posted July 06, 2008 12:19 PM         

I`ve been pondering something (of course it seems like I`m ALWAYS pondering something. lol), and this is probably interesting only for those, who believe in past lives. But what the heck, I just share my thoughts, and you tell me what you think, `kay?

Well, we believe that the Draconic charts tell us something about the past life of a person, at least about those experiences in a previous life, that still influence the present soul in this present life.

So, wouldn`t it be logical, that the connections of Draconic planets to Draconic planets of another person tell us more about the previous lives or previous soul-experiences that those persons shared?

What I mean is that Draconic planets aspecting each other give us insight into the relationship of these persons in previous incarnations.

We could place the Draconic planets into the Draconic houses to see, where they influenced each other - it`s kinda funny, I tried that out with Jude Law, and Jude`s Draconic Sun and Draconic Venus fall into my 12th draco house, with his Venus being exactly conjunct the 12th house cusp (equal houses), which looks to me like some kind of a secret affair or spiritual connection.

We could go on then and see what aspects exist between the Draconic planets.
If there are only a few conjunctions and oppositions but many sextiles, we could conclude that those two may have encountered each other, but maybe not had such a deep relationship.

To see, if this this is bound to change, and how this past relationship still influences the present lives, we could compare Draconic to Tropical positions.
For example: Someones DR Pluto conjuncts the tropical Moon of the other person: there might have been some powerplay of the 1st person in a previous past (especially if this draco pluto also connects to draco planets of the other person), which still influences the emotional body of the second person, and might explain the intensity of emotions between them.

The Tropical to Tropical would give us hints towards the relationship / connection that is completely based on the present incarnation.

Are you still with me? Or have I confused you?
What do you think of my theory?

DD

posted July 06, 2008 12:27 PM         

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So, wouldn`t it be logical, that the connections of Draconic planets to Draconic planets of another person tell us more about the previous lives or previous soul-experiences that those persons shared?

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duh..
why else do i use that in any soulmate case study i present

posted July 06, 2008 12:33 PM         

If I had to use an imagery for the different connections I would say:

There is a beauiful landscape, divided by a broad river. On the one side of the river (the far side) there is a pretty meadow with mountains in the background (our previous lives).
On the other side of the river (the one we are standing on - the present life) there`s also a pretty meadow, with a little path leading into a forest, which is in the background of this picture.

Aspects of Draconic to draconic planets:
Describe what happens on the other side of the river; the side with the mountains (the previous incarnations).

Aspects of tropical to tropical planets:
describe the present life, the landscape with the forest we are standing on.

Draconic to tropical aspects now reach from the mountain-side to the forest-side OVER the river and therefore connect our past personality with our present personality.

Could I describe it this way?

posted July 07, 2008 03:25 PM         

But seriously...what I really mean is that your understanding of all the relationship stuff (draconics, soul mates, etc...) just blows me away. I've tried applying it to my relationship, but I'm mostly just lost. I'm afraid that I'm not looking at the right aspects, or that I'm too close to the situation to really understand it.

So, I'm wondering...would either or both of you be kind enough to take a look at the relationship between my SO and me? If so, I can give you all the birth data, maybe in an e-mail or at a time when I can erase the post after. (He's EXTREMELY private and I don't want to make his info public if I don't have to.)

Btw DD - where in Germany are you? I thought you mentioned Munich in one of your posts, but I'm not sure I remember correctly!

posted July 07, 2008 03:56 PM         

thanks for the nice compliment.
But I can`t promise to stop, because sometimes I`m just carried away by my thoughts.

Of course I could have a look at your synastry. You can mail me at Sulpicia@yahoo.com.

But soulmates, Draconics aside, it all starts with the natals.

And then you continue with the tropical synastry only with the planets and angles for a start.
And only after you have done that, you slowly add important asteroids.

If you really want to focus on synastric aspects, I`d suggest you look at conjunctions and oppositions within 3° of important planets, angles and the ruler of ASC, DC and IC.

I`m pretty s ure you will find several.

posted July 07, 2008 04:05 PM         

I think I have a decent grasp of the tropical synastry stuff, but I think I may be guilty of being too generous with the orbs. But in my defense, there are so many opinions on this!

posted July 07, 2008 04:27 PM         

I was thinking about what I had told you before in the celeb post.

How I was supposed to recieve help from men of prominence to achieve my destiny.

When I looked at the aspects between me and G.C it started to make sense.

With His name conjuct my destiny (asteroid)and IC ( private and hidden)
and My arab point of destiny and actor conjunct his sun and asteroid destiny and his mercury.

Then his circe fell on my NN
Circe = where one gives or recieves help.

posted July 07, 2008 05:31 PM         

Also, I read that Circe is prominent in charts of people who have some connection to the Druid`s arts (among other things); have you?

It`s interesting, I just checked my own Circe, and it`s conjunct my Sun, Mercury, Merlin, Dr Lilith and Dr Hekate close to the Galactic Centre.

Dunno what this means though.

posted July 07, 2008 06:41 PM         

I think that my soulie is going to come back to me. Seems like the beginning of our relationship has triggered past life hurt - similar to what you are saying

posted July 07, 2008 07:20 PM         

Now, I'm not so sure, at least when it comes to the synastry. In fact, I guess I've become kind of confused. I have a lot of karma with Scorpios, which you can see in my natal chart. My Scorpio ex, who I was in love with but who wasn't in love with me, is named "M". I wanted to marry "M" as well, but "M" wanted to just be super close friends ( which is what he told me one week after mentioning that he could picture spending the rest of his life with me). So now I can only assume that we must have been married in a past lifetime, although I still feel confused about all of the interconnections between our natal and Draconic charts. Maybe someone here would be kind enough to tell me how you think the following information might be interpreted from your experiences studying natal/draconic connections:

In my Draconic chart, "M" asteroid sits at 9'49 Scorpio which is the exact degree which his Sun occupies in his own natal chart. I'm not sure how to interpret that, but I know it's significant. Similarly, his Draconic "C" asteroid (MY name asteroid), as well as D. Osiris and D. Valentine are conjunct his own natal Moon and Vertex.

~ My natal North Node is in Scorpio and it conjuncts his natal Sun, Juno and Cupido.

~ My natal Isis conjuncts his natal Osiris.

~ My Draconic Isis conjuncts his Draconic Vertex.

~ His Draconic Moon conjuncts my natal Descendant and his Draconic Ascendant conjuncts my natal Moon.

~ My Draconic Vertex conjuncts his Draconic Jupiter

~ My natal Juno conjuncts his natal Vertex

~ My Draconic Valentine conjuncts his natal Isis

So there are some aspects, but I cannot seem to see how it explains things. I mean, I can see how it indicates a past life marriage but it also seemed to me to indicate a THIS lifetime marriage, which clearly is not the case.

So.....??

posted July 07, 2008 08:07 PM         

missed your interesting threads - then again ...i was with Jonnhy so im as HAPPY as i can be and even more now that i can look a little bit more at our charts ( i lost all the counting of how much i did this analysis hihihi )

Im starting to think i might be overly obsessed with Astrology

Let´s see it in a general way: JUST LISTED THE MOST IMPORTANT ones

The side of the MOUNTAINS: PAST LIFE

j´S D.Sun opose A´S D.Amor
J´S D.Moon opose A´s D.Union/Destinn
J´s D.Venus conj A´s D.Sun
J´s D.Mars conj A´s Psyche
J´s D.Valentine conj A´s D.Moon
J´s D Amor conj A´s D.Venus
J´s D.Karma conj A´s D.VX
J´s D.Pluto conj A´s D.AC
J´s D.Eros conj A´s D.Psyche
J´s D.Isis/oSIR opose A´s D. Vesta
J´s D.Siva conj A´s D.Kaali
J´s D.Saturn conj A´s D.AC 0º/D.Jonnhy2º
J´s D.Saturn conj A´s Sun/Moon MID.
J´s D.DC conj A´s D.IC 4º

j´S D.Anna conj A´s D.SIva/D.Ceres
J´s D.Anna opose A´s D.Valentine 4º
j´S D.jUNO conj A´S D.Anna 5º

posted July 07, 2008 08:35 PM         

BRIDGE from PAST onto the PRESENT - Dr. to Natal :

His D. Sun conj my NN wide 5º
His D Sun conj my Isis ( 2º)
His D DC conj my Destiny (0º) DW??
His D Venus conj my Vesta(3º)
His D Moon conj my Kaali (3º)
His D Osiris/isis conj my Love(1º)
His D Kaali conj my P.O.M(0º);conjuncts my Osiris(0º)
His D Mars conj my Venus(2º)
hIS D. Valentine opose my Sun 2º
His D. Amor conj my Kiron 3º
His D.KARMA opose my Destinn/Union 0º
his D.AC conj my VX 4º
His D.IC conj my MC 1º- his D.dESTINN also conj my IC
HIS D.VX conj my Sun 2º

mY D.AC conj his NN wide 4º
my D.ANNA opose his AMOR 0º
my D.Jonnhy conj his LILITH-i might have to have made him/or will face his darkest shadow?Fears?Feminin side awakening?

My D.DC conj his LILITH-once again,i might have make him feel strange and hiden pains as a partner?
My D.IC conj his IC 1º - LOVED THIS ONE!
MY D.DEstinn/UNION conj his KARMA 0º - once again,this asteroids really work.
my D.Pluto conj his SUN..hmm intense
My d.vALENTINE CONJ HIS 11THCUSP 0º
MY D.Sun conj his VALENTINE 0º

Well it seems that we somehow reconected the past HIStory as lovers,to this PRESENT ONE.
BUT i found some hard stuff specially regarding Pluto and Lilith energies...

what do you think DD?

posted July 07, 2008 08:49 PM         

since it is about karma connections and past lives I really am wondering our past relationship.

his pluto square my venus
my pluto conjunct his mars

my saturn trines his venus
my saturn trines his karma

amor conjunct amor
valentine sextile valentine

posted July 07, 2008 09:08 PM         

if neptune is making good aspects then would this reflect the spiritual side
and hard aspects reflect the illusion?

posted July 08, 2008 09:05 AM         

Maybe reflected the past relationship itself?

And if we compared it with the dracos,would reflect how each one was developed/felt withint the relationship?

Or if we compare it with the natals,see what "energies" we had to work trhough in this life in order to "resolve" past karmas?

For instance,

Dr C. Venus conj his Valentine and his Dr.Venus

Dr. C. Venus conj my D.Venus and D.Sun

Dr. C. Sun conj my NN/PF/Vesta; conj his DR.VEnus

Dr. C Valentine conj my VX and D.MC and D.JonhPaul - conj his MC also.

Dr C Juno conj his POM

Dr C Moon conj my IC

Dr C AMor exact conj my Amor - and exact opose his AMOR!

posted July 08, 2008 09:17 AM         

Iqhunk's post

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Meditate on the Sabian of your True Node in 13.2 Cancer.
13-14 deg Cancer
"A Very Old Man Facing A Vast Dark Space To The Northeast."

Is he your Guru whom you are yet to meet? Was he a past life guru? Have you dreamt something like this ?

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man...IQ is spookily accurate..i just did meet my Guru after waiting for long

posted July 08, 2008 09:17 AM         

here's our unbelievable synastry...i dont even have these kind of aspects with my parents ...only some...but not as many as this .....

his Saturn conjunct my Ascendent at 15 Pisces...to the minute and second
his moon at 18 Pisces joins it.

also better i have my Draco sun and moon at 16 and 19 Pisces respectively.

his Draco Venus conjunct my True Node to the minute and Second...exactly where IQ told was important !!!!

better...his Pluto exactly conjunct my DC..to the second !!!

his mars conjunct my Pluto...we did feeel powerful when we together..

his Ascendent conjuncts exactly.... my ATLANTIS AND HORUS....whoa man....

posted July 08, 2008 09:18 AM         

his dr. Moon and Saturn conjunct my dr.Karma

his dr. Pluto conjunct my Natal Moon

!!! def.. past life family...

his dr. Uranus con my natal Sun

his dr. Jupiter con my dr. Nessus exact..

AND...HIS dr. VENUS CON MY dr. PLUTO IN CANCER ON MY TRUE NODE.......

one wierd thing is ...his asteroid Kaali conjuncts his Sun in leo...just like mine does ..in Cancer

he is a veteran Tantric practitioner...i m a desperate student who was waiting for teacher..

i HAD meditated on my Oversoul to send past life mates into my life so i could grow into new directions...

posted July 08, 2008 12:46 PM         

wow, that is awesome synastry. And it shows how true soulmates will really have very tight aspects; no need to go beyond 3°.

How would you interprete this AS- ATlantis / Horus-conjunction?

This dr Venus - dr Pluto conjunction on your NN really took my breath away. WOW!
Stuff like that really sends shivers down your spine.

WEll, I noticed such a shiver-sending constellation in the Draco-connection with the singer I am making the chart for,a nd which I still plan to give him some day. lol

His Draco Sun, Draco Moon, Draco MC and tropical Juno fall onto my Draco IC; and all of this opposes my Draco MC; Draco Pluto, tropical Anubis and his tropical Venus.

his Draco Sun: 25°34 Cancer
his Draco Moon: 27°13 Cancer
his Draco MC: 26°00
his Juno: 27°39 Cancer
my Draco IC: 24°48 Cancer

his Venus: 25°55 Capricorn
my Anubis: 28°14 Capricorn
my Draco Pluto: 28°55 Capricorn

Whoa, what did I do to this guy in a past life?