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EighthMoon
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posted July 10, 2008 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Joan,

You and I have some similar placements and I seem to be having a similar experience right now. I also have my Moon in Gemini and Libra rising. I'm a Pisces and the person I'm having this experience with is a Virgo sun/Pisces moon/Libra rising.

I completely agree with what WriteSomething, Peace Angel, & Gem have told you about Saturn and the North Node.

Your sun conjuncting both his Saturn and North Node will kind of bind you together "for better or worse" til you've helped him become the highest version of himself. I can't see what degree his Chiron is, but it looks as if his Chiron trines your Sun/his Saturn/his North Node. That basically means that this relationship will be healing for you as well.

You are very "connected" to this person in a lot of ways, so I can see why you can't stop thinking about him. (Again, I can't see what degrees his planets are, so some of these may be a wide orb, meaning too far from eachother by degree to be felt strongly, but let's take a look anyway !)

You have a conjunction of your Mars and his Moon in Scorpio, which trines a conjunction of your Moon and his Venus in Gemini. This also appears to trine his Vertex in Aqua. The Vertex has been referred to as "Destiny's Gate." These are pretty significant planets/points to be contacting eachother. Very emotional. Your Vertex opposes his Pluto.

I see your Moon is 29 Gem. What degree in Libra is his Pluto? Moon/Pluto connections make for never ending intensity, even if it is a wider orb.

You two have a bit of Pluto/Scorpio/8th house stuff going on which also accounts for obsessive feelings. Your Mars and Venus (the love planets) make contact to his moon in Scorpio, his Pluto is potentially trining your Moon, and his Chiron falls in your 8th and trines your Sun/his Saturn/his NN.

It looks like you've got some time to put into this one! It may move slower than you'd like.

To address your Saturn/Mars transiting question... These two transiting planets are conjunct and will be effecting mass thought/events/etc. Saturn is still at 5 degrees, so you have a while before it is in orb of your Sun...unless his Saturn/North Node are at a lesser degree. I'll come back and post the transit interps for you in a bit.

Hope this was helpful! Welcome to LindaLand!

8th

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EighthMoon
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posted July 10, 2008 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message
Back again!

Just want to mention that when it comes to transits, I wouldn't change plans. Just become aware of the fact that there are energies that cause you to feel and react in certain ways. For example, with Mars transits, you may feel inclined to "bite back" or pick a fight. With the knowledge that it's a passing transit, know that holding your tongue may be the best option and that you'll most likely feel different about it later. Know what I mean?

Here are the interps for the Saturn and Mars transits. The link is below so you can check out any transits that are within a 3 degree orb of your natal planet.

Have fun!
8th
http://www.planetaryvisions.net/transit%20readings.html

Transiting Saturn conjunct your natal Sun
This transit may happen twice in your lifetime. The interpretation of this Conjunction depends on past history and your personal view of life. Very relevant to your age and situation and/or circumstance in life. It can mean either Great success or Great failure. Consider *The position of the Sun and its corresponding' Natal aspects - these are very important in interpreting how to read this aspect. Example ~ If your Sun is in 10th house ~ represents the height of your career or lifes work. Consider ~ Also If the Natal position of Saturn is well placed indicative of prestige, rewards, achievements, recognitions, honor and/or promotions. Good for taking on those responsibilities you've been considering. Consider ~ if Natal Sun is afflicted ~ resentment and feelings of despair or that time and opportunities that you feel has passed you by. With an afflicted Natal Sun one should not marry during this transit. Emotionally ~ feeling lonely and/or isolated. Regardless ~ this transit will bring on self evaluation. Desire to take control of your life. Work ~ heavy work loads. A difficult time for advancement. Home/family ~ may indicate a marriage or the ending of one ~ letting go of/selling or buying a home. Health ~ a health examination may be needed.

Transiting Saturn Conjunct His Natal Saturn This is a Very Important Conjunction. A passage of Life. Much of this Conjunction is about the process of sorting out "Your Life." It's about jobs, careers, desires, relationships ..... and deciding what you do or do not want to continue and/or recommit to. This transit helps you to have a true, honest insight/perception into yourself and what you really want. A time of endings and new beginnings and a good time to initiate changes and follow them. A chance to find your true work in life and discover your innermost desires. Possible honors and recognition. Good time for research, studying or inventing. Some withdrawing from social life. Try to work with this Conjunction ~ Remember the theory of "Garbage in - garbage out" in other words do positive - positive comes back, do negative - negative comes back. Saturn return ~ Your first Saturn Conjunction represents new foundations. (approx. the age of 29-31) It is a time that concerns the outline and planning of goals for your success and/or fame. Second Saturn Conjunction ~ (approx, age 58-62) a time for reviewing accomplishments and failures. Upside ~ if feeling satisfied with your position in life you should consider consolidating energy and possible expansion after this transit has passed. Downside ~ however if you are unsatisfied with position you find yourself in ~ it can be a very disheartening transit with many setbacks. A "Do Over" that must begin again with honesty and thoroughness. Third Saturn Conjunction (approx, age 87-91) goals of life become critical issues. Either brings honors and recognition if life has been fulfilling. Or if unfulfilled ~ an absolute shattering and crumbling of the worn out conditions in life.

Transiting Mars Conjunct Your Natal Sun
A somewhat jolting transit. Feeling more assertive or aggressive than usual. Increases both risk taking moods and courageous feelings. Inclined to stand firm on issues. You will push back if pushed. Pace yourself and keep temper in check. Good for direct action in situations, bold romances and sports competitions. Depending on other aspects in the chart ~ financial endeavors are favored. And ~ may be good for high financial risks. Physical vitality is up. But be careful to not overstrain your back. In some cases ~ avoid overexertion, heavy exercises or activities that would overstress your heart. If out in the Sun today - be careful of sunburns.

Transiting Mars Conjunct His Natal Saturn
The original desire to authorize and execute. Feelings of frustration increases. In a state of low physical and emotional energy for a few days. Instances of either too much work or working too hard. Pressure to get things done in a hurry. Authority or rules and regulations confine you and may slow you down. Do not begin new projects ~ not a indicator of success. Danger from actions or situations that are forced. Possible conflict with authorities or governmental agencies. Get some rest or passive relaxation and exercise ~ such as a massage, yoga , stretching, easy walks, etc...

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EighthMoon
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posted July 10, 2008 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message
Annnnddd...a little more on some of the interps!

Sun conjunct Saturn:
What does it mean in a relationship when your Sun is in conjunction with your partner’s Saturn? A Sun conjunction Saturn aspect gives your partner soundness of judgment and emphasizes his/her ability to focus on what matters to you both and builds a strong sense of purpose. This is a powerful indicator for a strong sense of personal security and a stable marriage despite the day to day distractions of domestic life. If your partner’s Sun is conjunct your Saturn, it strengthens your resolve and can boost your ability to define boundaries and direst your energies toward long term goals.

Moon conjunct Mars:
What does it mean to your relationship when your Moon is in conjunction with your partner’s Mars? You will find strong sexual attraction and you may enjoy being both the aggressive and receptive partner in your romantic relationship. Both of you will experience an increase in creativity, impulsiveness and spontaneity. If your romantic partner’s Moon is in conjunction with your Mars, he/she responds well to your desires, romantic moods and sexual needs.

Moon conjunct Venus:
What does it mean to your relationship when your Moon is in conjunction with your partner’s Venus? Harmony and sharing are a major part of your relationship. You are very receptive to your partner’s artistic interests and ideas of beauty and romance. If your partner’s Moon is in conjunction with your Venus, he/she will share her deepest feelings and be receptive and supportive of your creative and artistic interests as well as your romantic feelings.

Moon trine Moon:
What does it mean to your relationship when your Moon is trine with your partner’s Moon? You have an easy flow of companionship and harmony, a desire to nurture and support each other, and an intuitive sensitivity to each other’s emotional and romantic needs. This is an excellent indicator for a secure long term relationship or a happy marriage.

Saturn square Venus:
What does it mean to your relationship when your Saturn is square your partner’s Venus? You face something about your romantic relationship that restricts your time together. There’s something about your partner’s viewpoints regarding romantic love and family that you can’t quite bring yourself to trust. If your romantic partner’s Saturn is square your Venus, he/she may have problems with intimacy. Even if your partner is normally very generous, something is cautioning him/her to slow down and find out what it is he/she really needs. There is a seriousness to your union that makes you keep trying to work together and a sense that you both really need to get things right between you.
http://www.skyviewzone.com/lovematch/sunsynastryaspects.htm

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Joan
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posted July 11, 2008 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joan     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks a lot EightMoon!! Actually, even if I had struggled with myself and had resoluted to not see him again when I go back home, of course, I was unable to resist the urge and I bought him a nice gift. Also, no matter how much I censored myself and tried to impose on myself the idea that I must not see him, it seems I cant help it. I have been home since yesterday evening and the only natural things to do that comes into my mind is to go see him.

Curiously enough, there seems to be a part of me that finds it very natural that i should continue to see him. And i am not agitated at all or distressed at the idea. It feels like coming home.

I will see him on Tueday or Thursday next week. Hope no nasty transits come up till then.

Thank you again for the very extended analysis. Especially for the "destiny thing" analysis....it made some things clear.

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