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posted September 02, 2008 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemLover     Edit/Delete Message
Well you're more Uranian than I am, and he would like that with his moon opposite Uranus and Mars in Aquarius. Our synastry doesn't look that great really - the composite is nice though.

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posted September 02, 2008 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
LOL, Im taken permanently! Just what I needed, a THIRD gemini! LOL, one with tau merc, one with gem merc and one with cancer merc!

Ha! Where is his rising and mars? And moon and venus? Just out of interest lol! (and I think you'd probably get on better with my partner too!)


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posted September 02, 2008 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemLover     Edit/Delete Message
He's Aries rising like you and JT, Aries moon like Marc Bolan, Venus in Gemini like me, Mars in Aquarius like C3PO...

I seem to be constantly surrounded by Gemini's... Jamie Oliver is on TV right now and I just found out that he's a Gemini too. And he's my age, so maybe we have a Mars conjunction (in Pisces). He has Venus in Cancer, which probably means his Venus is in my 7th... Anyway... I agree, too many Gemini's around... take my Gemini, please...

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posted September 02, 2008 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
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Mars in Aquarius like C3PO

Or is it R2D2?

Yeah its funny that you mention Jamie Oliver. Mr 23 looked exactly like Jamie Oliver when he was a toddler. Not now though, nothing alike now.


Btw what degrees are your Gem's planets/ASC etc? Maybe I should set up a shelter for wayward geminis or something. JT is more than welcome to stay, no fee for him if he pays by alterior means

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posted September 02, 2008 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Oh I forgot to add this, I read this recently on the website:

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Well the broad shoulders is right. Every male Leo I know, including myself has fairly broad shoulders.
The hair thing I think is subjective to "how Leo" the Leo is. For me I've always either had bleach-blond hair, or highlighted blond hair, (my natural is a border between blond/light brown), which is styled in the "rockstar" manner.
As for the eyes mine are a lame brown, that on rare occasions turn kind of a clear green (usually when I go in the ocean), go fig? But I have always been told that people can see fire in my eyes when I'm aroused, like when I'm angry, working intensely on somehthing, or in other situations when I'm aroused...
Let's not forget most Leos have very shapely posteriors!!!!

http://www.orange.co.uk/entertainment/news/3644_pr.htm


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posted September 03, 2008 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemLover     Edit/Delete Message
Ohhh! That's lovely!!! I think the colour of the shoes would be better as the colour of a top, but maybe that's just my sense of non-adventure when it comes to shoe colours. sigh

LOL @ Princess Diana perving on Simon at the gym!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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posted September 03, 2008 04:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Well it proves the point that he is a leo rising.

Marc looks like JT a lot in that picture...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki3dBxFjeYk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL08GgWjJv4&feature=related


*23 faints over a puppet even if it is the same scene twice*

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posted September 03, 2008 04:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemLover     Edit/Delete Message
Mr Gem is 28 degrees Aries rising...
Moon 16 Aries
Sun 25 Gem
Mercury 21 Gem
Venus 6 Gem
Mars 18 Aquarius

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posted September 03, 2008 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
OK, got it. A lot of 2nd house stuff there. Got to get off, my Mr Gem wants the computer. Will speak tomorrow!

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posted September 03, 2008 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemLover     Edit/Delete Message
There is no way Simon could be anything but a Leo rising, I'm 110% convinced.

And yes, there is a JT resemblance BUT as you've pointed out in another thread, JT is more angular because of his Mars influence, and Marc is more rounded and feminine (Jupiter chart ruler, Libra sun and Venus)... I think it's Marc's Aries moon that helps with the resemblance. Plus they're both air suns with fire rising.

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posted September 03, 2008 04:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemLover     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah I have to do some work now anyway... see you next time!

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posted September 04, 2008 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
hmmmm, we might be in for a bit of trouble...how do we split them up??

Yes SLB is definitely Leo AC.

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posted September 04, 2008 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Will discuss further stuff with you later...

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posted September 04, 2008 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemLover     Edit/Delete Message
lol wow! I didn't realise they started that sort of funny business so long ago. I've seen more recent(ish) pictures of them kissing onstage... very nice I must say. It seems to be all for show really, but do they have any sexual synastry? lol

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posted September 04, 2008 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Gosh, most guys are into the two girl thing and you are into the two guy thing?? This just proves my theory that maybe men are all quasi-gay. Men are very strange around their boy pals to the say the least.

Another questionable photo, but more for the quote (one of my favourite quotes actually):
http://www.geocities.com/ladyxanax13/DuranQuotes.html

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I’d spent my entire teenage years suffering one unrequited love affair after the other. I was so shy I couldn’t even talk to girls. If I fancied them, I’d follow them home, but I didn’t have the guts to approach them. I was a teenage stalker. The same went for John. The first time I saw him he was this specky geek with nicotine-stained fingers, trembling with fear at the prospect of having to meet people. And his name wasn’t even John. It was Nigel. He was a Nigel with glasses, poor sod. I remember staring at his face and slowly realising that he was rather beautiful, exquisite in fact. I mean, this was the best looking guy I’d seen in years, maybe my whole life. Losing his glasses and changing his name to John was the best thing he ever did. He was a man transformed. To see him in action was incredible. He could charm the knickers off anyone.

Straight guys don't normally notice how good looking another straight man is (from my experience), however a lot of straight guys have noticed JT for some reason:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=john+taylor

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1. John Taylor
21 thumbs up
Founder member and bass-player of UK pop phenomenon Duran Duran whose real name is actually NIGEL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Once the sexiest man on the planet, had this disturbing characteristic of making adolescent boys really confused about their sexuality
I bet he fancies John Taylor, he's been nicking my extended format / special footage Girls on Film videotape!!

Play the ******* bass John!: a recurrent mantra in any Duran Duran gig this side of the millenium


Unfortunately I can't find the exact quote relating to JT, but he said words to the effect of that he has slept with about two hundred women and almost one guy. Now, I don't think the guy is Phil Collins, SLB might be a very apt candidate given their relationship. Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if something happened between them.

I made the assumption that SLB has a 10 deg Leo asc. Not sure if he'd have ura in the 1st. I don't detect anything aqu about SLB.

Simon has his venus trine JT's (out of sign), simon has his venus opp JT's mars/eros (but out of sign). Moon conj moon (5 deg), SLB ura squ JT's moon - a bit of a thrill there; SLB sun opp JT's mars (out of sign). SLB's venus conj JT's neptune but this is a generational thing. JT's chiron trines sco stellium of SLB. SLB's pluto has personal planet aspects to (various sorts of aspects) JT's sun, moon, venus and mars. JT's pluto has various aspects to SLB's personal planets but they are a bit too wide, except he does have a trine to SLB's mars. POF conj valentine. Asteroid Taylor in SLB's chart is conj his pluto and Johnny is conj ura. Lebon is in JT's 7th house. Sounds a bit rumpy pumpy to me.


Oddly Johnny and Taylor are trine Simon's MC.

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posted September 05, 2008 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemLover     Edit/Delete Message
Wow... very interesting aspects between them. I'd forgotten about that quote from SLB, I'd read that years ago - but you're right it does seem a bit suspect. lol I wouldn't be surprised either if Simon was the "almost" one guy. As a Scorp stellium he's pretty sexy - and JT being a Gemini, a lot of them - but not ALL - can lean towards bisexuality or having bisexual thoughts, or so I read somewhere.

Well I wouldn't say I'm into the two-guy thing generally. But it looks good to me if at least one of the guys is a crush and is normally heterosexual. I'm blaming it on my Venus in Gemini and Mars in Pisces - my placements obviously like that sense of mutability.

I've heard some strange statements from men when they're around other men... lol

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posted September 05, 2008 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Don't worry, I have mars in gemini. I understand the "bending" thing. It doesn't surprise me at all if they almost got together but probably didn't because they realised they could have potentially ruined their careers at the time (as gayness was a no go back in their 80s). The trick is the to see if they have threeseomes (or more) actually. This also leads back to your dream that you had last week. My interpretation of a threesome or more is that the men all sleep with the same women because they can't quite sleep with each other but want to. So obviously in that dream, those three were very interested in each other (not saying that they are not interested in you though). Now we need to find out if this happened in real life with those two above....food for thought...

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posted September 05, 2008 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemLover     Edit/Delete Message
Ahhhh yes good point! Well! There were always rumours about Bowie and Marc - but Marc denied it in an interview and said that he was attracted to him mentally but that he wouldn't like to have sex with him... I'm betting that JT has had a very definite interest in Simon at some point and it was reciprocated, although many fans would say that they only do the kissing thing in order to be controversial. I don't think so personally, and you're right, I can think of a couple of popstars who remained in the closet during the '80s for fear of their careers being ruined (George Michael, for one)... I wonder if JT ever had a crush interest on Marc Bolan... I would imagine that he was fascinated by him at the time he was a young 'un buying the 'Ride A White Swan' single. Morrissey, who just happens to be a gay Gemini, was a big fan of Marc... and Holly Johnson, gay Aquarius with Lilith in Gemini, said that he loved Marc and was a huge fan of him - only not so much that he wanted to sleep with him, but more than he wanted to be like him... of course, I'm not trying to indicate that all Gemini's are gay, but - you know what I mean.

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posted September 05, 2008 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
You mean they are bi-curious We forgot another gay Gemini of that time - Boy George.

OK, I've looked at a few more asteroids with some interesting results:

* John's anteros is conj SLB's Mars (hmmmm, very fatal)
* JT's bonk opp SLB's sun/venus (Yep, it happened)
* SLB's lust trine JT's neptune (SLB lusted over JT and saw him as a dream)
* SLB's bonk/sydney square JT's saturn (JT must've thought it wasn't good enough)
* JT's sydney is conj SLB's chiron (hurt feelings for SLB?) and opp SLB's ura (an different occurrence in Sydney?)

So JT was action man on the prowl for love returned. SLB lusted over him, thought JT was a dream. SLB returned the love but the "act" might've been a bad one in Sydney. SLB was hurt about it.


http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/12/12/1071125652919.html?from=storyrhs

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For a time, all the fame, hits and hair dye afforded the band a genuine jet-set lifestyle. Le Bon says he didn't lose himself in the sex, drugs and electro-rock as much as some of the other band members, with the exception of an extended stay in Australia late in 1983.

As for JT obsessing about Bolan, its possible. There was a post a week back about "what is love"? Koiflower quoted some interesting things about physical attraction:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/018897.html

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People fall in love for different reasons. This isn't about astrology, but people's visual attraction based on face shapes. There are three ways to fall in love:
Harmonism - each person in partnership shares the same proportions as each other, ie, mathematically proportioned measurements are the same from forehead to bridge of nose, length of nose, interval between nose and mouth and length of chin.

Echoism - partners tend to look alike. The couple can visually mirror each other with facial features eg, strong jaw, petite jaw, wide nostrils, defined lips, full lips etc..

Prima Copulism - the person falls in love with someone who looks like someone who had great influence over them as a child, eg. nanny, grandparent, parent

You're not going crazy! Most people have a confusing time with attraction at least once in their life!! I just thought I would throw the above idea in, to give you something else to ponder.... However, I think synastry in astrology is an amazing science. It is full of infinite possibilities!!! Try comparing your chart with other ex's, and you may see how your attractions may be based on different energies.


http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/1298/Face-value.738058.jp

We've already said that JT has some resemblance to Bolan. So he had an attraction to him on the basis of echoism and maybe prima copulism (if you think Marc looks like his mum!)

I haven't heard anything specific about JT and Bolan though apart from JT obviously having some admiration of him as a pop star. As for Bolan and Bowie, God knows what was going on there, it was the 70s!

EDIT - another thing that occurred to me is that SLB has mars in gemini, JT has venus in gemini. Their planets are at either end of gemini but I'm a believer that you don't necessarily need a conj in this case to detect some level of "compatibility".

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posted September 06, 2008 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemLover     Edit/Delete Message
Oh my goodness, this is fascinating!!! I didn't even know there was an asteroid bonk... lol.

But yes, bi-curious... and I forgot about Boy George. Who happened to be having a relationship with the Culture Club drummer Jon Moss, so I recall.

The echoism thing is really interesting. That definitely makes a case for JT admiring Marc. I'm guilty of falling in love via some form of echoism myself... not always, but it's happened. Personally I think Mr Gemini has a prima copulism thing going on with me. The number of times I've been mistaken for his mother's daughter!

I agree, I think there can still be compatibility when planets are in the same sign, even without the usual orb of influence. Depending on other factors of course.

PS: I just checked and Marc and David have some Bonk aspects.

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posted September 06, 2008 05:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemLover     Edit/Delete Message
OMG... Brian Molko's Bonk is very tightly conjunct my POF - sounds as though if we met I could literally get lucky.

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posted September 06, 2008 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemLover     Edit/Delete Message
Look, I just found a video of Marc and David getting it on!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DFpwSTEWc34

LOL those guys are hilarious!!!

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posted September 06, 2008 05:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Is David Libra or Aqu rising? Aqu maybe for behaviour but Libra for appearance I think. There seems to be disagreement on the web about his rising.

I think those attraction phenomena are very common. I can certainly think of men that I have been attracted to that remind me of my father. My dad is or was tall in his younger day, was strong figured and had curly hair. He's a leo (not sure of his rising, I suspect he is leo rising but 12th house sun) and often men with a leo physique and curly hair can set me off. Its not surprised to hear about Mr GL. My partner is the same, he says that I remind him of his mum. We physically don't look alike but we have similar mannerisms and opinions. We get on really well. However, I think we (Mr 23 and I) have some level of harmonism between us except his head is a lot longer than mine.

As for JT and I, I don't think I have harmonism with him but I have some sort of echoism. We don't look exactly like each other but there's this burning familiarity, its just the behaviour, something. I think the eyes as well. I was looking at this picture (below) the other day and couldn't get how similar my eyes were his when I was younger. I used to think that my eyes were very strange and droopy at the time, yet on him, I could die for them. How wierd, I feel a bit perverted. I also look like my mum so maybe its some (perverse) connection to my mum too, LOL!

I was also thinking in relation to another post there was talk about what was thought lovable by a person (aspects to person's venus) and what is beddable (aspects to mars). JT has mars in his 1st house/aries that is conj with eros, so maybe he finds people like himself somehow attractive?


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posted September 06, 2008 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
POF conj Bonk - LOL, you never know, you might get lucky!

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