posted December 12, 2008 03:26 AM         

Virgomask- interesting about neptune, because a guy I know has neptune in the 7th, venus in the 12th, and saturn in the 5th. totally idealizes love....waited a long time for sex.

posted December 12, 2008 09:04 AM         

Let's just say this lady over here doesn't do casual dating or hops from one bed to another. It's a waste of energy, emotions and time.

posted December 12, 2008 11:26 AM         

I never dated until I was 22 years old too.

I believe that it had a lot to do with shyness,insecurity which stemmed from my special education past connected to my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia(I kept it a secret from females because I was afraid to be rejected for being "special" in that inferior type of way) as well wanted that more prudish type

All my Scorpio planets(sexuality) aspect Saturn(discipline)

Sun in Scorpio quincunx Saturn
Mercury in Scorpio contraparallel Saturn
Venus in Scorpio contraparallel Saturn

I believe that those could be possible indicators for my hormonal imbalances (lower than average testosterone levels,high estrogen levels)
Saturn trine Pluto

I also wonder about my Moon in t-square to my Saturn-Neptune opposition which is also Moon oppose Saturn/Neptune midpoint

Saturn/Neptune - Confusion about what is and is not real. Fear, pessimism. Ascetism, extreme self-denial or denial of the physical for reasons of self-discipline. Often takes the form of chronic,non-infectious, or systemic ailments. The ability to bring dreams or ideals into concrete realization.

Moon/Saturn - feelings of loneliness. feeling cut off or alienated,not caring for or being cared for by anyone. inhibited feelings,feelings subject to discipline. somberness,sobriety,reserve. In woman's charts, can be a point of self-deprecation. In charts of either sex, can mean difficulties with the mother

Moon/Neptune - Extreme sensitivity and subjectivity to external influences. Tendency to self-sacrifice or martyrdom. Passivity. Escapism,fantasies,unconscious forces influencing the imagination. Illusions created by subconscious desires or energies that have their origin in the past.

Saturn is contraparallel my Venus-Neptune

therefore, I have Venus-Saturn-Neptune declinations.

Venus/Saturn - love or the desire for comfort being disciplined or restricted by practical considerations. Coldness,inability to express love,sexual repression,perversion of love. Art or creativity turned toward practical or commercial ends.

Venus/Neptune - the abstract ideal of the beautiful, the romantic ideal. artistic taste and creativity. romantic ideals in relationships,illusions about or in love (often leading to disappointment). Platonic love. love of people vastly better or worse off than oneself, including those who take care of one or need to be taken care of.

because of misfortune with women, I believe that I have a lot of negative karma with women that needs to be sorted out. My Moon happens to be quincunx Karma in Libra in 1st with 10 minutes of arc too. However, my Moon makes a trine to my 12th house ruler,Sun...so should be some positive female karma too.

I actually believe that aspects and midpoints reveal more than sign and house placements.

my Neptune square Venus/Midheaven - '17
I read that is an indicator of misfortune,idealism,romanticism in love,relationships

Venus/Midheaven - one's own love and happiness in relationships. One's own creativity and love of beauty. Admiration of the self. Often a sign of creativity in the arts.......so with Neptune aspecting it, it involves idealism,romanticism,inspiration,illusion,deception,imagination,confusion,mystical
(of course..I aim for the higher stuff as best as I can)

Mars square Venus/Neptune - '53
I went over the interp for Venus/Neptune already, but with Mars involved....assertion,passion are connected

Neptune semisquare Venus/Ascendant - '48

Venus/Ascendant - the ability to project attractiveness,to charm others. getting love from others. the ability to bring about close love relationships. the ability bring about compromise and harmony in the environment.
so with Neptune aspecting it, it involves idealism,romanticism,inspiration,illusion,deception,imagination,confusion,mystical
(of course..I aim for the higher stuff as best as I can)

Venus semisquare Neptune/Node - '38

Neptune/Node - confusing connections,connections whose nature is not clear,deceitful connections. connections with others for idealistic,spiritual,or religious purposes. connections that involve self sacrifice.
with Venus involved, it involves love,relationships. Of course, I aim for the positive stuff as best as I can.

the interpretations are from Robert Hand's book, HOROSCOPE SYMBOLS. Many of them were dead-on accurate for me.

as you see, I am much better off finding a woman that is spiritually oriented with positive moral,ethical values or else I will end up with a lot of suffering,misfortune,deception,confusion,illusion with women.

I don't smoke,drink,nor use drugs. I prefer women who are like me in that regard too.

I believe that Sedna is more otherworldly than Neptune because it is the most distant object in our solar system when it is at its most distant. It always orbits well beyond Pluto...so it's a transplutonian type of object. It's hypothesized to be an Oort cloud object. So you can say that Sedna is "out of this world", remote

I have Moon in Pisces in 6th sextile Sedna in Taurus in 8th - 1'04 , and it's in a yod with Pluto in Libra with 1st. Sedna is also in a yod with my 7th house ruler,Neptune..so a 12th harmonic isoceles trapezoid
Sedna semisquare Moon/Pluto - '05
Pluto oppose Moon/Sedna - 1'47
(This can indicate my attraction to women that are intense,ethereal)

I have Venus oppose Sedna/Midheaven - '07
(Venus,Sedna,Midheaven are in 9th harmonic triangle)
(this can indicate my love,relationships involve the ethereal....attracted to ethereal types of women)

I have Sedna square Venus/Eris - '05
(this can indicate love,relationships that are about diversity(interracial in my case)that are ethereal...also attracted to ethereal,divergent types)

I have Node conjunct Venus/Sedna - 1'27
(this can indicate my ethereal love connections,associations...my attractions to ethereal type of women)

I actually believe my Sedna aspects/midpoints have more to do with my attractions to ethereal types of women than Neptune does. Sedna orbits way beyond Neptune...to me it's out of this world.

I wouldn't be surprised that maybe some women who want that special man might have Sun-Sedna,Mars-Sedna aspects whether by regular aspect or midpoint. Also it could Sedna-Ascendant,Sedna-Venus,and Sedna-Node that could be involved with desire for that ethereal type of relationship. there could also be connections to other kuiper belt objects too.

my Moon is aspected to other kuiper belt objects which indicate my attraction to women that are spiritual,transformative,metaphysical
Moon trine Quaoar - '50
Moon trine Ixion - 2'15
Moon square Varuna - '10

My Venus is aspected to kuiper belt objects which can indicate my love nature,attraction involving spiritual,transformative,metaphysical women

Venus sextile Deucalion - '01
Venus quincunx Chaos - '17

I think my aspects/midpoints show more than my sign,house placements do. That's one of the reasons that I focus more on planetary geometry(aspects and midpoints). I also believe that the kuiper belt objects fill in the picture for me.

Raymond

posted December 12, 2008 12:13 PM         

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posted December 12, 2008 01:03 PM         

hell yeah!

my exgirlfriend has Moon conjunct Saturn in Scorpio conjunct Pluto in Libra. She has Moon conjunct Saturn/Pluto midpoint.

It was her Saturnian traits that attracted me the most. I found it wonderful that she was a sexually reserved type that didn't have sex until she was 20 and was with only 1 guy before me.

Her Moon-Saturn conjuncts my Sun,and my Moon trines that.

unfortunately, her Moon-Saturn-Pluto is in 7th house, and well....her mother's issues influence her relationships. Her mom hates men because my exgf's father screwed her over,and so she thinks that all men can't be trusted. She doesn't want both of her daughters being with men.

my exgf is very close to her mother and feels like she's the only one that can be there for her, and so pretty much her mom dictates her life and her relationships.

Her wanting to be there for her mom actually attracted me to her. It was her concerns about what her mom thinks about our relationship which really bothered me.

I hope that my exgf lives her own life completely and doesn't care what her mom thinks in regards to any man that she loves and wants to be with in the future.

maybe she will realize that when she has her first Saturn return in 2012.

the weirdest thing is that her first Saturn return is on the day of one of my Solar Returns. hahahaha

but yeah..Saturnian women can be very attractive,sexy to me.
I have Saturn square my Moon,contraparallel my Venus,and oppose/contraparallel my 7th house ruler Neptune.

Moon=Saturn/Neptune(t-square,midpoint picture)

therefore,my Saturn aspects my anima(the type of female that I am attracted to) planets and my relationship house ruler.

I am the most attracted to reserved types of women.

I agree with everything that you said about them. I am the same way too with my strong Saturn influence.

posted December 12, 2008 01:53 PM         

I don't have her birth time, but her Venus makes no hard aspects (except for a wide square to Mars). It sextiles Neptune and trines Pluto and is in Pisces. But I have a Pisces Venus, too, with much harsher aspects (exact squares to Saturn and Uranus, with Saturn, Uranus and Neptune in my 7th), and I lost my v-card (and have had steady sex since then) at a pretty average age.

posted December 12, 2008 02:06 PM         

I think her virginal character is very attractive.

btw...I forgot to mention that I have Juno in Virgo in 1st. that could indicate my wanting a committed relationship with prudish types. I have Virgo Ascendant.

posted December 12, 2008 11:31 PM         

Attitudes towards sex can change over time. Also, once bitten by the bug, it's hard to give up.

Who knows what the best combination is? Great sex with your best friend? Good sex with your companion? Mind-blowing sex with a wally?

Sex is an energy from sadistic rape to tantric spiritual enlightenment.

People can use sex to own you as well - so watch out for that one!!

It's better to aim at the higher end of the scale with someone who has a similar approach. It's no good making love to someone who says afterwards "Thanks mate. Wanna fag?" When you really want to hear "You are the most beautiful woman/man in the world".

Keep your virginity for as long as you can. You'll pleased you did

posted December 13, 2008 12:23 AM         

Just my own experience speaking though

And I can't imagine putting sex on this pedestal anymore and thinking of it as this super spiritual experience with a soulmate, not when every time I have it now, it feels just like that

posted December 13, 2008 06:00 AM         

What men say in front of friends and what they say one on one to a female friend is often a little different.