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venusmars
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posted September 28, 2008 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message
Hi all..
Im asking to everyone of course there are many knowflakes here who are very good at synastry.I wanna hear especially from DD since shes good at draconics as well..

Maybe you remember my last relationship that ended last month.Im in a new relationship right now but I have to admit I couldnt forget that guy yet.
I cant understand why this has ended this way astrologically as well.Thats why Im asking you to help me.
If you have time can you interpret our synastry and draconics please
He hurt me deeply and we are not talking, we dont even say hello to eachother when we see eachother somewhere.This disturbs me.Ive never been in such a position like that before and astrologically this situation should not be happenning.Why is it happening I mean relationships over but this one is cruel and I dont see any cruelty in our synastry and composite maybe draconic may explain this..

Unfortunately his exact birth time is unknown but it is in the afternoon so I wont give asc.aspects.

All aspects are maximum 5 deg.orb

Im a libra with sagie moon
He is a leo with taurus moon.

SYNASTRY (SOFT ASPECTS)

Him Me

sun sext sun

sun sext venus

sun sext mars

sun trine moon

moon sext saturn

ven sext ven

ven trine moon

mars trine mercury

merc sext pluto

merc trine neptune

mars trine jupiter

jup trine moon

jup sext venus

jup sext mars

sat sext sat

uranus trine sat

neptune sex venus

ven trine chiron

jup trine chi

sun trine chi

chi sext sat

NN sext merc


HARD ASPECTS

Me Him


merc squ merc

ven conj pluto

moon conj neptune

pluto squ mars

sat squ plu

nep squ sat

jup oppose NN

NN squ sat

NN squ NN


ASTEROIDS(max 1,5 orb)

ME HIM

venus trine juno

juno trine mars

sun conj cupido

amor conj valentine

lillith oppose venus

moon conj sappho

eros trine eros

sun trine eros

mars trine eros

merc squ psyche

psyche oppose merc

karma conj juno

mars conj DNA

ceres conj chiron

moon conj siva

kaali oppose siva

sun trine pallas

mars trine pallas

sat conj wisdom

sun conj sekhmet

COMPOSITE

sun conj venus

sun conj mercury

venus conj mercury

mars oppose moon

jup trine sun

jup square mars

jup trine venus

jup trine mercury

sat square uranus

sat trine neptune

sat sext pluto

nep squ merc

nep squ ven

nep squ moon

nep sext plu

chi sext moon

chi trine mars

plu biquint moon

ura semisqu sun

ura semisqu mer

plu semisqu mars

plu sesqui jup

chi sesqui ven


MIDPOINTS

ME HIM

SUN/MOON squ SUN

SUN/JUP oppose MARS

SUN/SAT conj NN

SUN/NEP oppose MOON

SUN/NEP conj URANUS


HIM ME

SUN/NEP conj VENUS

VEN/MARS square MARS

VEN/MARS squ SUN

JUP/NEP conj VENUS

DRACONICS

draco me draco him orb

moon squ nep 2

moon trine moon 2

ven sext moon 1

mars sext moon 3.5

chi trine moon 1

moon sext uran 3

merc conj merc 1

jup sext merc 2

ven sext saturn 5

ven squ pluto 2

sat trine ven 2

mars squ plu 4

plu conj mars 1

nep sext mars 2

sat oppose plu 1

sat trine nep 2

ven sext ura 2

moon sext ura 2

chi sext ura 2



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darkdreamer
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posted September 28, 2008 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Can you post your exact birthdates?

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venusmars
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posted September 28, 2008 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message
Draco him Tropical me


sun conj jup

sun trine merc

moon conj nep

moon conj NN

moon sex pluto

merc trine sun

merc trine mars

merc trine uranus

merc sext moon

ven conj jup

mars squ sun

mars squ mars

mars squ ven

mars squ uranus

mars squ chiron

jup conj jup

jup trine merc

sat oppose plu

chi conj nep

sat trine nep

ura trine plu

ura oppose nep

nep squ plu

plu oppose merc

plu sext jup

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venusmars
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posted September 28, 2008 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message
Hi DD

ME 20.10.1974 2.25AM

HiM 14.08.1979 afternoon

Thanks

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posted September 28, 2008 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message
possibly saggie asc..

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posted September 28, 2008 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message
aggh sorry forgot the birth places
both ankara Turkey

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posted September 28, 2008 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message
anyone???

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posted September 28, 2008 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusdeindia     Edit/Delete Message
i dont have anything astrological, but i do have some help that is tried and tested.

http://expansions.com/ArticleTemplates/ArticleTemplate.cfm?ID=157
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/003075.html


hope u try it, it helped me come back from near manic depression .

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posted September 29, 2008 04:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks venus
I will try it..

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posted September 29, 2008 04:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry, I am a bit busy right now. But I will look into it later today.

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posted September 29, 2008 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks DD Im looking forward to see it...

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posted September 29, 2008 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I had a look at your synastry and I don`t think it`s a very strong one. It`s not a horrible one either. But there are some things that could be difficult.

Your Sun and Moon and his Sun is well matched. But your Sun doesn`t have any strong close aspects to his planets, so there is that vital part about you that he just doesn`t get.

Also his MOon in Taurus doesn`t match to any of your personal planets. So I guess, if it`s going deeper and more personal, you don`t relate very well to each other.
On top of that his Moon and Venus are included in a pretty challenging constellation.
HIs Moon opposes his Uranus and all of that squares his stellium of Sun, Venus and Jupiter.

I guess, his Venus liked your planets very much, but his Moon didn`t. IT also means that relationships, especially to women, are mostly a touchy or difficult subject. It`s like he can either have a romantic partner (Venus) or a marriage partner (Moon).


His Mars, an important part of his masculine self, doesn`t match your planets either. Actually Cancer doesn`t get along too well with all these Libra-planets. His Mars doesn`t have close strong ties to your planets, so you don`t get him on that level either.

Also, your Mercurie`s are square each other: Scorpio vs Leo. That might be a reason for the complete break down of communication. Both signs can sulk a lot and if they get hurt, they might try to get back at that person and be a tad cruel to each other.


Synastry wise:

I think it`s interesting that there are no aspects to the ruler of your 7th or 1st house, which usually happens in a relationship.

The ruler of your 5th house is widely trine his Mars though (but it is a pretty wide aspect) and it is exactly conjunct his SN. Maybe there has been a past life love affair.

I don`t know anything about his rulers of course.


On the good side your Moon trines his Sun, Venus, Jupiter and conjunct his Neptune (which is not always that good).

Your Venus sextile his Sun, Venus, Jupiter and Neptune.

Your Mars sextile his Sun.

All these aspects are nice, but trines and sextiles are not so much attracting factors or binding aspects. They can give some basic compatibility and ease and harmony (which you need), but there are too few sparking aspects.

Also, your NN squares his Saturn and NN.
NN square NN can be translated as: "Your life paths are at odds whith each other." Maybe you just don`t have the same path to follow, especially with Saturn blocking your NN.

His SN conjunct your Jupiter could indicate that you have been a positive influence in a past life for him, maybe a teacher, a doctor, a nice uncle, a priest, a person he trusted.


But the strong aspects, who are a focus of the synastry, are always conjunctions and oppositions. And you do not have a lot in the normal synastry.

You have

your Moon conjunct his Neptune
your Moon opposite his Juno
your Jupiter conjunct his SN
your Karma conjunct his Juno
your Psyche conjunct his Psyche

Maybe that implies a past life marriage or relationship. But that Moon-Neptune-link can either be seen as very spiritual and unconditionally loving or there is the risk of betrayal, deception and illusions (his Stellium of Sun, Venus and Jupiter also falls into your 12th house, and I think his Mercury, also, which would emphasize that).

I`m gonna add the Draco later on.

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posted September 29, 2008 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message
DD Thank you so much for spending much time for my question.
You are very good at interpreting synastry and it is accurate as well.
Hope Im not asking too much.
And yes the most interesting part for me is draconics I am waiting for that one impatiently.

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posted September 29, 2008 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message
DD You wrote;

I guess, his Venus liked your planets very much, but his Moon didn`t. IT also means that relationships, especially to women, are mostly a touchy or difficult subject. It`s like he can either have a romantic partner (Venus) or a marriage partner (Moon).

He didnt take me and our relationship seriously.He never wanted to marry me he didnt think a long commited relationship with me.He only wanted a fun relationship based on sex.
Now I understand why..
As you said, his venus liked me but I couldnt reach his moon part.

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posted September 29, 2008 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, that is exactly what I wanted to say, you unfortunately couldn`t reach his Moon-part.

But I was maybe a bit too negative above. The trines between personal planets are actually really nice aspects. It`s just I believe you need a hook or trigger for a strong relationship to start and build on, and imo there should be at least one ortwo conjunctions or oppositions between important planets, angles or houserulers.


For the Draconic I have found:

Draco - Draco (your planets first)

Moon conjunct Union
Mercury conjunct MErcury
Saturn opposite Pluto
Pluto conjunct Mars
Vertex conjunct Pluto
Karma opposite Union
Destinn opposite Pluto
IC conjunct sun
IC conjunct Jupiter
MC conjunct Eros

Draco - Tropical

Sun opposite Venus
Sun opposite Karma and Destinn
Mars opposite Karma and Destinn
Uranus opposite Karma and Destinn
Chiron opposite Psyche
Valentine conjunct Eros
Eros conjunct Pluto
Juno conjunct juno
DC conjunct Neptune
DC conjunct Juno


Tropical - Draco

Sun opposite Valentine
Mercury opposite pluto
Venus opposite Valentine
Mars opposite Valentine
NEptune conjunct Moon
Neptune opposite Uranus
NEptune conjunct Chiron
Pluto oposite Saturn
Pluto copposite Union
NN conjunct MOon
SN conjunct Uranus
Chiron conjunct Valentine
Vertex conjunct Mars
VAlentine Opposite Pluto
Union opposite Union
Juno conjunct Karma and Destinn
DSC conjunct Psyche


All t hese Juno-aspects may imply that you have been married in a previous life.

His Juno and Neptune on your DSC sais that you see in him a natural partner, some sort of dream guy, but you have to be very careful, as Neptune is also an elusive and misleading one.

I also noticed some darker or more challenging connections, especially the Saturn-Pluto and the Mars-Pluto-ones. Those could very well lead you to be kinda cruel to each other.


Also, if I looke at the asteroid aspects in tropical his Eros is mostly triggered; I guess it makes sense he was mainly sexually attracted to you.

Also that connection of his Uranus to your Neptune and SN, may imply that he had been running away even in a previous life. Uranus can provide you with some sparks, but often it just means someone will not commit, will be unreliable and is only in for the excitement.

Unfortunately t hat is even a big natal theme for him, with all these Uranus aspects to his love planets. He just doesn`t want to be tied down and is really scared of commitment, but on the other hand shows his MOon in Taurus that he needs to settle down with someone for his emotional needs to be fulfilled.

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posted September 29, 2008 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message
I dont know how to thank you DD.
Youre the best..

I was aware that commitment is a big issue for that guy and I know what our relationship was about.
But I was hoping to build a deep connection with him because my chart also contains many uranian energies especially those libra conjunctions as you noticed of course.Unfortunately it didnt happen.
And o.k things like this happens,not a big surprise for me,but this mutual ignoring thing is killing me because its nonsense,and I found no astro explanation for that.
Our draconic contains some cruelty I guess and in this life we have mercury square mercury.

As a person with libra stellium huffing someone disturbs me but there is nothing to do.I will get used to it.

Thanks again DD,you helped a lot..
Have a nice evening..

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posted October 01, 2008 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message
I want to add one more thing.
I read couple of posts about lilith synastry.
We dont have good aspects there either..
My lilith opposes his venus in exact degree and squares his moon.
Since I am investigating the hurtful side, the cruel side of this relationship maybe lilith played a part also..
we also have his pluto conjunct my venus in 4 degree, a bit wide but we may count it as its a conjunction.

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