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taurean_scorpion
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posted December 05, 2008 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurean_scorpion     Edit/Delete Message
You're analyzing her. We all do it.
What is your big three FOL?

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Nightjar
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posted December 05, 2008 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nightjar     Edit/Delete Message
I guess what I was trying to say is that it bothers me that people(including you FOL) just seem to look at her like she was some kind of unusual aquarium fish all alone in her tank. And leave it at that.
Maybe you should try to befriend her rather than just observe. What's the worst thing that could happen?

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FistOfLegend
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posted December 05, 2008 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FistOfLegend     Edit/Delete Message
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sunshine_lion
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posted December 05, 2008 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
ok, mars, uranus, neptune and merc in 4th house, I believe she has had somewhat of a traumatic childhood, and might be wary of letting people in. mother and father problems both perhaps as saturn is square to moon in 5th, cusp of 4th. venus retro maybe feeling unloved and not getting the nurturing needed as a child. Earth in chart shows me she is very serious about things and has trust issues. Mother issues prominent perhaps alcholism or drug abuse. something she may be ashamed of. Not the girl that would be comfortable bringing friends home. She thinks before talking and decides against it. she is not at all frivolus, nor trusting, nor trusting of love..perhaps her mother was sick in some other way. she definatley had family upsets and disillusionment. I may be off, but this is what I see, I am not the BEST astrologer by any means, but theres my 2 cents. I think she is sad.

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sunshine_lion
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posted December 05, 2008 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
i would not be surprised if there has been abuse in her childhood.

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swirl-kitt
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posted December 05, 2008 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swirl-kitt     Edit/Delete Message
There are people like that, she is not the only one, but it's hard to stay that way forever ! Sooner or later people approach you whether you choose to be their friend or not and before you know it you're a part of one group of friends or another. So I'm guessing her expectations are high, she doesn't like making friends just for the sake of it. If she was so desperate to find someone to hang out with, I'm sure she could. Plus, I agree with whoever said she could be a career focused person.

Does she look sad ?

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sunshine_lion
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posted December 05, 2008 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
so much capricorn in her chart, she is very serious minded. Tends to make a person sad.

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FistOfLegend
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posted December 05, 2008 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FistOfLegend     Edit/Delete Message
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CoralFrequency
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posted December 05, 2008 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message
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There was this kid in school who used to always tease her. He would turn around, kind of testing her, asking her a zillion questions, but almost in a sadistic way. "Are you mute? Why don't you talk a lot? Why are you so quiet?" He knew she couldn't defend herself, and she would never fight back. Finally, one day I put my foot down and told him to stop. He just stared at me and smirked, then went back to his work. She was an easy target for as*holes.

lol "defending herself" or "fighting back", as you put it - would involve acknowledging that insect of a male exists.

A Capricorn influenced woman/girl does not acknowledge insects or trailer trash. She completely ignores them or steps all over them in her climb up the mountain.
Leo and Capricorn are similar in their avoidance of trailer trash, but Capricorn can truly turn to ice and pretend they're as good as dead. Don't confuse her choice to not defend herself, with an "inability" to defend herself.
Offcourse, she may be unable to defend herself - it's a possibility, but judging by her chart, this is very unlikely.

I realize I don't know this girl so you probably have more insight into her personality, but from her chart alone - if she is even slightly similar to me, she is far from being a helpless or defenceless girl in need of your protection.

I don't want to burst your bubble when it comes to her, so I'm sorry if that's what my posts sound like. But - not really sure how to put this..

Basically the sort of guy who would completely like this girl, wouldn't perceive weaknesses in her actions.

For example, I'd imagine a guy with Scorpio/Capricorn influence - watching the exact same event, the guy yelling at her, etc.. would think to himself "smart girl, she ignores jerks and doesn't give them the time of day, MY kind of girl"

On the other hand, witnessing that event, you thought: "awww poor defenceless little red riding hood. I should heroically step in and defend her, since she can't defend herself."

I'm not sure what your chart looks like, but there seems to be some mis-match happening between you two in synastry. You turn her strengths into weaknesses and criticize something - that I would personally praise.

Would you have really preferred that she engaged in some kind of argument with the moron yelling at her? Would you be attracted to the psycho-girl who makes a scene and yells and "fights back", whenever the random moron decides to insult her?
Because if that's what you are looking for, you've got the wrong girl.


I know some men (and not nearly as many women) who are completely dramatic and could not ignore an insult for the life of them. They really feel the need to get OUT there -- and fight back and it's all very "King Kong" like.. but that's not my style, thanks!

Capricorn Mars seldom wastes energy with things like that. Too "old"/mature, to notice things like - silly teen-girls bitching in high school or whatever.. I have never in my life cared, even slightly. I often mind my own business.
Capricorn as a sign (and she has a LOT of it) is very accepting of human nature and everything that comes with it. She expects people to be jerks, on occasion, in virtue of being human. I doubt that she is bothered by it. On the other hand, Capricorn - influenced people can also be extremely popular when they want to be - with the people they choose (usually there is an extra interest though).. they wouldn't befriend just anyone. I am guessing that from your Aqua girl's perspective - a majority of the girls at school fall under the "just anyone" category.

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Urania*
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posted December 06, 2008 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Urania*     Edit/Delete Message
This may sound completely irrelevant but I see on her chart that she was born January 31st? That date of birth gives the most charismatic, popular women from what I've seen. It's crazy, but I know 4 cases of women born on that date that are what you call blessed by good fortune. Beautiful, talented, extremely kind and fun people to be around. Not to mention lucky! And maybe that's not so rare but their talents and intelligence are not ordinary at all. They're very special somehow. So it makes me think that her personality being mysterious and all, is not so much that that drives people to want to know her, but the fact that they sense she's unique.

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posted December 06, 2008 04:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dazzled     Edit/Delete Message
Sun conjuncts her NN, her being, her essence and core personality is what will drive her destiny.

Interestingly, her Sun is almost unaspected except for the square with Pluto, which will make the aspect even more important in her chart.

Furthermore, Sun and NN trine her MC. Her profession will be her destiny and 'fated'.

I notice her Chiron is in Cancer. Family make be a source of wounding for her. With all those planets in the 4th house of the family and the inner sanctum, seems that there's a lot of upheavals, lack of security, much aggression in that area.

Cancer being the Opposite sign of Capricorn makes it all the more ironic. Would be interesting to see how she interacts with Cancer/Pisces people, their emotionality and compassion/empahty might just unlock some aspects of her personality.

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Nightjar
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posted December 06, 2008 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nightjar     Edit/Delete Message
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Don't confuse her choice to not defend herself, with an "inability" to defend herself.
Offcourse, she may be unable to defend herself - it's a possibility, but judging by her chart, this is very unlikely.

I realize I don't know this girl so you probably have more insight into her personality, but from her chart alone - if she is even slightly similar to me, she is far from being a helpless or defenceless girl in need of your protection.



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Coral is so much better at putting into words what I mean by you seeing her as a somehow inferior, defenseless being. This is exactly what I meant when I said your attitude irks me a bit.
I don't think she wants or should be completely alone and ignored all the time, that sounds bad, but your view on her is still a bit awkward and condescending. I know you mean well, but you should adjust your perspective. Judging from the chart she doesn't seem like someone fragile, withdrawn and in need of protection. She'd probably appreciate a friend though.

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FistOfLegend
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posted December 06, 2008 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FistOfLegend     Edit/Delete Message
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FistOfLegend
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posted December 06, 2008 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FistOfLegend     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm. Pluto is conjunct her Mars during transit now. I wonder what that means.

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Thethirdbenjamin
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posted December 06, 2008 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thethirdbenjamin     Edit/Delete Message
LoL,

This Topic sounds so Gemini,

Lets figure her out until it makes sense because it just doesn't add up. Vary Gemini like.

I'd be cautious because with a natal chart like that whouldn't she want to keep it to herself, unless your rally good friends with her.

I'm a air sign with a strong capricorn influence.

its not as strong as hers. But I can tell that she has a good idea what she wants and and where she wants to go, but were she is isn't the place for her.

I think I have a good idea how she feels, Gems and Aquas typically think on the same wave length.

I go throught almost the same thing she does, the only diffrence is I'm in college and you'd think a bunch of college kids whould act there age, nope not were I'am.

So I end up being alone half the time, not conecting with the other students.

I even said to my professor "this is a zoo, the students are the animals, and your the Zoo keeper".

But wait tell she's finish college you'll see were she goes.

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VirgOh
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posted December 06, 2008 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgOh     Edit/Delete Message
I love girls with a sad / worried / tired of it all / dont EF with me look on their face.

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Lara
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posted December 06, 2008 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I guess it depends on how hot you are Fist... as to whether you are gonna get this enigma of a beauty!

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rubi001
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posted December 06, 2008 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubi001     Edit/Delete Message
this is as simple as it gets-
her strong Cappie influence gives her the melancholy look.
it is well known that a lot of capricorn or even a single placement of it in the personal planets, gives people that look.

also it gives them a brooding nature.
she is probaly not thinking about anything special, but simply looks as if she is. and looks sad even when she isnt.
gift from capricorn.

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FistOfLegend
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posted December 06, 2008 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FistOfLegend     Edit/Delete Message
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Thethirdbenjamin
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posted December 06, 2008 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thethirdbenjamin     Edit/Delete Message
rubi001,

Does that mean my capircorn rising will make me look grouchy???.

Well my question is how deep is your friendship with her thats the only way to get to her what ever's bothering her.

It took me some time to get to that point with an Aqua that I'm good freinds with, she tells everything that bugs her and I'm the same back.

If that fails there's always facebook and myspace to get information from.

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rubi001
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posted December 06, 2008 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubi001     Edit/Delete Message
no my dear benjamin, it will not make you look grouchy at all.
simply you will tend to have an appearance of someone in deep thought, or a little sad.
or maybe just a very mature person, although as you get older you will begin to look younger.
Cap rising goes backwards. they look much more mature or older in younger years, and younger when they are old.


but it all depends on your other placements aswell.
this girl has a lot of Capricorn thats why this explains her sad look.

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FistOfLegend
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posted December 06, 2008 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FistOfLegend     Edit/Delete Message
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