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Lara
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posted October 16, 2008 06:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
l can't live without them, can you?

what placements or signs do you think shows that you can or can't

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MoonPixie
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posted October 16, 2008 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonPixie     Edit/Delete Message
well i definitely can't stand other women, so i suppose i have no other choice but to live with the alternative lol

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Lara
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posted October 16, 2008 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
i am the same Moonpixie - what makes you not stand other women?

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PeaceAngel
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posted October 16, 2008 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
Really? Sorry to go off-thread. I don't get that. I'd really love to understand that.

I can understand when women are threatened by the presence of another woman when it comes to men or love, or even sex. But as a generalisation, that's fascinating to me.

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Lara
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posted October 16, 2008 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
oh i'm not threatened... l have some great female friends but l can't stand all the girlie magazines, girlie lunches, the talk of hair and beauty, the men chat and all the pink clothing

LOL

maybe i'm a tomboy

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PeaceAngel
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posted October 16, 2008 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
Okay - I get that. I'm a tomboy too. But when it comes to a man, I can be as feminine as it gets. I don't mean dressing up for attention of any man, I mean specifically for the person who means something to me.

I don't know if I can live without a man. I've always had one. It's one of those things I kind of think about and wish I'd tried.

I have a lot of Aries plus Aqua Moon, so I'm quite independent in nature and character, so I would say I could live without a man. I've just never done that.

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Lara
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posted October 16, 2008 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, l dig you Peace... l have pretty much always had a man in my life - sometimes living together, sometimes not.

It's harder with kids, yet l like the freedom l get with not living together because l think my aries stellium attracts the intensity and yet not sure l want such intensity at home!!

I think i prefer the passion coupled with a mentally stimulating interraction in day to day life.

How is your aqua moon for you? Do you have aries sun?
I'm wondering how the aquarius "dont come near me" plays out with your sun. Have you checked the top thread on "twinsouls" section of LL?

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PeaceAngel
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posted October 16, 2008 06:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
I have a lot of Aries. Aries Sun, Mercury, Venus, Chiron & Ascendant. Plus the Aqua Moon. I need A LOT of personal space. I need a lot of freedom, but I give it in return. I always attract possessive, jealous men though.

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Lara
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posted October 16, 2008 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
wow

we are so similar on the aries front... and l have aqua DC!

Yes, i need a LOT of space too and l give back. Im not possessive yet l demand loyalty - must be my leo AC and taurus sun!

So, may l ask you - do you prefer casual relationships or more committed ones.. im asking cos im seeing a leo/sun, aqua/moon, leo/venus, aqua/mars guy and it's great but it's a little too FREE! lol

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PeaceAngel
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posted October 16, 2008 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
I like commitment. It makes me feel secure. My Mars is in Taurus. I'm all or nothing. But I need a lot of space and freedom within that. Someone who's questioning why I was five minutes late bugs me. But, then again, I like really protective men. So at the same time, someone who's going to come looking for me after I'm missing 5 minutes appeals. Ah, what do you do!

I suppose the true answer to your question is "can't live with them, can't live without them".

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Lara
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posted October 16, 2008 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
LOL

hahahaha your post did make me laugh cos i'm the same...
had to be nit picked and yet secretly love it lol

I'm also Mars/Taurus *sigh*

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PeaceAngel
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posted October 16, 2008 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
I think the thing is that when you need a lot of freedom, you also need some discipline and as long the partner is in check and has the best interests of the relationship at heart, then you can trust them, but if they are a control freak or self-serving, it's different. But I'm hard to discipline. I'm not one to be told what to do. So I'm kind of my own worst enemy there.

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posted October 16, 2008 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonPixie     Edit/Delete Message
lol, i only jest!

i don't hate *all* women, but i have to be honest and say that i get along far better with men than i do most females. i have REALLY bad luck finding genuine female friends.

growing up, my mother was cruel to me (still is) and i was teased relentlessly by the girls in my grade from as far back as i remember until freshman-sophomore year of high school. i remember in the 8th grade this one girl (she's a day older than me actually) put tape and gum in my hair when i wasn't looking. when i got upset and cried, she also started flicking rolled up tape at me and told me to "do something about it". at the time, my confidence was non-existent so i just sat there and cried. my teacher never noticed any of it, either. he was always on his computer. a few months later he was arrested for child molestation, actually... he was caught when police were given a lead and they searched his computer at school and found AIM conversations he had had with a 13 year old. anyways, i digress. a boy named chris stood up for me when he saw me crying and switched spots with me so he'd sit with the girl table and i sat with his male friends who weren't jumping up and down to hang out with me but at least they weren't cruel in any way.

since then, i've always gravitate towards men more. i feel a sense of physical and emotional safety with them and i know its because i've just had really rotten luck when it comes to females in my life. there was this one virgo girl i knew . we don't talk anymore because she kinda just dropped off the face of the earth, but she really saved me in junior high. i would hang out with her group of friends but they were only nice to me because of her and so i never got especially close to them. she always defended me and called me all the time to make sure i was ok because my home life was a complete mess. it was weird for me growing up: i didn't want to go home to my mother but i didn't want to be at school with all these kids making fun of me. it was hard...

in high school, my solid friends were male and in either AV or theatre. i was ALWAYS in the theatre for the play and musical and i never saw the girls who made fun of me in junior high because our high school is enormous. but i did spend a lot of time with the actresses and it went one way or another really. i was mainly a floater. i really can't say much about high school because i mostly had a wonderful time until senior year. what was the quote from little miss sunshine again?

Frank: Yeah. French writer. Total loser. Never had a real job. Unrequited love affairs. Gay. Spent 20 years writing a book almost no one reads. But he's also probably the greatest writer since Shakespeare. Anyway, he uh... he gets down to the end of his life, and he looks back and decides that all those years he suffered, Those were the best years of his life, 'cause they made him who he was. All those years he was happy? You know, total waste. Didn't learn a thing. So, if you sleep until you're 18... Ah, think of the suffering you're gonna miss. I mean high school? High school-those are your prime suffering years. You don't get better suffering than that.

my group of friends now are predominantly male. there's a leo, aquarius, and cancer girl who i hang out with and we're really close. i think as i've gotten older i've learned to be less defensive but i dunno... i've always been so much more emotionally close to men than women.

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posted October 16, 2008 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
I find the dynamic with men friends different. I've had close male friends but it's just not the same. Somewhere in there from one side someone will just become that romantically or sexually inclined or, at least, curious. In my early 20's I had a male best friend who was a Sagi and he was very unfaithful to his girlfriends. In my loyalty to him I never said a word to any of his girls. Now I think about that and wonder whether, as a woman, that was the right thing. As a friend, sure, but as a woman. We should have this loyalty with each other.

I'm not convinced that men and women can be just friends. The romance or sex creeps in from somewhere. And there are some women who are just threatened by the presence of other women, I've seen it - but just don't get it. I wonder if it's over competition for men?

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posted October 16, 2008 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonPixie     Edit/Delete Message
i also forgot to mention that im the only girl in my family (i have one brother), there are no girls in the neighborhood i grew up in and always played in the woods with the boys down the street, and my favorite person in the whole world is my father...

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posted October 16, 2008 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
MoonPixie

That explains it then - you are just more accustomed to being around men/boys. It's conditioning more than anything. I'm an only child - at first I was equally uncomfortable with both sexes, but now I'm just as comfortable with everyone and anyone. I think it has to do with being more at ease with myself.

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blue moon
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posted October 16, 2008 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
I'm more the take it or leave it type.

I've got a Taurus stellium in the 7th house including Venus, the Sun is there too in Gemini. But that Sun is part of a Grand Trine with Uranus and Aqua Mars. The Moon 9* applying to Uranus.

Human beings are contradictory though, aren't they?

I don't think I'd like a 9 to 5 husband. Mine works away from home a lot. He's an Aquarian with Taurus Moon Trine Uranus. Think I did quite well for myself, astrologically speaking, though it wasn't till a long time into the relationship I thought to take a look at a synastry chart but now it all makes sense.

In another life I would have married a sailor.

If you're asking if I prefer men to women I'd get on with both, but on the whole I tend to get on a lot better with men, mainly because I have a masculine personality. Or so I've been told.

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posted October 16, 2008 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
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Funny thing about the 9 to 5 husband. As someone who needs a lot of space, I shouldn't want that. But he works night shift, which means, when he's going to work, the kids are coming home from school. So I never have time to myself. Which is what I really desperately need.

In my next lifetime I should remain single and have many many lovers. Something that my personality in this lifetime is suited to. It fits my chart.

Interesting about Mars, Uranus and Aries. My Aries Ascendant is opposite Uranus.

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posted October 16, 2008 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe the answer is to having committed casual relationships. Like, one person for one thing and someone else for something else and a couple for sex. Permanent arrangements - just multiple people filling different parts of your life. So you have the freedom and the commitment/sense of security.

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posted October 16, 2008 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for buena36     Edit/Delete Message
My opinion is:

After somebody meets ideal partner and loses him (her) from some reason, then is difficult to have another man.
I think that most of us have one really love and all other are only copies.

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PeaceAngel
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posted October 16, 2008 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
buena

That's really interesting. I'm not sure if there is just one person for each of us. I think there are people for us at the perfect time. So when someone exits it makes space for someone else bringing in something new. Not to replace people - but to create and learn something new and grow in a way that you can only with them.

I wholeheartedly believe in soulmates, but I also believe in the value of Earth mates. I think sometimes people are so busy looking for this "one" person that they miss opportunities for love and happiness because of minor details or blind siding.

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posted October 16, 2008 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for buena36     Edit/Delete Message
Hi PA,

-wholeheartedly believe in soulmates, but I also believe in the value of Earth mates. I think sometimes people are so busy looking for this "one" person that they miss opportunities for love and happiness because of minor details or blind siding.-

We all are different. After I have lost "my Karma" any man coming to me was not "him". That is also reason that I became more and more sick. My sickness is not dangerous but boring and blocks all in my life.

I am thinking about that: to write a book about relationships and all other bad and good in the life and post the Charts there. I have never seen something like that but could be very interesting.

Wish you nice evening,
Buena

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Lara
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posted October 16, 2008 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
yeah, l now just have lovers lol

l miss the waking up in the morning with a man all the time though - but equally l like sometimes to fall asleep alone!

I think a casual yet committed lover is the best. My lover and l are only with each other and yet we don't hassle each other. I rarely contact him and we just come and go in each other's lives as we please... only think is, feelings DO come into it after a while and l am finding that aspect hard now.

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posted October 16, 2008 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Men. Tsk Tsk Tsk

*shakes head in utter confusion and asks god, "you came up with that as well? Where's the consistency in your work, dude?"*

Venus square Uranus.

I'm fair so, the same goes for women. They aren't threatening. They are irritating and they drive me nuts with their squealing, air kisses, and mindless talk of make up, fantasy weddings with phantom husbands and yes, those dreaded gossip-saturated brunches.

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Lara
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posted October 16, 2008 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
haha Unmoved

Those brunches are worse for your health than saturated fat

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