is an unafflicted grand trine ... with female Neptune trine female Chiron trine male vesta. How would you interpret that one?

posted August 07, 2012 08:26 AM            

Even if Vesta was already allowed in an RSL then I would have my worries about such a one-sidedness.

I would terribly prefer a Chiron-linkage vice versa (his Chiron) in one of the dimensions.
For example, I have two best friends and their Chiron is only making linkages to MY Planets but my Chiron does not make one linkage in any dimension to their planets.

posted August 09, 2012 05:49 PM            

I have used several relationships to study chiron and linkages all within their designated orbs. There is a lot of truth to what I see.

One example: My parents married for 40 years have 5 Chiron linkages just in Geocentric aspects and parallels within orb. I am sure their are more in Heliocentric and in their meeting chart and marriage chart.

But my husband and I have been married since 2008. Been together since 2005. We seem to have mostly negative chiron Magi linkages and very few positive linkages. So magi reason would stand that we would never have gotten married OR we'd be very unhappy together right??? But we are super inlove and have quite a "magical" relationship full of love and chemistry. So what am I missing if you follow their thinking??? What gives here? I just don't get it.

In CAC Geo all I see is:
Uranus // Chiron
Unanus opposed chiron
Chiron conjunct Chiron (not really an aspect)
Chiron Conjunct IC (don't even know if they consider that anything special)
Saturn // Venus (not a good one to have)
Venus trine Jupiter (our most exact aspect)
Moon trine Pluto

Helio CAC:
Venus square Chiron
Venus Opposed Chiron
Saturn square Chiron
Chiron opposed Uranus
Venus//Juno (I think this is correct with .26)
Saturn//Chiron

I am trying to truly compile all of our Magi aspects through the CAC, heliocentric, parallels etc all within their designated orbs. I'm not sure I'm doing it accurately.

I have their basic software with a romantic interpretations, I also have Solar Fire and use Astro.com. Sometimes the delineations are different too. This makes it harder to analyze.

Anyone interested in helping me see what I might be missing? midpoints? The first date chart? Marriage chart?

I appreciate your dialogue!

posted August 09, 2012 07:58 PM            

Well it's always nice to meet someone interested in MAGI.

Since I have to see it with my own eyes, would it be possible to post the "additional tables" of GEO-PARTNER COMPARISON (to start with) from astro.com here?
I have no idea if that's possible but I thought it would be nice to take your case as a learning experience for all.

(ps, it's better to delete the last two posts for more clearness)

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A TEST example (to see if it works)

So, It Works! It took a while as I didn't know how to upload a PDF-file to Photobucket.

This is only GEO but ofcourse it's also possible for HELIO to do the same thing.

posted August 13, 2012 05:00 PM            

I also tried to delete my multiple same posts but it said an administrator must do it...hmmmm... sorry about that!

As for your example, that is exactly what I'm talking about that there are a lot of examples that do indicated truth to it. They have significant linkages!

However, I do think the whole picture must be looked at that is not just the Magi picture.

But here is our info... take a look at both the helio and geo...

CRC (me)
8/29/74
Santa Barbara, CA
4:16pm

Husband
6/7/75
Goleta, CA
2:02am

posted August 15, 2012 06:13 AM            

Ok, Forget the converting for a moment now.

Maybe it's THIS;

Go back to your 'CLEAR pic' which is somewhere stored on your pc in a map.

Ok, are you in that map now?

Do NOT open that specific pic! (or the characters which refer to the pic)
instead,
~ go with your mouse to that pic and click on the RIGHT mouse button and you will see (I may hope!) something like: "OPEN this with....." and you get a few choices. You choose: "internet explorer" ... (open it in there)

So, now you have to store your pic again from internet-explorer ...

The difference after you stored it again is now that you see an 'internet explorer- symbol' in your stored pic.

posted August 16, 2012 07:22 AM            

But I'm out of balance at the moment...

That guy I was talking about in post 823 (above, answering taineberry) .. it's terrible but ...

I LIKE HIM! (yesterday blabla)

With all those heartbreak-clashes and I didn't even mention the shared "WORLD WAR CLASH" in my post...

CRC, I have a GREAT idea...

Let's collect happy couples who do share at least more than ONE Heartbreak-clash okay?!
I'm even in the mood to go to a graveyard and list all the couples burried together..

posted August 16, 2012 04:03 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by mir:
Well my asc./merc virgo are right on your Sun so I feel ya!; ))

But I'm out of balance at the moment...

That guy I was talking about in post 823 (above, answering taineberry) .. it's terrible but ...

I LIKE HIM! (yesterday blabla)

With all those heartbreak-clashes and I didn't even mention the shared "WORLD WAR CLASH" in my post...

CRC, I have a GREAT idea...

Let's collect happy couples who do share at least more than ONE Heartbreak-clash okay?!
I'm even in the mood to go to a graveyard and list all the couples burried together..

Are you in or are you out? Well I like to be encouraged

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I'm in! ;-)

Meanwhile, I'm trying to figure out my SolarFire program because in that I have the grids that show paralles and aspects very easily. So if I can do that...it will be a piece of cake... (Maybe I shouldn't say that considering nothing with this has been a piece of cake so far! lol!)

posted August 17, 2012 11:13 AM            

You won't believe me...

At THIS moment I'm at the EXACT PEAK of my dec. heartbreak-transit.

This is a verry interesting site to see at-a-glance the speed and course of the Outer planets in the declinations.. I just clicked on it and VOILA, my natal Chiron is at 7'28 N and T. Saturn - as you see - is exactly at 7'28 S !
http://www.moontracks.com/planet-declinations.html

posted August 18, 2012 09:33 AM            

His Saturn quincunx to her Chiron.

In both dimensions his Saturn is also making a square to her Sun, so this would all make it worse.

**

Prince Charles, (like father, like son) also being the mighty Saturn, makes a strong H-B clash with Camilla's Chiron in Geo-dec.
There's only one but in their Helio-long there's a Nucleair clash in which it's also HIS Saturn hm..

posted August 20, 2012 10:18 PM            

Anyway, so I've been on the Magi site recently where they talk about their chart in both Helio and Geo... So they have heart break and cindarella linkages.

I also re-visited my husbands and my Helio aspects and discovered we have the following Chiron positive aspects. (I gave some of our negatives above.)

Earth Parallel Chiron
Mars Parellel Chiron
Neptune Parallel Chiron
Jupiter contra parallel Chiron (him to me)
Jupiter contra parallel Chiron (me to him)
Mars contra parallel Chiron

Venus contra parallel Jupiter
Venus parallel Neptune
Venus contra parallel Mars
Venus parallel Juno

And I haven't even adressed the midpoints either.

posted August 21, 2012 07:26 AM            

Orb-expansion here (for ONE planet as always) would be 0,1 if in a 3-planet configuration which equals only 6" (0,6) minutes.

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Orb in Geo-dec. = 1,2 (= 1,12)

posted August 21, 2012 11:30 AM            

Geo synastry - 3'
declinations - 1.2'

posted August 21, 2012 11:36 AM            

My husband in Helio have:
Mars contra parallel venus at 0.12
Venus parallel Juno at 0.25
Jupiter contra parallel Chiron 0.24

How do you convert the above to see if it in within orb???

posted August 22, 2012 05:52 AM            

1,2 = 1,0 + 0,2 .. right?

Well 1,0 = ONE degree (or: 60 minutes!)

So we ONLY have to work out "0,2".

So the question would be: how many minutes is 0,2?

- 0,1 = 0,6
- 0,2 = 0,12
- 0,3 = 0,18
- 0,4 = 0,24
- 0,5 = 0,30
- 0,6 = 0,36
- 0,7 = 0,42
- 0,8 = 0,48
- 0,9 = 0.54
- 0,10 = 0,60 (but ofcourse we don't say 0,10 or 0,60 that's just 1 or 1,0!)

(so from a decimal system you multiply by 6 to get minutes, and from the minutes divide by 6 to get decimals)

So, 1,2 = 1,12 (one degr. + 12 min.)

quote:

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Mars contra parallel venus at 0.12
Venus parallel Juno at 0.25
Jupiter contra parallel Chiron 0.24

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posted August 23, 2012 02:10 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by mir:
**Ok, so if .3 actually equals .18 then what does 1.2 equal???**

1,2 = 1,0 + 0,2 .. right?

Well 1,0 = ONE degree (or: 60 minutes!)

So we ONLY have to work out "0,2".

So the question would be: how many minutes is 0,2?

- 0,1 = 0,6
- 0,2 = 0,12
- 0,3 = 0,18
- 0,4 = 0,24
- 0,5 = 0,30
- 0,6 = 0,36
- 0,7 = 0,42
- 0,8 = 0,48
- 0,9 = 0.54
- 0,10 = 0,60 (but ofcourse we don't say 0,10 or 0,60 that's just 1 or 1,0!)

(so from a decimal system you multiply by 6 to get minutes, and from the minutes divide by 6 to get decimals)

So, 1,2 = 1,12 (one degr. + 12 min.)

So, convert these to decimals and tell me if it's within orb (you know the orbs)

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So if I convert the above aspects my husband and I have in helio it would be:
Mars contra parallel venus at 0.12 = 0.02 Yes within orb
Venus parallel Juno at 0.25 = 0.04 Yes within orb
Jupiter contra parallel Chiron 0.24 = 0.04 Yes within orb