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Topic: horary - does he feel attracted to me?
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darkdreamer
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posted September 02, 2008 04:25 PM
 
I couldn`t resist doing a horary, because I really wondered if what I felt when I met him had ANY kind of resonance in him, or if I was just dreaming things up.Here`s the chart
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darkdreamer
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posted September 02, 2008 04:39 PM
My significator is Venus as ruler of ASC and his is Mars as ruler of Scorpio.
My secondary significator is Moon.Now, interesting the ASC-degree falls nearly exactly onto my name asteroid in my name and the DSC falls onto his own Valentine. 
However, as I see it:
Venus is in Libra in her own sign but in 6th house. So I am strong in myself, but in a difficult unequal position?
Yet, Venus is interested in Venus, so I am mostly focused on myself?
Moon in Libra shows my emotional place in this; it seems that this emotional place is directed towards relationships of any kind, or at least on harmonious pleasant times.
Mars, ruler of DSC, is in Libra, so he is interested in Venus, which would be me, as Venus is my significator. I think I start liking this horary.
Now my significator Venus is moving to conjunct his significator Mars - so I guess there will be a meeting?
Does that mean he also felt something?
Well, his significator is very week, in the sign of its fall and in the turned 12th house, so he is not able to act?
Maybe a lack of awareness? Also, Mercury is between my significator and hsi significator, "transfering the light", so the contact will be made through another person or circumstance, symbolized by Mercury?
There are no other planets between 4° - 9°, so there will no other disturbances, I guess.
But what does this messenger, Mercury symbolize?
A brother, an aquaitance, a pupil, a mail?
Mercury rules the 2nd and 6th house and is placed in the 6th house, seen from my perspective of course.
Hmm, somehow that reminds me of the mail, I still have to write, which somehow could be even seen as "work".
Hmm, but what is the answer to my question?
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Kick It
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posted September 02, 2008 04:56 PM
If you take Mars as ruler of Scorpio, it looks fantastic.If you take Pluto as ruler of Scorpio, not good. Old way is good, new way is bad. Its bad.
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darkdreamer
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posted September 02, 2008 05:01 PM
Horary only uses old rulers.IP: Logged |
blue moon
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posted September 02, 2008 05:22 PM
Body language indicators might be more helpful. Men tend to be quite bad at body language so you might get some good clues by trying this ~ conversely they also tend to be quite dense at picking up signals. Reading up on body language is also useful for professional purposes, so I have found. Romantic? I am married to an Aqua with Venus in Sag. Subtlety is a waste of time. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer
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posted September 02, 2008 05:24 PM
BM,what kind of body language would suggest that he was not, well, repulsed, or maybe even a tiny little bit interested? IP: Logged |
Kick It
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From: Leeds
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posted September 02, 2008 05:38 PM
No, horary does not use old rulers. People who do horary use old rulers 
Big difference. Like a Chinese whisper gone bad.Yes, Men are not always the best at body language, whereas many Women expect a guy to understand what they are putting out there.
Women, here is some advice.... Write this down! "Hey, Im DarkDreamer, so you must be light dreamer....I like you, do you like me?" Or words to that effect. Maybe make it a tiny bit more creative than that. It would help a lot. Thats all the LANGUAGE you need. None of this flicking hair, standing close and touching nonsense. It might work on a few guys, but if you want to know....Be direct and be VOCAL. IP: Logged |
Lara
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From: London
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted September 02, 2008 05:40 PM
mercury stops significators conjuncting as how I read it.
Saturn stops sun/moon conjuncting...
Hmmm 6th is his 12th.
His mind is Saturn ruling his 3rd and conjunct his sun in his 11th, house of friends.
I'm loathe to say it's not reciprocated... Hope I'm wrong though IP: Logged |
meta_4
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posted September 02, 2008 06:06 PM
Ewwwww!Who would ever be attracted to DARK DREAMER??? She smells funny.. and she likes Jude Law. Not good signs!  IP: Logged |
blue moon
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posted September 02, 2008 06:51 PM
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None of this flicking hair, standing close and touching nonsense. It might work on a few guys, but if you want to know....Be direct and be VOCAL.
Couldn't agree more, most men are fair to basic to work anything like that out. If you are angling for a very posh English type man,particulary if he has been to a public school, something extremely blunt and graphic will shock him and chances are you will get what you are after. But if they are more working class, say a builder from Dudley, saying "do you fancy a ...." is unlikely to work so well. True life example, this is a friend of mine, he was quite disgusted. It wasn't me who said this though, I would opt for something far more subtle for a blue-collar Piscean. But why would anyone want an Englishman anyway? I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole.
Anyway, DD, as we were saying, some stuff on body langauge on it's way. IP: Logged |
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posted September 02, 2008 06:53 PM
Yeah, foreigners are better. All in the accent!IP: Logged |
blue moon
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posted September 02, 2008 06:56 PM
My speaking accent is glass-cutting Wolvo so is best directed towards the unknowing. Besides which working-class English men are not easy enough targets. Anyway, body language. Just some ideas off the cuff: * If he keeps giving you funny looks and you can't work out why, the answer could be that this is him trying not to be obvious. This has happened to me a couple of times and I was quite slow working it out. * If he makes lots of eye contact, and maybe he looks away after you return his look, this could be a clue. Try eye contact and see what he does. * Men can't do the quick checking someone out thing subtley. So if you keep alert you might notice his eyes looking you up and down. * If he seems like he is really interested in your keen observations, that could be a clue. * Body space ~ is he moving closer into your personal zone?
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From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain
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posted September 02, 2008 07:30 PM
Oh good BM isn't in the competition for JT. Now I just need to keep that tenacious Lara away. IP: Logged |
blue moon
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posted September 02, 2008 07:56 PM
JT?p.s I have a copy of Allan and Barbara Pease "the Definitive Book of Body Language" ~ in it they say men who are interested in a woman will draw attention to their gentlemanly areas, maybe by adjusting their trousers (pants?). Or adjusting their ties ~ not helpful if they aren't wearing a tie. When I was a teenager my friend said if a man is interested in a woman he will make excuses to try and touch her in little ways ~ in fact this friend is gay. When I was young I had a few gay friends who didn't really know it yet. There was something in the appraisal that was aesthetic and comments like: you shouldn't wear a black bra with a white top, you know. A straight man would look repulsed or show some gut reaction. My brother (we were very close as kids) would be like to get cross and say: wear some decent underwear, if you can't afford it, I will buy some for you. Of course being a bit hopeless with all things satorial has given me some big clues here. When I met my husband I was flattered by his rapt interest in my sharp insights into the literary career of Norman Mailer. He was trying to work out if I was wearing underwear because it didn't look like I was wearing a bra. Men, eh. Baboons in suits. IP: Logged |
Kick It
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posted September 02, 2008 08:02 PM
White top, black (or no) bra works for me.
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posted September 02, 2008 08:05 PM
BM's pretty cluey on things. Staring and looking up and down is a good one. Looking up and down and then ending at your mammary glands is a good one. If the man is (unfortunately) a smoker, lighting up smoking heaps in front of you is a good one. His body mimicking yours as well. If you have a horny guy on your case, then play with his tie I say.EDIT - lip licking, look for lip licking and placing objects near the mouth (thats what the ciggy thing is about).
Example: JT the dirty old man
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Kick It
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posted September 02, 2008 08:08 PM
Erection is another good one. Just to lower the tone.IP: Logged |
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posted September 02, 2008 08:09 PM
Kick - pigeoned jockeys curse thy deeper wit....IP: Logged |
blue moon
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posted September 02, 2008 08:14 PM
A while back this guy I work with was sitting next to me (at the bar) and was inching a bit close, giving me searching looks and asking nosey questions. Having a husband and two kids didn't put off the sleaze-machine. But when I told him I had two university degrees he inched away. But heh, this is England. It won't work everywhere.
p.s If you are standing close enough to know he has an erection chances are you already have your answer.
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From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain
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posted September 02, 2008 08:18 PM
Interesting about the nosey questions. I had one guy ask my birthdate in front of all our work colleagues at morning tea once, of course, I was stupid and didn't tell him and played him off. Then he demanded to know how old I was after that. Then I turned away and saw him absolutely staring at me with his sco rising eyes. That was the start of my troubles...now in hindsight it was obvious what it meant at the time it was confusing, ah, those were my salad green days of youth. IP: Logged |
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posted September 02, 2008 08:21 PM
...and BM, that's pretty low (what you attracted there). Its that sco rising of yours. IP: Logged |
blue moon
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posted September 02, 2008 08:23 PM
This guy asked if I had a boyfriend. At the bar I said drinking out of a pint glass is a sign of an edcuated woman, you've been to university. That's why he asked. Sucker. IP: Logged |
meta_4
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posted September 02, 2008 08:23 PM
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But why would anyone want an Englishman anyway? I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole.
*raises hand cautiously* ... i want an Englishman... *looks around* *more cricket chirping* *gulp* Who would want a yucky American? Big and brawny and as dumb as a toothpick? Where is the fun in that? Where is the challenge? The passion? THE INTERNAL STRUGGLE?! American men know nothing of those matters! You'd be better off marrying your finger! At least it won't sleep with the next door neighbor!
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blue moon
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posted September 02, 2008 08:25 PM
A posh one like Rafe is O.K, love, you'll be alright there. Just ask him straight out for sex, he will think it incumbent upon him as an English gentleman to oblige. Look at the air hostess, canny lass. Unless her story about thinking he loved her and all that tripe wasn't just for the papers. Though probably it was. And make sure to mention work other than the English Patient. Something recent and preferably obscure. Or he will get @rsey. IP: Logged |
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From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain
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posted September 02, 2008 08:26 PM
yeah a posh, witty and slightly frigid Englishman, something like Mr Darcy. A horror story would be a beer bellied balding one that got in the way of the darts on the pub wall. I've seen both down here....IP: Logged |
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