posted October 09, 2008 07:02 AM              

There is written that young boy or girl can be old soul, as also older people can be young soul. How to know that? Is that seen in Natal Chart?

posted October 09, 2008 09:33 AM            

I did have an idea on 'how to know' in the other thread.
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What I find funny about this thread is that it reminds me of teenagers vs. adults. Kids and teenagers can't wait to grow up. They want to appear as mature as possible and do grown-up things. If you called a teenager "mature for his or her age", they would take it as a compliment.

Alternatively adults and elderly people like compliments such as "you look youthful" or "you're young at heart". If you said to a 40 year old person "you're so mature for your age", they wouldn't feel very complimented lol

So that makes me think.. if there really were young and old souls (which I can't say I believe) - the people who would want to be old souls most, and get offended if someone tells them otherwise, might just be young souls

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posted October 09, 2008 09:39 AM            

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How to know that?

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I don't believe you can. There is no time in soul-world. I think souls are timeless.

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Is that seen in Natal Chart?

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posted October 14, 2008 03:15 AM              

I think that old soul has someone who had more lives in the past.

posted October 14, 2008 03:36 AM              

"I once read that the more retrograde planets you have in your chart, the older your soul is" - I am in the medium, have 2 retrograde planets.

"A young soul still has to go through many other incarnations, as far as I know (and that is not much regarding incarnation theory)"

"young soul has many planets in the sign of Cancer and Leo"

posted October 14, 2008 06:47 AM            

He's got Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto retrograde with the Sun (chart ruler) and Moon (conjunction) opposite Saturn.

I've also noticed a connection when the ruler of the 1st, the Sun and/or Moon are in conjunction or opposition to the ruler of the 12th and/or 4th houses. This paired with Saturn, Nodal connections, and retrograde planets...

posted October 14, 2008 09:06 AM              

Until now I know that somebody has 6 retrograde planets what is more than enough. How can person live with 7 retrograde planets?

posted October 14, 2008 09:50 AM            

7 retrograde planets? Are you serious? That's gotta be tough for your boyfriend!

posted October 14, 2008 10:29 AM            

Here's his chart

He's very held back and restricted. The sweetest guy ever though, but with all his energy working in a "backwards" fashion...and he's a double Taurus with the Sun and Moon opposite Saturn, it is SO hard to get him to do anything. He refuses to take risks, he's very private, he's not very confident (despite his Leo rising and Sun trine Jupiter), extremely shy and reserved, far more mature than he "should" be, a very "late" bloomer socially, but financially and everywhere else he's doing all the things you don't think about until you're like 40+.

What's interesting is that he has 7 retrograde planets, and his father has five. His mother and sister have hardly any.

posted October 15, 2008 03:59 AM              

Sorry I was thinking that is you having 7 retrograde planets.
Without all that, he is Taurus and we (Taurus) are a bit slower than other people.

He has nice 5th and 9th house, what gives him more life. So many planets right from Meridian: normally such a person depends from other people.

posted October 15, 2008 06:24 PM            

Steve Gunn wrote :
If you’re an old soul you will undoubtedly be giving, caring loving and compassionate - all wonderful attributes that we are taught are the signs of a developed person who cares for others, and the actions that we take that may affect others.

The key signs of an old soul;

· Giving and caring often putting others first

· Had a difficult romantic life often with much pain and disappointment

· More than likely had a soulmate relationship

· Things just seem to happen to you and around you, often becoming very dramatic through the seemingly extreme reactions of others

· Events repeat themselves

· Have trouble connecting with your family

· Somehow know you’re different

· Have some psychic intuition and ‘just knowing’ things

· Find that you have deeper emotions and passions than most people

· People have extreme reactions to you – some just adore you and some seem to really dislike you yet you behave the same to everyone

· Have an inner creative passion

· Suffer lots of jealousy from others

· Often perceived wrongly

· Feel your don’t have much free will, like your life is being controlled by some outside force

· Often feel ‘stuck’ like events just keep on happening to you time after time

All of us can relate to some of these characteristics and events at some time in our lives however the ‘old souls’ amongst us will shout “Yes that’s me !”
and immediately understand and relate.

In contrast, we have all met the ‘young souls’ the ones who profess to be giving and caring and often seem to seek us out, but who never really give, just take, and who then commit the most insensitive and often cruel acts but seem to have no understanding of what they’ve done or any sign of remorse whatsoever. In fact they can often go to such extremes to get very aggressive when we point out their actions and the effect that they’ve had on us.."

When I first read this I was like God! This is sooooo true! Its amazing how much s#$% I have put with from such an early age not to mention this inner drive I have to create something that I still can't put into words even at 30, lol the manifestations of it are pretty interesting to look at though.. It makes me feel tired and old to think about it all,.. lol