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posted November 16, 2008 05:05 PM         

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What could make two people be very attracted and drawn to each other yet intimidated or "scared" of each other when together? Let's say these people can talk very easily over the phone, internet, etc but in person they are more reserved..there is tension there. What do you think could point to this in synastry?

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posted November 16, 2008 05:10 PM         

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BML contacts or hard Mars-Saturn aspects. Saturn is scared of and shocked by Mars and will belittle Mars because of it.

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posted November 16, 2008 05:13 PM         

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What about challenging Pluto-aspects? Couldn`t they trigger a feeling of attractiona nd yet being scare`d?

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posted November 16, 2008 05:39 PM         

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Oh, I had this with someone. We were both this way! The only aspect that I remember from our synastry was his moon on my SN, exactly. He also put a lot of planets in my 12th house.

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posted November 16, 2008 08:54 PM         

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Could an exact Venus square Pluto aspect play part in this?

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posted November 16, 2008 09:19 PM         

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noticed this with composite venus square saturn: they both feel that they're going to be rejected by the other, so there's reserve there. i guess moon sq saturn in composite would be somewhat similar, but with the rejection being emotional and not romantic attraction-based

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posted November 16, 2008 09:36 PM         

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This happened with someone I used to be closer with also.

I always attributed it to the moon. My moon is Gemini, his was Scorpio. I always thought if two people have a quincunx aspect between moons, there would be tension in showing how you feel.

Plus Risings as well. The way you express yourself at home rules more of the moon, the moon is ruled by domestic life, emotions, etc. Outside the home, the risings take more precedence.

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posted November 16, 2008 10:04 PM         

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I'd say it's simple passion. That's always the way it is at the start. Once you get together and are more physical with one another that awkwardness will be broken.

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posted November 16, 2008 10:07 PM         

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yes! That makes perfect sense AG

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posted November 16, 2008 10:28 PM         

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What do you suggest they do in this situation..I'm the girl , shall I launch myself at him?

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posted November 16, 2008 10:34 PM         

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Augentier, If it's any consolation l have this and i'm 3 months into a casual relationship with someone!

I think it just must still be so overwhelming for us. I just flow with it and let it be

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posted November 16, 2008 11:14 PM         

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stephen arroyo talks about this with saturn contacts. how the saturn person wants to run away at first because he feels he OWES the other and that is scary...and if there are two-way saturn aspects it would definitely affect both - maybe even when there's just one such aspect. i think if you sense karma to be worked out there could definitely be ambivalent feelings when you're attracted...what is the hidden price??

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posted November 16, 2008 11:51 PM         

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I think nodal contacts can cause this. My sister had her DC conjunct her husband's north node and she knew from the start, when she first laid eyes on him, that he was to be her future husband. Needless to say, she wasn't attracted to him at the time and was terrified by her sudden revelation. Their south and north nodes are both conjunct as well.

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posted November 17, 2008 03:27 AM         

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harsh venus-saturn aspects in synastry and in composite.

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posted November 17, 2008 03:36 AM         

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yin yang. were the south nodes conjunct the north nodes or was it south node conjunct south node and north node conjunct north node?

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posted November 17, 2008 03:45 AM         

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south node conjunct south node
north node conjunct north node

in different houses, though.

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posted November 17, 2008 04:37 AM         

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Actually on second look, it is quite possible that my guy and l both have our NN's on the others DC.

That would totally explain our behaviour around each other l think.

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posted November 17, 2008 05:04 AM         

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Everyone is different, but if that happened to me, I would think something was lacking, not that it is the natural forerunner of a passionate affair. But I would say that, wouldn't I? I am a Gemini with Mercury in the 7th house.

Synastry is made up of two natal charts so there would be the first place I would look. A chart indicating a private and serious individual would make sense that they might be a little reserved on a first live meeting with someone they normally speak to on the 'net.

But overall I agree with katatonic's Saturn suggestion. 23 mentions Mars/Saturn mention, maybe Mercury/Saturn. Communication works well enough in a controlled envirnoment, but let loose it doesn't know what to do.

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posted November 17, 2008 07:10 AM         

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Probably some qiuncunxs in there somewhere, maybe a moon-moon, moon-mars, moon-Saturn, Venus-moon, venus-Saturn quincunx.

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posted November 17, 2008 07:25 AM         

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i have hard mars/saturn with someone.
i am mars and i am afraid of saturn.

Is saturn really afraid? they act as if they could care less most of the time.

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posted November 17, 2008 07:43 AM         

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Saturn can be the stone that sharpens Mars' blade. In a Trine, a Sextile or possibly even a Conjunction.

But the Square reminds me more of this:

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posted November 17, 2008 07:51 AM         

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Yes, Saturn is deeply afraid, but wouldn`t want to let mars see this.
Saturn usually tries desperately to hide how much others can affect him or her.

I have that with a friend of mine. Her Moon exactly squares my Saturn. All my defensive acting was only to cover up how much things she did or said really got to me.

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posted November 17, 2008 08:25 AM         

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wow-That adds a whole new perspective to saturn imo-They always act like the mature wet blanket-make me think i am foolish, and not living up to their standards-but being AFRAID of me-i don't know-if true-somewhat amusing. DEfinate reserve on my part because of my fear of being rejected by saturn. Maybe classic example of how synastry really works both ways-because of saturn being so austere i am afraid-but i would have no idea that saturn is afraid.
Therefore, both afraid of rejection.

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posted November 17, 2008 10:30 AM         

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What about Venus square Saturn in synastry ? Or Venus square Pluto?

I have this with someone - I'm the Venus,but not a scared one or otherwise intimidated, just sometimes frustrated by his possesivness.And irritated!

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posted November 17, 2008 11:20 AM         

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I'd say it's simple passion. That's always the way it is at the start. Once you get together and are more physical with one another that awkwardness will be broken.

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Spoken like a true Cap.LOL.

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