posted August 07, 2008 03:07 PM              

If I have Moon on 28° Sagittarius and someone else has Sun on 2° Capricorn, we would still consider those two planets conjunct (4° orb), but since 0° Capricorn is a "mirror-axis", it also means that the MOon is 2° in front of this mirror and Sun is 2° behind this mirror. And everytime two planets are equidistant from our mirror, they are said to be in antiscion.
So, we would have an aspect (conjunction) and the connection over antiscion.

BTW planets that are parallel to the Sun are almost always either conjunct the Sun or antiscion the Sun (it works only with Sun-parallels though).

posted August 07, 2008 03:12 PM              

I don`T know if that metaphor still fits, but they are somehow invisible, but very much there, and they create mysterious attractions.
Some astrologers called them "shadow conjunctions" and said to treat them like we would treat normal conjunctions, as they are equal in strength.

posted August 07, 2008 03:28 PM              

My longest crush (the gay musical actor) has his Neptune in Scorpio in the EXACT antiscion of my Moon in Aquarius(Neptune rules his ASC and Moon rules my 8th house).
I can tell you TALES about THAT forcefield. Nebulous, dreamy, unreal, surreal, all very Neptunian.

It`s intersting, when we actually coincidentally met, and that whole thing started to solve itself (FINALLY), Transit Neptune was exactly conjunct my Moon and in the antiscion of his Neptune (his Neptune also is in the antiscion of his SN, which conjuncts my Moon exactly, so I guess it was a real OLD tale).

He actually completed me or my Moon in a way. And that is really interesting now. To me at least.
My Aquarius Moon is so intellectual, and before him I have never neve never had an infatuation about actor or anyone else; I was just standing above those things. I detested jealousy and posessiveness. Passion? Not real, just a figment of imagination. NOt being able to let go of a person, to be dependent? Weakness of an overemotional soul. Yes, I was convinced you can switch off and on your emotions, if you just try hard enough. Besides who needs such a dirty emotional mess in their lives, when they can have airy thoughts? (Aquarius - Moon, what shall I say?)

And then, he came on the stage of my life, with his Neptune in Scorpio in my 11th house.
Neptune - Sure he was a GAY MUSICAL ACTOR. How can you describe NEptune better (he could have been a drug addict, too, actually I met those too in that period)?
He drew my Moon, my emotions into his forcefield; well, drew, pulled, hypnotized me into it, fits it rather. Actually when it all started I had a dream I have never forgotten. And in that dream I had been pulled into a painting. REally pulled into it. And at once point in the dream I was walking on water, but then I remembered that I can`t swim, and I started drowning and that man told me that I drowned because I didn`t have faith. And then he disappeared.
But back to reality his Neptune in SCORPIO led me to experience all that I had suppressed, because my intellectual Aquarius-mind didn`t want to acknowledge it. And I experienced it all, the passion, the dependency, the emotional ups and downs, the obsession, the jealousy, the pain, the ultimate loss, the need to let go and surrender, I think I learned devotion, that I am NOT on a higher point as a mere observant. I am deeply involved in it all.

Funny enough when I noticed him Transit Pluto was exactly square my Moon and roughly conjunct his Neptune and opposite his Moon (seems he has had an exhausting period, too).

I think that is how it worked. I had to integrate him, or rather the part he symbolized, the part of my soul I had pushed away, and now I had to reintegrate this part. IT is a step on the way to wholeness.
And we humans learn that by meeting people, on which we can project all that is hidden and suppressed; they make us aware of it, so we can reintegrate it and finally return home into our own soul.

JEsus, what is wrong with me today? I`m writing and haven`t got the single idea what is writing me.

HOwever, I think this is how antiscion work, on a deeply spiritual, yet very real and physical level.

posted August 07, 2008 03:35 PM              

The thing is some people put the mirror on 0° Capricorn - 0° Cancer.
Some people put the mirror on the axis of 0° Aries - 0° Libra.

And if you change the place of the mirror, suddenly the antiscion will transform itself to the contrascion.

Example:
Aries has the antiscion in Pisces if you put the mirror onto 0° Aries.
If you put the mirror onto 0° Capricorn, Aries will have its antiscion in Virgo.

So, I don`t make a difference here.

There COULD be a symbolic difference between the Aries- LIbra and Capricorn-Cancer-axis though. Like Ascions over Cancer - Cappy reflecting more something parental, while Aries-Libra are more equally relationship oriented.

But since you will always get the same point, either as antiscion or as contrascion, I would treat them the same.

posted August 07, 2008 06:33 PM            

His Vesta conjunct my North Node
His Vesta trine my Venus
His Vesta conjunct my Neptune
His Vesta sextile my Pluto
His Vesta sextile my Ceres
His Vesta trine my Vesta
His Vesta conjunct my Psyche

My Vesta conjunct his Sun
My Vesta conjunct his Venus
My Vesta sextile his Jupiter
My Vesta trine his Neptune
My Vesta trine his Pallas
My Vesta trine his Vesta

With his Vesta conjunct my North Node, who do you think would feel it more? I have always felt a very strong love and devotion towards him. So I guess I’m just trying to see which one of us feels it more strongly. If it’s only me that feels that way?

posted August 08, 2008 09:50 AM              

With your Vesta conjunct his Sun and Venus you would play some kind of "Vesta-role" I think. The other way round his Vesta-qualities have some kind of influence on your destiny, purpose in life.

What I probably want to say is that the receptive energies, the yin energies, probably feel more. Receptive means you receive someone, that means you need to open up your heart and let him touch you deeply inside, int his case he touches your Vesta-side, a spiritual sacred sexuality and gentle warmth and friendship-feeling. You would probably see sex more as a spiritual merging than for the reasons of procreation.

Of course you trigger also Vesta-energies inside him.

I found that quote on astrology cafe in the "ASk Annie" section (a real good section, if oyu ask my opinion, always worth a read):

"Generally, in synastry, the person who is more enthralled is the "owner" of the more receptive planet. For example, with Venus-Mars interaspects, the Venus person tends to be more enthralled by the Mars person, and perhaps the more vulnerable person in this particular equation. However, the Mars person tends to appreciate the Venus person's attention, and so it does go both ways. With Psyche and Eros, Psyche would be the person more likely to be enthralled by the Eros person. Again, the enchantment does go both ways, but the Psyche person tends to be the more vulnerable person in this equation."

I basically agree, but of course the Mars or Eros owner (especially the Eros-owner) will be affected, too, in the typical Mars or Eros-way. Something that touches our Eros, will trigger very strong erotic desires and passions inside us.

I think as a rule of thumb you could say you experience the aspect through the glasses of the planet, you own.

Example:
Your Venus conjunct his Uranus - your Venus-side will be triggered.

EDIT:
That compatibility grid and the explanations are interesting, too.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/signcompatiblitygrid.html

You can use this grid by comparing:

Sun-Sun
Moon-Moon
Venus-Venus
Mars-Mars
Eros-Eros
Psyche-Psyche
AC-AC

and especially for

Sun-Moon
Venus-Mars
ERos-Psyche
Venus-AC
(Moon-AC)
or even AC-DC

also useful for:
Sun - Venus
Moon - Mars
Moon - AC

and to a lesser degree also useful for:

Sun-Mars
Moon - Venus
Sun - AC
Mars - AC

The yin - Yin combinations would be good for compatibility and the Yin - Yang for attraction.

It gives a nice overview, how the basic natures of two people fit, but of course aspects are better.

Still even if two planets are ONLY in the same sign, there wil be some kind of understanding and similiarity or complimentarity,e ven if it is not as intense as with an aspect.

ACtually I would do a basic comparision and then see, which planets are REALLY in aspect with each other, to see, if there is enough common ground for a relationship to develop and where the main areas of contact will be.

I also think that you can see with the predominance of certain aspects, what tone the relationship will have.
For example a relationship, based on sextile signs and sextile aspects will have friendship-character more than passions, EVEN if the planets are Venus and Mars.
You can also make love to you friend, can you not?

posted August 08, 2008 04:00 PM              

vESTA has to do with vows isnt it? i thought as it concerns purity and virginity,when Vesta is trigered maybe the person looks at the "vesta person" as somewhat a pure person and wlooked at in a very special way?

Me and Jonh have:

his Vesta conj my 5thCusp
my Vesta trine his Moon 1º (Ruler of his ac)
My Vesta trine his Saturn 3º ( ruler of his DC)
My Vesta conj his Valentine 5º
My Vesta skuare his Amor 4º

His Vesta opose my Mars 0º ( ruler of my DC)
Sextile my VX 3º
Opose my KARMA 2º
Opose my Valentine 2º

So,by now we have a DW on Vesta-Valentine.

My antisticia of Vesta is conj his NN by 2º

on waht ot concerns the other conections that the author we have:

posted August 08, 2008 05:40 PM              

"vESTA has to do with vows isnt it?"
Yes, but it`s a vow to NOT commit to just one man, which means they weren`t allowed to marry. Instead the Vesta virgins were supposed to dedicate their service to spiritual things.

"i thought as it concerns purity and virginity"
There has been a misconception with the meaning of purity and virginity. It did NOT mean sexual innocence; It meant to be "without man", which is: to be without a husband and children.
But the Vesta virgins actually had lovers and consorts, jsut they weren`t allowed to have a family with them.

What they did practise though, was some kind of "sacred sex"; using sex for a spiritual union and to grow spiritually. But WITHOUT any sign of dependency.

Interstingly the Vestal Virgins often were "sacred prostitutes".

So, yes, they were pure in the sense that they were commited to themselves and not to another person.
Their "relationships" were not meant to manifest in the social reality of everyday life. I guess, therefore the relation of Vesta to "Tantric sex".

"his Vesta conj my 5thCusp"
I have that, too, with that guy. His Vesta conjunct my 5th cusp.

my Vesta trine his Moon 1º (Ruler of his ac)
Funny, my Vesta is conjunct his Moon.

"So,by now we have a DW on Vesta-Valentine."
Sounds great.

posted August 08, 2008 05:57 PM              

yes, I agree.
In my case I`m just not sure how much significance his Venus conjunct my Antivertex has, because the orb is 4,5°. Does it still work with that orb?

posted August 08, 2008 06:27 PM              

But remember how I said that this Mars-Uranus-opposition in the supposed first meeting chart looked like a bit troublesome? I guess this was one possibility for it to manifest.

I`m really sorry for you.
WEll, maybe he was just scared from all this intensity.

Don`T you have his number? Why don`t you ask him what went wrong?

posted August 08, 2008 06:37 PM              

I do have his number, and l left a message on his phone - and i texted him to say "hopefully you have the balls to explain why you ruined my friday night! Thanks"

He has not even had the decency to phone or text me!!!
What a ****head... honestly. I'm really angry at his dishonesty as l don't deserve to be messed around!

posted August 08, 2008 07:21 PM              

Yes, it`s his loss, (you only lost a friday evening, which is bad enough).

Didn`t he ask you out? And then didn`t appear?
I just don`t get this. And they say, us women are complicated. lol

Can it be that Transit Uransu is on the antiscion of one of his Aries planets?
Would explain this erratic, stupid and impulsive behaviour.