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heart cakes
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posted June 04, 2008 06:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i hear of magical linkages, cinderella linkages, etc etc.. but sofar i've never read a comprehensive, simplified list. is there one out there? and one to the "rules" and the "heart break" stuff and all that? oh and the transits?

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posted June 04, 2008 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
heart cakes - when I read the title I begun to chuckle because I have pretty much given up on Magi Astrology. So, if someone can simplify it, I would be grateful too. I am sure it's my brain and not them but the info seems to lack structure.

I almost just posted the word(s), "G'Luck!"

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posted June 04, 2008 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will but l can't tonight - i just posted an epic on my thread and i'm bushed.

I know a lot about MAGI so l can tell ALL tomorrow night

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posted June 04, 2008 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THEY ONLY MAKE IT CONFUSING BECAUSE THEY WANT YOU TO BUY THEIR $300 BOOK!!!!

sorry, but i think magi astrology is a scam

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posted June 04, 2008 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well about 85% of the books contents are free online

just type in magi+minibooks LOL

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posted June 04, 2008 09:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks lara! i'll google it and see if i can find some LISTS! i need LISTS. my saturn/NN in virgo demands it. otherwise i just get overwhelmed.

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posted June 05, 2008 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok so Magi use linkages and aspects. In synastry they are linkages, in transits they are aspects.

Magi uses the following orbs -

Geo synastry - 3'
declinations - 1.2'

Helio synastry - 3'
declination - 0.3'

SEXUAL LINKAGES

venus-pluto
mars-pluto
venus-mars
chiron-juno = emotional involvement
venus-juno = non committal relationship/affairs
venus-uranus = sex without commitment

mars-chiron = marital sexual linkage
sun-chiron = trust linkage
venus-jupiter = loyal linkage
sun-venus = cupid linkage
chiron-uranus = reluctance to marry

ROMANCE ASPECTS/CINDERELLA'S
chiron-venus = MAGICAL LINKAGE / CINDERELLA
chiron-neptune = LIFETIME LINKAGE / CINDERELLA
venus-neptune = romance linkage
chiron - jupiter = CINDERELLA
chiron-uranus = CINDERELLA business/fame linkage
chiron-pluto = CINDERELLA


BAD TRANSITS (aspects of 90'/150'/180'/contra-parallel)

chiron-saturn = HEARTBREAK TRANSIT
saturn-jupiter = NUCLEAR transit
saturn-neptune = saturn clash

BAD LINKAGES (aspects of 90'/150'/180'/contra-parallel)
saturn-jupiter = nuclear clash
saturn-chiron = nuclear clash

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posted June 05, 2008 02:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks so much lara! is that all of them? woohoo, research time!!

hey unmoved- don't give up! now we have lists!!

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posted June 05, 2008 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no it's not all of them! It's a lot of them though.. you rally need to read MAGI book i and ii.

They are found on the magiastrology.com website

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posted June 05, 2008 02:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara,

I`m pretty sure the Magi allow 3° orb in geo and helio in the longitudes, and even up to 4°, if it`s part of planetary geometry like a Grand trine for example.


And regardint the sexual linkages, there are also:

Juno-Mars
Juno-Pluto

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posted June 05, 2008 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Theres a program that calculates your magi aspects. its called astro 123

http://www.astrowin.org/astro123.htm

I however dont know about the accuracy. while other people have told me there was fine. this program changes my house positions and give me a different ascendant. so as far as house position I dont think its accurate and Im going to email the guy. once you get to the link scroll down and dowload the program. you need your birth info as well as timezone and long. and lat. degrees. it gives you all types of calculations.

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posted June 05, 2008 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I`m pretty sure the Magi allow 3° orb in geo and helio in the longitudes, and even up to 4°, if it`s part of planetary geometry like a Grand trine for example


nope. They allow 1.2 and 0.3 in declinations... trust me, i'm a member and have all their software etc.

I have been studying magi for about 2 years now

If you have a RSL (romantic super linkage) one of the aspect can be 4deg... ONE OF THEM BUT one of the (0'/150'120) aspects MUST also be CHIRON.


HEHE i realized l made a mistake through tiredness... yeah, in normal synastry GEO/HELIO it's 3 degrees... declinations are 1.2 and 0.3

sorry

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posted June 05, 2008 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dunno, though I respect them and enjoy their reports, I don't buy their Chiron vs Juno theories.

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Virgo Asc & Mars
Gemini Sun
Libra Moon (conjunct Pluto 0º in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury
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Lara,

I`m not a member, but have been studying Magi a bit for about 2 years, too.

SEems, we have developed an interest there at the same time.

I`m a bit torn concerning my perception of Magi though; one time I am completely enhusiastic about it, the next I get really annoyed and just don`t buy anything of it. Some kind of love-hate-relationship towards Magi I think.

But I love their take on planetary geometry.

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SOME MAGI ASPECTS

Sun-Moon linkage: It can make people feel "as if soulmates".

Sun-Venus linkage: Cupid link. In the conjunction Venus does the loving. This creates a high level of romantic interest and instant intimacy, but if Chiron is a spectator it is unlikely to sustain a relationship.

Sun-Mars linkage: Mars does not work very well with the Sun – even with respect to linkages - due to the Mars natural ability and predominance for his natural inclinations at disturbing the peace. The relationship brings attraction, but will also be subject to turmoil due to the very essence and nature of Mars itself. So this linkage gives attraction, but right along side it, also comes the persistent arguments and volatility.

Sun trine Jupiter: Very good for both individuals, particularly the Sun Person. the Jupiter person looks at the Sun person with rose-colored glasses, that filter out the faults and mistakes of the Sun person, and provides the ability to forgive them for almost anything.

Sun parallel Jupiter: Linkage of forgiveness.

Sun-Saturn clash: Bitter clash. Magi astrology says: "The most likely result of this Clash is that the Saturn person will have the upper hand in your relationship and will be in the driver's seat in some important parts of your life."

Sun parallel Uranus: Another linkage that is great for excitement, but could be very problematic in a committed relationship. Interestingly enough, this linkage is found in many famous couples, and is noted for adding worldwide fame to the relationship. Or infamy. Uranus is all about adventure, freedom, independence, and the urge for all, and involves implementing the changes necessary to bring about these conditions.

Sun quincunx Neptune: ROMANTIC LINKAGE. This linkage creates a karmic bond and the feeling that you were close to this person in a previous life. It is also indicative of immediate attraction on a non-sexual level. The effects of this linkage are enduring and help to build a smooth and peaceful relationship. As a result, this linkage is one of the best linkages at improving compatibility. But no linkages are as powerful as Chiron Linkages at creating the mystical bond of love.

Sun-Pluto linkage: Very obsessive since Pluto is ruler of obsessions. Called the "obsession-linkage", it can intensify sexual attraction, if there are other sexual linkages.

Sun-Pluto square: Powerplays of the worst kind indicated.

Sun-Chiron linkage: Trust link. Chiron trusts the Sun.

Sun-Chiron square: the Sun-Chiron square as the WRONG PERSON CLASH. The reason this Clash has this name is that this Clash will instill into the couple the nagging feeling that they are each with the wrong person. Because Chiron is the arrow that points to your soulmate, the WRONG PERSON CLASH is a sign that Chiron is pointing to another person. In other words, the Wrong Person Clash creates inner doubt about a relationship.

Moon-Venus-linkage: Increases the emotional compatibility, indicating two people who deeply care for each other.

Moon-Mars-linkage: A very strong linkage. It combines sexual attraction with romantic attachment, and it’s power is just below a Chiron-Mars or sexual linkage.

Moon conjunct Jupiter: FORGIVENESS LINKAGE. This is a sign of mutual forgiveness. The two of you usually give each other the benefit of the doubt. You are most likely to be supportive of this person. This is a very beneficial linkage between friends. Lovers with this linkage can be good friends as well as unselfish lovers. Helps the two of you have a peaceful and blessed relationship.

Moon-Chiron linkage: Moon cares deeply about Chiron, and wants to believe in them and nurture them.

Mercury-Saturn parallel: Saturn holds the controls and has the ability to make Mercury doubt their own views, and hold interference over Mercury’s better judgements. But Mercury is unable to sway Saturn’s opinions, and resulting in regular exchanges of miscommunications and limited conversations with one another.

Mercury-Neptune linkage: Empathy linkage. Neptune wants to believe Mercury’s words.

Mercury trine Chiron: UNDERSTANDING LINKAGE. Generally, the two of you are on the same wavelength, you enjoy talking to each other, and are of like minds. So much so that sometimes, words are not necessary. The two of you have intuitive mutual understanding and it does not require real effort for either of you to make yourself clear to each other. Even though this linkage does not directly enhance sexual attraction, this linkage makes sex more fulfilling because you can both sense each other's desires. This is a very significant linkage and greatly helps your relationship.

Venus square Venus: Brings an oddity to the union by virtue of the fact that their combined, desires, tastes, and sense of humor are at increasing odds with one another’s as time goes on – bringing continuity of increased incompatibility to their union.

Venus-Mars linkage: Sexual linkage.

Venus-Jupiter linkage: Loyalty linkage.

Venus trine Jupiter: LOYALTY LINKAGE. PEACE LINKAGE. This linkage is found more often in lifelong married couples than any other linkage except for Chiron Linkages and Sexual Linkages. This helps to build a mutually forgiving relationship and the highest degree of harmony between two persons. Also greatly enhances loyalty and friendship. Jupiter's presence in this linkage reduces the stress level of this relationship and elevates both of your desires for peace and forgiveness between you. When arguments do arise, they will be settled pretty quickly or overlooked and forgotten. This linkage also raises the level of honesty and fairness in this relationship. Although this linkage has no direct effect on romance and love, all of the attributes of this linkage are very helpful to any love relationship and enhances compatibility so much that this is the number one linkage in Compatibility Rating.

Venus parallel Jupiter: Jupiter contributes the ability to reduce the stress levels in the relationship, and this linkage gives a mutual desire for peace. Forgiveness would quickly settle most disagreements.

Venus-Uranus in the natal chart: Heartbreaker Aspect

Venus parallel Uranus: So-called “swinger” linkages. It could make for an on-off relationship. They both have a need for change and excitement, maybe Uranus more than Venus.

Venus-Neptune clash: Here today, gone tomorrow. This person can be a costly experience for you. This is a bad clash and can result in bitterness between two people. This clash is often a sign of a very financially costly, and emotionally draining, relationship. Very little that a couple do together works out.

Venus-Neptune linkage: Romance link. Long-term attraction and attachment.
Venus-Neptune contraparallel: ROMANCE LINKAGE. This is one of the most powerful Romance Linkages and is often symbolic of an enduring romance. In terms of creating lifelong relationships, this is the best Linkage other than the Cinderella Linkages. This great linkage bestows and sustains a very harmonious, peaceful, serene and romantic union. It also improves the quality of sex between the two of you and even helps the two of you succeed and make money in what you do together.

Venus-Pluto linkage: Sexual linkage. The most long-lasting of them. The conjunction can mean obsession, especially of the Venus person.

Venus-Pluto clash: Attraction which disintegrates over time?

Venus-Chiron linkage: Marital linkage. Almost guarantees intimacy between a man and a woman.

Venus Chiron square: Classic Schism. Another difficult non-Saturn aspect in this wedding chart is the Venus Square Chiron. This Clash creates a Classic Schism. In "Love and Money" we said "This is a relationship breaker and must be avoided in a marriage chart under any circumstances; this activation creates a persistent barrier between the activated persons on most issues, especially family matters"

Venus-Chiron Clash (including square): Impossible dream clash. The Impossible Dream Clash usually is a sign of attraction between two persons who are ultimately incompatible BUT is not a nasty Clash. This is perhaps the most unique Clash and is not like any other Clash. Most Clashes are not signs of attraction although with some Clashes, there can be attraction that fades. But in the case of the Venus-Chiron Clash, it actually is a sign of lifelong attraction and at the same time it is also a sign of incompatibility. Two persons who form this Clash are normally attracted to each other but unlikely to get married.

Venus-Juno linkage: Ultimate sexual linkage.

Mars-Saturn square: Classic schism. Bring out the worst in each other. Mutual intolerance.

Mars-Uranus conjunction or parallel in a man’s natal chart: Heartbreaker aspect. This is a Sexual Aspect, as well as often indicating a man who desires changes of sexual partners.

Mars parallel Uranus: So-called “swinger” linkages. It could make for an on-off relationship. They both have a need for change and excitement, maybe Uranus more than Mars.

Mars Uranus linkage: Sex Buddy linkage, without romantic attachments.

Mars-Neptune clash: The Mars square Neptune aspect is one the nastiest aspects you can have in a wedding chart. Magi says: "This is the most warlike and turbulent aspect you can have in an Electional chart. You do not want it. Avoid at all costs unless you want to go to bed in a suit of armor. The hallmark of marriages with this aspect is a divorce proceeding characterized by unrelenting vengeance that is blown way out of proportion."

Mars-Pluto linkage: Sexual linkage. The conjunction can mean obsession, especially by the Mars person. This linkage creates high level intensity.

Mars-Chiron linkage: Marital sexual linkage.

Mars-Chiron clash: Lust hate clash. Of all the interaspects, the LUST HATE CLASH one is most likely to create a love hate relationship, or should we say lust hate relationship. This creates a high degree of sexual attraction, but it comes at the price of incompatibility.

Mars-Juno linkage: Sexual linkage.

Jupiter contra-parallel Saturn: Nuclear clash. Magi’s have always contended, this is the worst of all activations with respect to relationship compatibility. What does this mean? It is aptly and eerily foretelling that just about everything that they attempt as a couple, to assist in improving their relationship compatibility and trust, would ultimately end in failure, deception, and revenge. The danger is that it gives a binding relationship in spite of the difficulties present, and gives a relationship filled with accusations and finger-pointing, in addition to surmounting stresses, broken promises, and destruction. It fills one with regrets and disdain at having ever met this person in the first place, and clearly WARNS that they must gather up enough strength to make the break, before it is too late. At it worst, it is clearly a destructive expansion of what is harmful – to include personal annihilation.

Jupiter-Saturn clash: Nuclear clash. The Nuclear Clash also is deceiving in that it can initially cause attraction, and then its effect changes to distaste for each other and open hostility.

Jupiter-Uranus clash (including a Contra-Parallel and Quincunx): Like a nuclear clash.

Jupiter-Neptune linkage: The long-term bond.

Jupiter parallel Pluto: GOLDEN LINKAGE. The two of you should be able to work together fabulously well to attain shared dreams. From the money perspective, the power of this linkage is so potent that it has a nearly mystical quality. This linkage is also helpful in boosting sexual attraction and compatibility. The one area that this linkage does not improve directly is romance and therefore it does not have any direct effect on love and marriage. On the other hand, when two persons make good money and have good sex together, they are much more likely to stay together. In this sense, this Golden Linkage does have an effect on a love union.

Jupiter-Chiron linkage: This is a romance linkage,a golden linkage,and also a Cinderella linkage. Except for the Venus-Chiron linkage,it is the most beneficial and powerful linkage that you can have with anyone.

Jupiter parallel Midheaven: Jupiter parallel Midheaven gives a one-sided linkage that is not at all mutual, putting the Midheaven person on the right side of Jupiter’s trust. Jupiter has implicit trust in the Midheaven person, and has the utmost confidence in their morality - giving them the benefit of the doubt.

Saturn bonds: Saturn Bonds are signs of Captivation and dominance.

Saturn clashes: Saturn Clashes are signs of DETACHMENT and ANTAGONISM, as well as INCOMPATIBILITY. Saturn Clashes often have the ability to bind a couple together until they are most vulnerable. A Saturn Clash has a very different effect than a linkage. Saturn Clashes are highly accurate astrological warnings that two persons will have a tumultuous relationship, or that at least one of the persons' lives will be greatly disrupted by their relationship.

Saturn parallel Saturn: Results in a basic energy of the relationship that involves a constant tripping over one another, while impeding each other’s progress in an attempt to gain control over one another, and constantly undoing what the other has purposefully done.

Saturn-Neptune linkages: Some of the characteristics of this linkage are that Neptune will feel an unusually high degree of loyalty toward Saturn and will fail to see all of their faults. It is even possible for Saturn to be a corrupting influence on Neptune. Unless there is Saturn Balance between two people, this linkage can result in a one-sided relationship where Neptune would be a controlled person unable to exercise their own free will.

Saturn-Neptune conjunction: Ball and chain link. A sign of Saturn’s complete control over Neptune.

Saturn-Neptune square: Poorhouse clash.

Saturn-Pluto Clash: This clash is particularly bad. Magi gives the following advice for any couple that has the Saturn-Pluto Clash: "….Under no circumstances should you proceed with this relationship unless the two of you also have Romantic Super Linkages….." One reason the Saturn-Pluto Clash is such a problem is that it is a highly reliable sign that one or both of the two persons can become belligerent towards the other. The person that is most likely to develop the antagonism is the Saturn Person.

Saturn-Chiron clash: Heartbreak clash. The Heartbreak Clash is nasty because it is actually deceptive and can be devastating. At first it binds two people together and then ultimately breaks them up, often after both sides thought they were in love. The Heartbreak Clash is insidious. It brings two people together and pushes them into falling in love or thinking they are in love - and then the Heartbreak Clash breaks their hearts. You can only have a broken heart if you think you are in love. Usually, the heartbreak results from a breakup between the man and woman. But there are plenty of ways to break hearts. Sometimes, the worse heartbreak is by keeping a couple together in an unfulfilled relationship and thus preventing both persons from finding someone else to love and becoming truly happy. We should never marry anyone who forms a Heartbreak Clash with us.

Saturn contra-parallel Juno: SATURN CLASH. Quite often, this clash makes you disinterested in this person - you just don't feel the right chemistry. This is a good thing because you would not want to get involved with anyone whose Saturn clashes with your natal Juno.

Saturn-Chiron midpoint making a Turbulent Angle with another person's natal Chiron: A Heartbreak Clash and it is a reliable astrological sign that the Saturn-Chiron person can inflict heartbreak on the other person.

Saturn-Chiron midpoint conjunct natal planet: Saturn bond of dominance.

Uranus-Chiron aspects in the natal chart: The combination of Chiron and Uranus creates a reluctance to marry. Those born with Chiron-Uranus aspects prefer independence (Uranus) in their children-oriented relationships (Chiron), which means they prefer to not marry.

Uranus-Chiron clash: Infidelity clash. This clash can be a problem if you are contemplating a serious relationship with this person. When a couple has this Clash, the chances of infidelity are increased because of the adventurous and independent nature of Uranus. You should also beware of having even just an affair with this person. If you are married or committed, but are looking for a fling, this person is not the one. This Clash often gives this person both the ability and the desire to bring turmoil into whatever other relationship you already have.

Chiron/Uranus Linkage: This is the only Chiron Linkage that does NOT improve the chances of two persons getting married. In Magi Astrology, it is referred to as the Fluctuating Linkage. The interpretation for the Chiron/Uranus linkage includes: "FLUCTUATING RELATIONSHIP. Because of Uranus' love for change, excitement and experimentation, this linkage can be a sign that one or both of you will find it difficult to commit to a serious relationship with each other. This is because with this linkage, one or both of your feelings for each other tend to fluctuate. If this is the only Chiron Linkage between the two of you, the result is usually an eventual breakup…."

Uranus-Juno linkage in natal chart: This is not good for a committed relationship - such as marriage. Juno-Uranus gives a drive for sexual excitement and thrill seeking, along with a frequent need for changing sexual partners for the sole sake of experiencing something new and unconventional. This is a self-serving excitement with respect to sexual liaisons, cheating, one night stands, irresponsibility, and selfishness. Changing sexual partners for the sake of experiencing a new sense of adventure drives one to adultery and affairs.

Neptune-Chiron linkage: Lifetime link, and a Cinderella linkage. This is one of the linkages that creates very lasting relationships. This also a romance linkage and the third most common linkage among married couples, but it is also good for lifelong friendships.

Neptune-Juno linkage: Longterm mistress linkage.

Neptune-Midheaven clash: Creative lies of the Midheaven silently whispering in Neptune’s ears makes Neptune conflicted about what the truth is.

Pluto-Chiron linkage: Cinderella linkage.

Chiron contra-parallel Juno in natal chart: Gives powerful sex appeal.

Chiron-Juno Linkage: Long-Term partners Linkage. Normally, a linkage formed with Juno results in a Juno Linkage and creates attraction based on some kind of dream that is just an illusion about your relationship and each other. In other words, a Juno Linkage casts a Juno Spell over you. Fortunately, sooner or later during good transits, the Juno Spell can be broken and you wake up from the spell; when you do, the attraction you felt fizzles out and you want out of the relationship.

But this linkage is not that way.
This is not a Juno Linkage but this is a Chiron Linkage because Chiron overpowers Juno's bewitching power. Like most Juno Linkages, this Chiron Linkage does create sexual attraction and need, but unlike Juno Linkages, the attraction and need last a lifetime. You will feel like you are under a Juno Spell but it is different because this linkage comes with romantic attraction that also lasts a lifetime. For both these reasons, this is the one of the most powerful linkages at creating lifelong relationships.
Like Juno Linkages, this linkage also fosters mutual dreams and mutual illusions - but in this case, they just about never die, and therefore help the two of you to stay together even in the worst of times.
If the two of you also have other Chiron Linkages, and you are both each other's type, or not too far from it, then you could fall in love and the chances are very high you will have a very long-term relationship.
Even if you are not each other's type, the romantic and sexual attraction and the dreams and illusions this linkage produces can help the two of you to overlook problems as well as each other's shortcomings, and therefore you may still end up in love. However, this is just one single Chiron Linkage and it is not all the two of you need and unless you also have a Romantic Super Linkage or great Grand Trines, your relationship will be just about always a challenge - because relationships founded on Juno are always a challenge.

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posted June 05, 2008 03:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looking at my synastry with P in Geo and HElio we have:

Romance linkages / Cinderella linkages:

his Chiron conjunct my Jupiter
his Chiron quinkunx my Pluto

his Chiron quinkunx my Pluto
my Chiron contraparallel his Venus
my Chiron contraparallel his Jupiter


my Venus contraparallel his Neptune


Sexual linkages:

my Chiron parallel his Juno
his Chiron contraparallel my Juno

my Venus trine his Pluto
his Venus quinkunx my Mars
his Venus contraprallel my Pluto

my Venus parallel his Mars
my Juno conjunct his Mars
his Juno trine my Pluto


It`s almost ridiculous how many sexual linkages there are.
On top of that most of them c ombine to planetary geometry.

My Venus: 06° Capricorn
my Mars: 05° Sagittarius
his Venus: 04° Taurus
his Pluto: 08° Virgo


So there is a GRand trine, of Venus, Venus and Pluto; actually it`s a Kite, because his Chiron is exactly opposing his Pluto and sextiles his Venus and my Venus.


And then there is a mystical triangle of:
my Mars quinkunx his Venus and squares his Pluto.
(of course my Venus is also part of this, as it is semisextile my own Mars, and trines both his Venus and Pluto).


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posted June 05, 2008 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara - Thank you so much. I needed lists too. Now I can start somewhere. Lovely!

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posted June 05, 2008 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are welcome Unmoved


Nice aspects DD... just remember that Magi says too many sexual linkages can be too much!!!!!


Check out the synastry of me and my b/f (geo and helio combined)

We both have in our natal charts, Super Sexual Juno aspects and l have 2 cinderella's *sigh*


SYNASTRY
1. my chiron trine his neptune - lifetime linkage/cinderella
(my chiron/venus conjunct trine his neptune gives Romantic Super Linkage)
2. his chiron parallel my venus - magical cinderella
3. my chiron parallel his venus - magical cinderella
4. my chiron quincunx his jupiter - cinderella
5. my chiron trine his neptune - lifetime linkage/cinderella
6. my chiron opposing his venus - magical cinderella
7. his chiron quincunx my jupiter - cinderella
8. his chiron quincunx my juno - long-term partners linkage
9. my chiron trine his neptune - lifetime linkage/cinderella
(this linkage also becomes a Romantic Super Linkage by my chiron/venus conjunct trining his neptune)

A romantic mystical triangle is also formed in Geo chart with my chiron/venus conjunct trine his neptune square my jupiter and a YOD with chiron/venus trine neptune sextile venus quincunx chiron/venus.

So, we have:
3 lifetime cinderella linkages
3 chiron/venus magical linkages
8 cinderella's
1 long-term partners linkage


GEO SEXUAL LINKAGES:
mars parallel mars
mars trine pluto

HELIO SEXUAL LINKAGES:
mars parallel pluto
mars square pluto
mars parallel venus
chiron quincunx juno - long-term partners link

The 8 cinderella linkages say it all though *sigh*

plus we both had cinderella transits the day we met...

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posted June 05, 2008 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have quite a few of the ones first listed in my natal. but I think I understand the chiron juno thing.. is this why I have trouble seperating love from sex?

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Lara,

awesome synastry you have, I LOVE your romantic super aspect with your boyfriend.

Regarding the sexual overflow in the synastry between P and me, well, when I saw it for the first time, I really fell from my chair, because I was laughing so hard. After all he is gay. lol

Well, from a romantic Magi standpoint of view, my synastry with that singer I met two weeks ago, might be a bit better.

We have (in geo and helio):

my Chiron exactly trine his Neptune
his Chiron trine my Venus (3,5°, but part of a RSL - a mystical triangle with Chiron, Venus, Pluto and linked to Neptune, also)
his Chiron exactly quinkunx my NEptune
his Chiron exactly quinkunx my pluto

my Chiron parallel his Jupiter
my Chiron parallel his Pluto

in helio:

my Chiron trine his NEptune
his Chiron quinkunx my Neptune
my Chiron parallel his Jupiter
his Chiron parallel my Venus
his Chiron parallel my Jupiter
his Chiron exaclty contraparallel my Neptune (with an orb of 0.0)


WE also have in the Geo:
my Venus parallel his Sun
his Venus parallel my Sun

So as far as I count it right:

Cinderella linkages: 12 (Did I see that right? 12? )

Romance linkages: 9

Cupid linkages: 2 (do they count more as a sexual linkage or more as a romance linkage?)

life time linkage: 5!


WE don`t have all that much sexual linkages though:

my Juno contraparallel his Mars

in helio:

his Venus quinkunx my Pluto
my Mars conjunct his Uranus
my Venus contraparallel his Mars
my Mars contraparallel his Uranus

(my Venus square his Pluto)

I just had a short peek at the planetary geometry, but in the geo there is:

A Yod between:
my Neptune sextile my Pluto quinkunx his Chiron - even though this is pretty generational I would count it though, because all three aspects are exact, 0°!

A mystical triangle of:
my Venus squares my Pluto, while his Chiron trines my Venus and quinkunx my Pluto.

And in the helio there is even a sexual yod:

his Mars sextile my Pluto and both quinkunx his Venus


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posted June 05, 2008 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD, you have beautiful CAC synastry and 8 cinderella's too!!! lol

We are synchronized on some levels you know? So interesting.... l think l made a mistake as chiron/pluto is not a cinderella l don't think. Here is what Magi says:

When Chiron makes a linkage to Venus, Neptune, or Jupiter, the planets form Cinderella Linkages and such Linkages are the most powerful signs that two people could be soulmates. But Linkages between Chiron and Sun or Pluto are also very powerful signs that two persons could marry and we also call them Cinderella Linkages. Together with the Mars-Chiron Linkage, these six linkages appear more often in the CACs of happily married couples than any linkages formed by any other two planets.


Hey, you like my mystical triangle? I'll swap your GT with it

Tell me about it... my synastry with this guy is heaven on earth which is why i'm so convinced he's my twin flame. We both appeared at a time in our lives where we were coming out of hell and subsequent a transformational period.

It's just amazing. Now l look back and realize that all my ex's were not magically linked to me... they were just lessons and wake-up calls

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posted June 05, 2008 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bvanzy- Thank you also.

Just a general question - the lists above pertain to synastry, right? Or can they be applied elsewhere? Just double checking...

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posted June 05, 2008 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually l forgot that we have a GT lol

in Geo... (at least l think i'm right)

his sun 19' leo
mars 16' leo
trine my
saturn 18' aries
NN 18' aries
venus 21' aries
trine his
moon 19' sagittarius

is that a Grand Trine? you know i'm so tired l can't remember anything anymore lol

IS it considered more than one GT cos of so many planets each side of the moon.. eg: can l say sun/venus/moon grand trine and mars/saturn/moon grand trine?
If so, looks like there are 5?

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posted June 05, 2008 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unmoved, synastry and natal transits... oh, and first meeting charts and marriage charts.

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You're welcome Unmoved. There are not many places you can find lists of magi aspects, so I just jotted their meanings down in their words as I read through their stuff. But there are a lot of gaps as you see. I'd quite like a full list myself.

The aspects in my post pertain to synastry yes, unless marked otherwise.

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